I just felt like talking, that's all.

DVS

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I just felt like talking.

This isn't a rant, or a troll, or anything like that. Not looking for condolences or sympathy. Not looking for "AT-A-BOY" statements of congrats, or anything. It isn't my way or intent. Like I said, I just felt like talking.

This is the time of year when everybody should be meeting with relatives and friends. Thanksgiving (for we Americans) and Christmas (for those who believe in Christ or just like giving and/or receiving goodies).

Oh, don't get me wrong. There are many other holidays to celebrate. And when it comes down to it, who really needs a holiday to get together with friends for fun?

OK, by now you may be wondering where I'm going with this thread. Well, it's like this. I really don't know. You see, as I said above, I just felt like writing.

Talking can take several forms, really. You can write on paper, or on a computer screen, as I am now. You can also write on the side of a train car, if you want your message to get around.

You can write stories about various things, and get them posted. One such place is here, of course.

WRITER'S DISCLAIMER: read my stories...read my stores

It seems different topics are more interesting than others, depending on if you like kinky, sentimental, humor, etc.

You can strike up a conversation with a stranger, but that isn't as easy as it once was. In today's times, you can be thrown in jail for such things. So, pick your conversations wisely.

But, talking is something we all need to do. In the old days, the stoic personality was the norm. And, we had our share of warped minds because of it. It was the strong thing to do, keeping your feelings inside.

But, it seems we all want to be noticed. It is a form of power, really. Small and insignificant as we may be, we like to know people like us for who we are. And, as I said above, this is the time of year when some people tend to feel down about themselves.

There are various reasons for this, but one of the main reasons is seeing others getting together for fun, and you not feeling that way. Feeling left out, not having a mate to share the times, or maybe recently losing a mate is the reason.

I could go on and on for the reasons for the gloom, but suffice it to say it does happen, as strange as it may seem to some. Yes, it has happened to me, but that was a long time ago. More than 30 years ago, now. Waiting for the "old guy" jokes to subside...

I felt alone and unwanted, and didn't understand the reasons. I kept these feelings to myself, and that is not the way to handle it. If you do keep these feelings inside, they can fester and cause the mind to think bad thoughts of ending it all.

I never got that far, but I did see how easy it could have. It's troubling to find out someone did take it that far, when if we could have known, talking to someone about it would easily make the feelings go away.

The mind is pliable, for sure. Sometimes all it takes is a smile from a stranger to change you. Sometimes it could be a song that helps you remember good times.

However, because the mind is pliable, the same things could cause the opposite reaction. Melancholy thoughts can just as easily be brought to the surface. Triggers like these can be dangerous.

Like Thanksgiving and Christmas, other normally festive times can be difficult for some. So, I would suggest we all take the time to look around and see if there is someone out there who needs a friend.

It isn't always easy to be a friend. You may have friends or relatives, or maybe you know of a stranger who is alone at this time of year.

Understand, this someone will more than likely say they are "OK" or "perfectly fine" and in no need of assistance. And, also understand they may be perfectly fine.

It's difficult to tell if they are telling you the truth that they're "OK," or if they are just fine and wanting to be alone. It is perfectly healthy to want to be alone sometimes, too.

BDSMers are no different from anybody else. Although some may have had less than kinky lives. The presence of kinky thoughts with the absence of kinky participation can be a difficult combination. We all know that.

And, we have gays and lesbians here, too. God knows there are some here who have lived some tough times in this cruel vanilla jungle.

Share a little time with a friend. God gave us all a mouth and the gift of gab (some more so than others). Take the time to talk. You might find someone who feels like talking.
 
Agreed...

I know from past experience how this time of year can be hard on a person emotionaly. This time of year can be especially lonely for those who are single, or far from family. This time of year, when all the ads play up getting the perfect gift for that someone special in your life, remember that to someone that is far from home and family or has no one in their life to celebrate with will feel left out and alienated b y society, leading towards the seasonal blues. Often times,all that is needed to truly head off the blues that can hit this time of year is reaching out and making sure that those people have a place to go and be a part of a celebration, whether it is a simple dinner, or being included as a part of the christmas or yule morning festivities.

