Ok I'm married strate and out of the gay loop for many years (grew up in the bay aria, miss it). Here is the question, my wife and I have been watching some lesbian films/TV shows and we were wondering if what we are watching is realistic? The L word, and Kissing Jessica Styhn, are these realistic representations of lesbian life? Hope I'm not afending anyone by my ignorence. Thanks for your help.
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I have no idea how lesbian life is like in LA or wherever. But The L Word is a drama, ergo things are dramatized. Kissing Jessica Stein is, as far as I'm concerned, just another romantic comedy spewing platitudes and oversimplified "wisdoms". I'm afraid that the only way to get a realistic view of lesbian life is to live it or observe the real thing.
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Yes, I read your sig, but there's got to be a way for you to spell check it with one hand. Or let your hand take a break. Please!sapos said:did you not read my sig.? Anyway thanks for the feedback
And I agree with Bisexplicit. All Lesbians are Lip-stick lesbians.
this brings something to mind I failed to mention. I was mostly refuring to the end were they where best friends. As a guy I find that hard to beleave that a couple that went through so much together could end up friends like that without a lot of hurt fealings/jelisy.BitterIchor said:
Man my spelling is bad got to do something about that tonight.
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It's a mainstream movie, they had to "rise above it" and become friends to produce a happy ending. The moviegoers around the world wouldn't stand for anything else.sapos said:
But you're right, from a more realistic viewpoint, it would probably not be that easy. I imagine things would be awkward at best.
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On the other hand, a lot of lesbians I know are good friends with their exes. It's more a stereotype than a truism, but it does often seem to be the case.
I'd say "The L Word" no more accurately depicts the lives of ordinary lesbians than "The OC" or whatever the contemporary equivalent of "Melrose Place" is accurately depicts the lives of ordinary straight people.
I'd say "The L Word" no more accurately depicts the lives of ordinary lesbians than "The OC" or whatever the contemporary equivalent of "Melrose Place" is accurately depicts the lives of ordinary straight people.
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Hmm. I would say that these shows and movies (and others
like Two Girls in Love and High Art) depict potential
realities of lesbian life, but I would not say they are the
norm. The main problem I have with The
L Word is the homogeneity on that show - everybody is
beautiful, and more importantly everybody can afford nice
clothes and such. But sure, some lesbians live like that.
As for Kissing Jessica Stein, I haven't seen that movie in
a while, but as I recall it was not terribly realistic. I
might be wrong but I seem to remember it being overly
cliched. But I'm a Cheerleader is pretty cliched too but
it's probably accurate in terms of teenage lesbian puppy
love.
As for spelling, I am a stickler too but not enough to make
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like Two Girls in Love and High Art) depict potential
realities of lesbian life, but I would not say they are the
norm. The main problem I have with The
L Word is the homogeneity on that show - everybody is
beautiful, and more importantly everybody can afford nice
clothes and such. But sure, some lesbians live like that.
As for Kissing Jessica Stein, I haven't seen that movie in
a while, but as I recall it was not terribly realistic. I
might be wrong but I seem to remember it being overly
cliched. But I'm a Cheerleader is pretty cliched too but
it's probably accurate in terms of teenage lesbian puppy
love.
As for spelling, I am a stickler too but not enough to make
such a big deal of it. Instead I'll just point you in the
direction of IEspell
which is a spell-check for IE. If you are a Netscape or
Firefox user, there are spell check extensions
for that too.
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sapos said:
Keep in mind that many gays and lesbians live in relatively small social circles; they just may not know many others, and so there is sometimes a tendency (less now than there used to be) for friends to become lovers, lovers friends, and so on, in part because of those smaller social circles.
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Let me add my few cents. I think any form of media that works with stereo types run the risk of not being "real". Now i guess that sounds a little confusing, but think about it for a sec. There are very specific terms out there for being who we are - lesbian, bi or straight etc. But we all know that within that structure, there is room for so much - is it exclusively, or pottentially for example. I have a moral issues with labeling and boxing people - it is so incredibly limiting. And that is the case for most stereotypes. if we look at the characters in the L word (dont get me wrong i love the show...) they are so stereotypical. And i think we have a long way to go before we are able to capture what really happens between two gay people.
I'm not saying that some people do not act according to a specific type. But when the media plays so perfectly into what we already except to see of a particular "type" of person, does that not add to the plasticness of it all?
Kissing Jessica Stein was a sweet movie. We've come a long way since a few years back where there was just no lesbian movies out there. The jessica Stein scenario happens in real life. Just have a look at how many people have written about their first gay expriences being with a friend or bicurious stranger. So yes, i guess it is typical.
I would like to see a show where they depict the realities of having to deal with life as a lesbian/ bi person/ gay in modern society. How did the characters discover they were not straight? How did they deal with it? How are they dealing with it 20 years along the line. And their family and friends? And ofcourse we will have to add a whole lot of sex to make it incredibly realistic, cause we all know lesbians have the best sex of all
I'm not saying that some people do not act according to a specific type. But when the media plays so perfectly into what we already except to see of a particular "type" of person, does that not add to the plasticness of it all?
Kissing Jessica Stein was a sweet movie. We've come a long way since a few years back where there was just no lesbian movies out there. The jessica Stein scenario happens in real life. Just have a look at how many people have written about their first gay expriences being with a friend or bicurious stranger. So yes, i guess it is typical.
I would like to see a show where they depict the realities of having to deal with life as a lesbian/ bi person/ gay in modern society. How did the characters discover they were not straight? How did they deal with it? How are they dealing with it 20 years along the line. And their family and friends? And ofcourse we will have to add a whole lot of sex to make it incredibly realistic, cause we all know lesbians have the best sex of all
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