i hope the DOJ is paying attention... i'm sure they're way ahead on this, though

[butters]

not like anyone with a brain can't see this plays into his thinking:

Trump has "spoken about how when you are the President of the United States, it is tough for politically motivated prosecutors to 'get to you,'" one of the sources told Rolling Stone.

"He says when [not if] he is president again, a new Republican administration will put a stop to the [Justice Department] investigation that he views as the Biden administration working to hit him with criminal charges — or even put him and his people in prison," a source told the publication.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...pc=U531&cvid=246794fb8db5403191ffecc0f5d20aae

 

[KeithD]

I don't doubt that if Trump can spin all of this out until/if a Republican administration takes over again he can escape prison. Both he and the Republicans are showing to be rotten people on this issue and the current DOJ is belying the "no one is above the law" concept even under the Democrats. Where I think Trump is off the rails on this, though, is that he doesn't have to be president himself to extend this coverup. He only needs a Republican administration, which is more likely to happen than him becoming president again. I think his best move now is to work to get all Republicans elected and an electable candidate for president and not try to go for it himself.

 

[iso36]

I don't doubt that if Trump can spin all of this out until/if a Republican administration takes over again he can escape prison. Both he and the Republicans are showing to be rotten people on this issue and the current DOJ is belying the "no one is above the law" concept even under the Democrats. Where I think Trump is off the rails on this, though, is that he doesn't have to be president himself to extend this coverup. He only needs a Republican administration, which is more likely to happen than him becoming president again. I think his best move now is to work to get all Republicans elected and an electable candidate for president and not try to go for it himself.

You're right, this is just going to result in Democrats turning on their own people.

They already are; just look at Biden's numbers. 64% of his own party want him replaced.

 

[butters]

I don't doubt that if Trump can spin all of this out until/if a Republican administration takes over again he can escape prison. Both he and the Republicans are showing to be rotten people on this issue and the current DOJ is belying the "no one is above the law" concept even under the Democrats. Where I think Trump is off the rails on this, though, is that he doesn't have to be president himself to extend this coverup. He only needs a Republican administration, which is more likely to happen than him becoming president again. I think his best move now is to work to get all Republicans elected and an electable candidate for president and not try to go for it himself.

but will his ego allow him to sit back as another assumes his 'kingship'?

i think he's trying to drag it out till mid-term results are in, to see how he stands as likely to be elected 2024. Again, his ego can't handle him being seen as a loser and so there's an internal war going on in his id.

the thing that might push him into early declaration of an intent to run might be a surge in desantis' numbers... it might just piss him off enough to declare before mid-terms.

 

[butters]

You're right, this is just going to result in Democrats turning on their own people.

They already are; just look at Biden's numbers. 64% of his own party want him replaced.

Biden always stated pre his election that he was more of an interim president and was really intending to serve only 1 term. People accepted this and it's only talk of him potentially running again in '24 that has dems looking for other options. The only thing new here is his considering a run IF trump declares

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Things have been quiet at the DOJ ever since Merrick Garland retired.

 

[Rightguide]

The bottom line is the politicization of DOJ, and the FBI, with instructions to forget crime writ large and only pursue the enemies of the Democrat Party is what will lead to the eventual demise of the Democrat Party in the national power structure and the thorough house cleaning that will sweep both of those agencies in the coming years.

 

[iso36]

Biden always stated pre his election that he was more of an interim president and was really intending to serve only 1 term. People accepted this and it's only talk of him potentially running again in '24 that has dems looking for other options. The only thing new here is his considering a run IF trump declares

I believe he denied that when it was floated. You must be mistaken.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...-refutes-speculation-one-term-pledge-n1099766

 

[coati]

but will his ego allow him to sit back as another assumes his 'kingship'?

i think he's trying to drag it out till mid-term results are in, to see how he stands as likely to be elected 2024. Again, his ego can't handle him being seen as a loser and so there's an internal war going on in his id.

the thing that might push him into early declaration of an intent to run might be a surge in desantis' numbers... it might just piss him off enough to declare before mid-terms.

Guess what has once again penetrated his id and has actually been there since he was a pimply-faced bully in boarding school?

LOSER!

 

[KeithD]

They already are; just look at Biden's numbers. 64% of his own party want him replaced.

With no discounting from what Biden has managed to do against opposition, even within his own party, to bring us back from the brink of the Trump regime and coup attempt, a high percentage of Democrats never saw Biden's term to go beyond one in the first place. I've never supported a second term for him and that's not based on any failure of his to perform to expectations. He's simply too old. But he was the best answer to the situation at the moment.

 

[KeithD]

I believe he denied that when it was floated. You must be mistaken.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...-refutes-speculation-one-term-pledge-n1099766

Whatever Biden thought of his own term limits, he can't say he won't run again as long as he's trying to shove through legislation against all odds (which are not of his making). That said, I think it's time for him to start looking around for the strongest younger horse to back before the 2024 party presidential primaries.