Just my two cents, from an ex-military guy who has had to spend time on post during the season.
 
Wipes away the tears

Humans are social animals. There is no getting away from that. It's why I enjoy Christmas -- a time to stop, enjoy time with your friends and your family for no other reason than it's a good thing to do!

Some people make choices in their lives where they drive away friends and family. At Christmas, when everyone stops to celebrate their social relationships, it becomes plain how little they have of what really matters -- love. And that's really the reason there are so many suicides around Christmas. That dreadful realisation that you are alone.

So it's great to realise that there are people here who recognise the community and friendships that we have formed together. And the friendships. Christmas is the time when we celebrate those!

Many people who are not Christians (myself included) tend to look down on the celebration because of the Christian trappings. But Christmas is far far older than Christ, or even the Hebrews from which the religion of Christ has evolved. In fact, Winter solstice, seeing in the new year at the turn of the coldest season, is probably the one oldest and most prevalent celebration for humankind.

The origins of Christmas are also interesting. Christmas itself is not actually a "Christian" celebration per se (the birth of Christ is apparently some time in September.) And few of the trappings are Christian either.

The tree, for example, that we wrap with decorations -- well, let's just say that there was a time when those decorations were human intestines! It's a celebration of the restoration of life, the promise that the worst of the season of death is over, and from here, we advance into another year where life is renewed in Spring.

So we celebrate life, and our loves; our relationships, the bonds we have chosen and those we have not, the people who mean most and the time we take to spend with them.
 
Beautiful post DVS. It is strange how Christmas is the time of year which brings out all the best and worst emotions in most of us. For me this year it is going to have it's own bittersweetness as I am with Master and have my son here, but I am apart from my daughter, granddaughter, and elderly parents with whom I have always shared Christmas day and dinner, and the past few years it has been me who has taken the responsibility of organising everything and doing the cooking...so we are all missing each other for a multitude of reasons, while being happy for the happiness each of us has found in the past year, and the hurdles we have overcome.

Our family Christmas has always had a rule though that if anyone knew of someone who was going to be alone, they were to invite them to join us at the dinner table. Was made by my mother after she was widowed from her first marriage and left with 2 small children, only to find when Christmas came no-one thought of her being alone in her grief and loneliness. She has made it her mission to make sure she opened her door to anyone else feeling alone at that time of year for whatever reason. We are now carrying on that policy on the other side of the earth. It is true, just smiling, showing you care, and saying hello to someone can often make the world of difference without you ever realising.

Catalina :rose:
 
That is a very nice post.

Please be kind to the retailers you buy things from, too. I'm not really being self serving here, Christmas was never my own holiday and I always try to work the day before later on, so others can get home....

Retailers are kept from their families and loved ones and they are the real Santa and elves out there, often with no hope of being home for the holidays, yet being immersed in the holidays every day from Thanksgiving to Christmas. It can be very depressing, as well as stressful, and a little patience from a customer goes a long way.
 
Hugs for 'Zach

I've often the same problem. The Christmas period is a good time for overhauling many business computer systems, since everyone is away. Even worse, the operational systems tend to get overloaded during the Christmas period! So I have often ended up working through Christmas.

Thankfully not this year though. Yay!
 
FungiUg said:
Hugs for 'Zach

I've often the same problem. The Christmas period is a good time for overhauling many business computer systems, since everyone is away. Even worse, the operational systems tend to get overloaded during the Christmas period! So I have often ended up working through Christmas.

Thankfully not this year though. Yay!

Can identify with that...spent years working Christmas day/night. The worst were the years when my shift crossed over both mealtimes and so we had to adjust the timetable at home so I didn't miss out too much on all the celebrations...and if I were real lucky there were floods as well to wade through just to get in and out of work!!

Catalina :rose:
 
Thank you, DVS, for sharing your thoughts.

I am sincerely glad to see you posting again.

:rose:

I think that this time of year brings many things, bitter and sweet to mind and it also reminds us to reach out to others.

It is too bad, that that feeling doesn't stay with us all year long.
 
Grinch

This won't be very popular. If you don't care for my opinion please move on, and please don't flame me. Like DVS, I'm just venting, I suppose, and not looking for a pat on the back, or pity, or whatever. It just is what it is.

I hate Christmas. Since my divorce 3 years ago, and the breakup of my family, Christmas pretty much sucks. My 8 year old lives with her Dad 10,000 miles away (no kidding) in Alaska, and, due to circumstances out of my control, can't make the trip here to spend time with me. Christmas, to me, used to mean her, and presents, and family things.

Now it means work. Nurses work holidays. I used to hate that, back in the day....but not any more. This year, I happily asked to work both Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, just to keep me busy, and to allow someone with kids to spend time at home. I get sick of all the commercialization, and one more Christmas song on the radio is about to put me over the edge. I confess, that I find little happiness, much less "joy" in the whole season. I don't WANT to spend the day with anyone at table...I just want to hide out and let it pass me by.

Uggg. Call me a grinch, but I'm looking forward to the New Year.

~anelize
 
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Originally posted by AnelizeDarkEyes I hate Christmas. Since my divorce 3 years ago, and the breakup of my family, Christmas pretty much sucks.

Uggg. Call me a grinch, but I'm looking forward to the New Year.

~anelize
Well, I won't call you a grinch, because I understand what you mean. To use a well worn phrase...been there, done that. Not to the extent you have, but I have hated the commercializing of Christmas for years.

I lost my job a couple years ago. It was a very good paying job. I was out of work for about 2 years, and now have taken a piece of shit job, just because I need health insurance. Thanks to the economy after 9-11, I took a $37,000 per year pay cut.

To top that off, I had to work Thanksgiving, and will have to work Christmas and New Years. No, don't pity me. I took the job, and I am single so working these days isn't as traumatic as it would be for a married person with kids.

And, it was the luck of the schedule. I don't have Thursdays off, and all of these holidays are on Thursday, this year.

This thread is for anyone who wants to vent about the crap of Christmas present, or maybe speak of good times past. People don't stop to listen to others, because they are too involved in their own rushed lives.

Some may call this sappy or not very macho for a Dom, but I consider myself a complex individual, able to do it all. Shit, I can shoot the bull with a room full of vanilla relatives by day, and fuck a sweet little naked vixen in the ass, by night (not to mention having her bound and gagged).

So, think of this as just a warm family room, with the lights down low. Most of the light is from a glowing fireplace and we are all sitting around, talking and drinking fancy drinks. Did somebody bring the marshmallows?
 
Yeah, Christmas has wound up being a season of guilt for me. I mean, I'm not Christian and neither is my family, so the only way we've ever celebrated Christmas has been to get together and exchange gifts.

Except ever since I moved away from the town where I grew up (which was already a day's drive from the town where my extended family lived) it has been hard for me to visit my family over the holidays. And they won't accept it. (Neither will they pay for my plane tickets, though!) Also, they all send out their Christmas wish-lists in November, as a convenience to the rest of us, and there's never anything on them that I can afford to give.

So I'm the stay-at-home, selfish family member who is too anti-social to put some effort into the holiday (which isn't one that we celebrate religiously in the first place!). I hear about it every year, and never in a nice way.

But I swear -- I do like Christmas. I especially like Christmas carols. And the Messiah. And the smells.

Anyone wanna grab some wassail and head out for some singing on the town?
 
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DVS said:
I was out of work for about 2 years, and now have taken a piece of shit job, just because I need health insurance. Thanks to the economy after 9-11, I took a $37,000 per year pay cut.
Heh -- and here I just quit my day job (crappy, but at least it offered health insurance) for a lower-paying one (Can I leave on $300 a month? Maybe if my roommate swears never to leave me...) that is closer to how I actually want to spend my life.
 
johnny, i think i agree...