 

[iso36]

If two thirds of Democrats don't support their own President, why would anyone vote Democrat?

 

[KeithD]

but will his ego allow him to sit back as another assumes his 'kingship'?

I think underneath all of his bluster that almost his entire effort has been to just stay out of prison, not to preserve his "kingship." I think the whole stay-in-power coup attempt is meant to keep him in a position not to be prosecuted.

I think the DOJ needs to get off its butt and indict him. It seems there are multiple investigations just hoping someone else will do the first indicting.

 

[KeithD]

If two thirds of Democrats don't support their own President, why would anyone vote Democrat?

Biden isn't all Democrats. And it's not an issue of not supporting him as a person. It's a matter of maneuvering to get the best possible fit at the time. And he was the best possible fit for the Democrats in 2000--and he won. Democrats will vote Democratic for the same reason the Republicans will vote Republican even if they have to hold their noses for being associated with Trump and his despicable Trumpers. Power comes from holding offices up and down the line. It isn't just individual people you are voting for/against.

And if you're dumb enough to only be looking at the price of gas on election day, you're too dumb to be given a vote to begin with.

 

[iso36]

I think underneath all of his bluster that almost his entire effort has been to just stay out of prison, not to preserve his "kingship." I think the whole stay-in-power coup attempt is meant to keep him in a position not to be prosecuted.

I think the DOJ needs to get off its butt and indict him. It seems there are multiple investigations just hoping someone else will do the first indicting.

I'm not sure what the charges would be, are you?

Maybe trying to game the Electoral College, a vaguely worded political oddity nobody agrees on and has never been litigated?

Assault on a wall with a deadly plate?

Backseat driving?

When would this trial happen? If not before Midterms, then when?

Because the situation has never been litigated, won't it wind up in the SCOTUS anyway?

 

[KeithD]

I'm not sure what the charges would be, are you?

Good God, there has been a mountain of criminal offenses by Donald Trump in multiple dimensions played out right in the open for decades. I'm not going to play the silly "but what has he done?" see-no-evil game.

And I don't give a shit about any messy political issues in prosecuting him. He is threatening to destroy the United States. He has to be stopped and prosecuted. This needs to be turned around. The Republicans aren't going to do it, so the rest of us have to no matter how messy it gets.

 

[iso36]

Good God, there has been a mountain of criminal offenses by Donald Trump in multiple dimensions played out right in the open for decades. I'm not going to play the silly "but what has he done?" see-no-evil game.

Oh, I thought the January 6 thing was about January 6. Maybe you're confused.

What did Trump do on January 6 that was a criminal offence?

Maybe you're just venting and like most of us in realizing he's probably going to walk and use the free publicity plus his $250 Million PAC money to run and likely win again?

 

[KeithD]

Oh, I thought the January 6 thing was about January 6. Maybe you're confused.

What did Trump do on January 6 that was a criminal offence?

Maybe you're just venting and like most of us in realizing he's probably going to walk and use the free publicity plus his $250 Million PAC money to run and likely win again?

Oh, I see, you're just another obfuscating Trumpette whore.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[jaF0]

Old is less relevant than capable.

 

[iso36]

Oh, I see, you're just another obfuscating Trumpette whore.

Who do you think you're fooling?

I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me names. Thanks.

Am I wrong? Or are you ?

The J6 Committee is only about the J6 mess, right?

 

[Rightguide]

Good God, there has been a mountain of criminal offenses by Donald Trump in multiple dimensions played out right in the open for decades. I'm not going to play the silly "but what has he done?" see-no-evil game.

And I don't give a shit about any messy political issues in prosecuting him. He is threatening to destroy the United States. He has to be stopped and prosecuted. This needs to be turned around. The Republicans aren't going to do it, so the rest of us have to no matter how messy it gets.

Name them with specificity.

 

[KeithD]

I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me names. Thanks.

Am I wrong? Or are you ?

The J6 Committee is only about the J6 mess, right?

As I noted, you are just a Trumpette whore and I'm not playing your silly see-no-evil distracting attempt games. It's ignore for you.

 

[iso36]

Name them with specificity.

We both know the truth. He can't because it's never happened.

As I noted, you are just a Trumpette whore and I'm not playing your silly see-no-evil distracting attempt games. It's ignore for you.

CNN ran a whole series of adds about how "Facts Matter". Are you old enough to post here?

 

[phrodeau]

Oh, I thought the January 6 thing was about January 6. Maybe you're confused.

What did Trump do on January 6 that was a criminal offence?

Maybe you're just venting and like most of us in realizing he's probably going to walk and use the free publicity plus his $250 Million PAC money to run and likely win again?

Dereliction of duty. Trump vacated his post.

 

[iso36]

Dereliction of duty. Trump vacated his post.

Funny, I thought he was in Washington DC that day speaking at the "Stop the Steal" rally.