I'm not even christian, i still usually exchange yule gifts with friends and family, i enjoy putting up a tree....as everyone knows, or should know, the fir was a symbol in pagan yule festivities long before xtian ones...so it is one tradition i happily still celebrate...
but I am so sick of the commercialism of it all...people trying to shove tinsel and cheap gifts down your throat everywhere you look. I like xmas carols, but i can only hear just so many versions of o holy night sung by washed out pop stars or cartoon characters before i start getting upset...and it pisses me off that people think cause they are nicer around christmas that makes up for treating everyone else like crap for the entire year...
 
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DVS said:
This thread is for anyone who wants to vent about the crap of Christmas present, or maybe speak of good times past. People don't stop to listen to others, because they are too involved in their own rushed lives.


Ooops!

Well, even though I love the Christmas season, I have a few vents.

I hate shopping.
I hate the marketing that goes on at Christmas. It feels like everyone wants my money. Oh, they do.
I hate how rude people are when they are shopping, even though are doing wonderful "feel good" things. How charitable is a gift you bought for someone if you pushed over the lady with the walker to get in the check out line?

:D

No, I don't enjoy the commercialism of Christmas and I do agree that people should be good to one another all year long.

I try.
 
Netzach said:
That is a very nice post.

Please be kind to the retailers you buy things from, too. I'm not really being self serving here, Christmas was never my own holiday and I always try to work the day before later on, so others can get home....

Retailers are kept from their families and loved ones and they are the real Santa and elves out there, often with no hope of being home for the holidays, yet being immersed in the holidays every day from Thanksgiving to Christmas. It can be very depressing, as well as stressful, and a little patience from a customer goes a long way.


Unforunately, many people won't take your advice. I worked Thanskgiving this year. I got off in time that I could join my family for a late supper but... still, I could have been helping to cook, playing cards and enjoying myself instead of getting sore feet and snapping ugly gold braclets on hairy wrists. Not that I mind, I made overtime. I need it.

But there was one incident that day which made me angry. It was first come, first served but if enough people lined up, we would lose track of who was first and had to rely on the customers to say, yes she was here first. One lady got snide and nasty with me because I knew she wasn't first and she wanted service, NOW GODDAMMIT. I told her she'd just have to wait. Luckily, my co-worker finished with her customer first and I didn't have to deal with the hag. But I overheard her say to my single mother co-worker, "It's such a shame stores are open on holidays. It must suck not being able to be with your family." I thought Carrie would strangle or hit the woman. Obviously the woman didn't realize her very being there was part of the problem.

Note to you guys: Forget saving ten dollars on a dvd player. Stay home on the holidays. If people didn't buy stuff and stores couldn't make money staying open on Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years... They'd CLOSE.


also, the drivers this time of year are real assholes. No one practices patience anyhow but add to it snowy, or rainy roads, andthe holiday rush and you get one bad traffic jam and lots of road rage. IT ISN'T WORTH IT. drive a reasonable distance from others, use your turn signals, slow down and stop at yellow lights, don't sit in the middle of the intersection, just stop being a jerk.
 
so do all the scrooges get a visit from the ghost of christmas past? Cause, really, i don't have a place in my overly hectic schedule for ghostly encounters right now...maybe around arbor day...
 
I am actually pleasantly surprised at the reduction in commercialism of Christmas here compared to home. My daughter was telling me how Oz started the Christmas push in the shops around August as usual. In The Netherlands they celebrate St Nicholas Day (5-6th Dec) in the Christmas tradition we are more accustomed to in the US, UK, and Oz, but the shops though they stock chocolates and decorations, it is not on the scale of Oz, nor for near as long. Christmas is celebrated, but for many it is the traditional message more so than the commercial one and once again is not prepared for months in advance with shops full of pushy shoppers, gifts, decorations, and carols. Maybe it is because the country is always having a celebration for something....never seen a place that likes to party so much with village fairs being a regular feature throughout the year.

Catalina :rose:
 
NZ is at a fairly similar level to Oz in terms of commercialism. But to be honest, I've been rather distracted this year with moving house, breaking up with our submissive, my sisters turning up, and my lover's health issues... so I haven't really noticed much.

Will have to do some Christmas shopping next week, but that will be after I have moved into our new house!
 
Johnny Mayberry said:
I just hate everybody. How's that for a general rant?
Sounds good to me. It sure makes the shopping list shorter!
 
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MissTaken said:
Well, even though I love the Christmas season, I have a few vents.

I hate shopping.
I hate any form of shopping, any time of year. It must stem from my dislike of spending money I don't have. And, I wish I could just have the gifts materialize and wrap themselves. I just like the Christmas morning feeling of watching someone open presents.
MissTaken said:
I hate the marketing that goes on at Christmas. It feels like everyone wants my money. Oh, they do.
I don't want your money... you know what I want :)
MissTaken said:
I hate how rude people are when they are shopping, even though are doing wonderful "feel good" things. How charitable is a gift you bought for someone if you pushed over the lady with the walker to get in the check out line?
I think people are this way all year long. We just notice it more this time of year because stores are jammed with the idiots.
MissTaken said:
:D

No, I don't enjoy the commercialism of Christmas and I do agree that people should be good to one another all year long.

I try.
Well, if you really want to try... hint hint :) proove it! Bend over and lube that sweet ass of yours. Santa is coming down the chimney!
 
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NemoAlia said:
Yeah, Christmas has wound up being a season of guilt for me. I mean, I'm not Christian and neither is my family, so the only way we've ever celebrated Christmas has been to get together and exchange gifts...

So I'm the stay-at-home, selfish family member who is too anti-social to put some effort into the holiday (which isn't one that we celebrate religiously in the first place!). I hear about it every year, and never in a nice way.

But I swear -- I do like Christmas. I especially like Christmas carols. And the Messiah. And the smells.

Anyone wanna grab some wassail and head out for some singing on the town?
Christmas has religious overtones, but I think a lot of people (Christians, too) just like the holiday aspect of it all. Family get-togethers, dinners with good food, and PRESENTS, PRESENTS, PRESENTS!

And, because I am a musician, I love the carols, too. I am a harmony freak. I love the counterpoint in the chords. Some Christmas songs are so pretty, it's a real pitty we only hear them once a year.

P.S.
You should be FLOGGED for quiting your job. Get your ass over here...NOW! You think Santa's suit is red? Just you wait!
 
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Interesting thread.

Guess I'll post my .02 worth. Can't sleep, might as well post. *shrug*

I'm a Christian (yeah, I know...then what am I doing on Lit? lol) and I don't like Christmas.

The only thing I can think of as to why I don't is because my step-father, who helped raise me from the age of 9, died when I was 17. He passed away on Dec. 13. Never really have been all that up for Christmas ever since.

As for the celebrating of Christmas as a religious holiday, we don't. We ("we" being hubby and I. If you are familiar with the churches of Christ, that's "us".) were raised with the belief that "no one knows for sure when Jesus was born; we aren't told in the Bible to celebrate His birth, but his death and ressurection", etc. Actually, the churches of Christ don't celebrate anything as a "religious" holiday. Even Easter. Well, moreso than Christmas, but we don't get elaborate or anything. So, Christmas has never been a religious thing for me. More of a "family and friends" type of thing. Food, presents and Santa Claus.

And, for the record, I am sick of the extent that the Commercialization of Christmas has gone to.

ANYway...this is what happens when I can't sleep at night. I get weird and make strange posts. lol Wish I wasn't out of Ambien...I need to get some sleep!!
 
DVS said:
Christmas has religious overtones, but I think a lot of people (Christians, too) just like the holiday aspect of it all. Family get-togethers, dinners with good food, and PRESENTS, PRESENTS, PRESENTS!

And, because I am a musician, I love the carols, too. I am a harmony freak. I love the counterpoint in the chords. Some Christmas songs are so pretty, it's a real pitty we only hear them once a year.

P.S.
You should be FLOGGED for quiting your job. Get your ass over here...NOW! You think Santa's suit is red? Just you wait!

I'm not a musician and can't carry a tune in the proverbial bucket, but I love Christmas songs.

By the way, DVS...hello. I've bookmarked your Lit stories for later reading.
 
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