I guess I'm politicaly incorrect, so sad

[SeaCat]

Too damned bad.

My wife and I went to a local Big Box Store today to do a bit of shopping. At either door was a box for Hurricane Ike supplies to be sent to the survivors. As I went in the door I noticed a woman come walking up to the box by the door, look around then grab several items from the box and carry them to the other box.

Curious I looked at the box and saw it read for the survivors in Texas. Glancing inside it I saw it was barely half full. Telling my wife to go on inside, I would meet her later as I headed for the other box. Maybe they were just consolidating things? When I looked at this box I saw it wasn't marked for the survivors in Texas, oh my no it was marked for the survivors in Haiti.

Okay so I know they need help in both places. I have no problem with people donating to whoever they want. On the other hand this woman was stealing from one box to fill the other. I was thinking about this as I went inside and joined my wife.

After we had finished our shopping we climbed into the car and got ready to leave. Still curious I pulled into a spot where I could see both boxes and just sat there watching.

People walking by the box marked for Texas were droping a lot of items in there. Very few people walking past the box for Haiti were dropping things in that box. On the other hand I watched as several people hanging around the Haiti Box would go over and grab things from the Texas Box and drop them in the Haiti Box. They kept doing this. Somehow I didn't think this was right and after thinking about it for a bit I went back inside to where I had seen a Deputy Sheriff. I told him what I had seen and where I was sitting. He told me he would call his boss and see what could be done.

Before I knew it there was a knock on my car window and here was a guy in Jeans flashing a badge. He sat in the back seat with a video camera and we watched as he taped for half an hour before climbing back out of the car while thanking us. He stood outside the car talking on his phone for a bit then started heading slowly towards the group around the box camera in hand. Just before he arrived there several cruisers showed up and I got to watch several people getting arrested. Through my now open window I could hear them protesting they were doing the right thing getting the donations from one box for the other. Their people deserved them while the Texans would be getting all the help they needed from the government.

So I'm politicaly incorrect but shit like this gets under my skin.

Cat

 

[rgraham666]

Sigh. Humans.

 

[Corylea]

You know, Sea Cat, you seem to be awake and aware all the time. Most people go through the bulk of their lives on automatic pilot, but it seems like you're really THERE all the time. You should set up as a guru or something, because it's a rare skill!

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Way to go, Cat. No doubt the folks in Haiti need help. But there are one helluva lot more people here in Texas who also need assistance.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[TE999]

<snip>I could hear them protesting they were doing the right thing getting the donations from one box for the other. Their people deserved them while the Texans would be getting all the help they needed from the government.

So I'm politicaly incorrect but shit like this gets under my skin.

Cat

Politically incorrect my foot, that's theft pure and simple.

If they're so concerned about the Hatian people, then contribute money or things of your own to the cause ; better still go there and give hands on help.

 

[glynndah]

Why not just have one box to be split up evenly? It seems a simple solution to me.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Georgie-boy told the American people not to succumb to disaster fatigue (tm)

And that sounds to me like we will be doiong what our tax moneys won't be doing.

 

[Liar]

Good story, cat. Interresting as always.

But...who claims you're politically incorrect?

I mean, other than you?

 

[SweetWitch]

Why not just have one box to be split up evenly? It seems a simple solution to me.

I'm about to become very unpopular here. I guess it's my farm-home upbringing, but I believe that charity begins at home. With billions of dollars of our money going over-seas for "humanitarian" aid, I think that people just want to take care of their own first.

Many people may have family and friends in Texas, maybe they come from Texas or have survived disasters themselves and have seen their friends and neighbors give all to help out.

It has nothing to do with political correctness. It's about doing with one's money what one wants to do. The recent natural disasters locally have left people high and dry here. Yes, there were places across the states in worse condition, and other countries were even worse than that, but my charity stayed here.

The last disaster, the earthquake that woke Illinois in the middle of the night last spring, broke my father's basement in half, literally. From the crack bubbled forth a spring that filled the basement. Five of his neighbors left their damaged barns and homes and came with sump pumps and anything else they could get their hands on. They pumped the water out, capped the spring and spent a lot of their own money to patch the mess up.

In turn, Dad grabbed hammer, nails and lumber to help them get things fixed up. There was no need for government intervention or low-interest loans or anything else other than neighbors and their own resources. It's what we do.

Haiti, though I'm sure is a deserving place, is not my neighbor. Texas is. If I wish to donate goods, money or time to Texas, no one has the right to tell me that I have to give half of it to Haiti. I don't know anyone there. They don't pay the taxes that educate my child, build my highways or feed social security.

Just to let you know, I have made a quite few donations to victims of many disasters outside this country, but I did it because I wanted to, not because I had to. The way I see it, the pecking order is my family and home first, neighbors next, then community, state, national and international. I take care of my own first. I cannot, in good conscience, give to strangers when my own family, my friends or my neighbors are is so much need.

 

[SeaCat]

Good story, cat. Interresting as always.

But...who claims you're politically incorrect?

I mean, other than you?

Just about anyone who's will and wishes I don't succumb to.

I am about as politicaly correct as a thrown rock at a political convention.

I have this strange attitude. I expect people to stand on their own feet. I refuse to accept the common belief that some people need help or commit crimes because of their skin color, sexual orientation or religion.

Yes some of these people are at a disadvantage because they aren't going to the best schools. There are many who were disadvantaged who would disagree with them. Strangely enough it is often only in America that this feeling is prevalent.

Oddly enough this feeling I have is not limited to certain groups, it is only limited by the person in questions willingness to work to get ahead legally. (Just ask my sister and her kids.)

Another of my politicaly incorrect views is the wish to abolish or adjust the Welfare System. (The Dole to you Brits.) It needs to be changed so people are only allowed on it for a short period of time unless there are honest and verifiable reasons. (These reasons would most likely have the person on Social Security.) I am brutal about this and I just don't care about the excuses.

Cat

 

[starrkers]

Why not just have one box to be split up evenly? It seems a simple solution to me.

Because then it wouldn't give folk the chance to discriminate, I guess

 

[DG Hear]

I'm about to become very unpopular here. I guess it's my farm-home upbringing, but I believe that charity begins at home. With billions of dollars of our money going over-seas for "humanitarian" aid, I think that people just want to take care of their own first.

Many people may have family and friends in Texas, maybe they come from Texas or have survived disasters themselves and have seen their friends and neighbors give all to help out.

It has nothing to do with political correctness. It's about doing with one's money what one wants to do. The recent natural disasters locally have left people high and dry here. Yes, there were places across the states in worse condition, and other countries were even worse than that, but my charity stayed here.

The last disaster, the earthquake that woke Illinois in the middle of the night last spring, broke my father's basement in half, literally. From the crack bubbled forth a spring that filled the basement. Five of his neighbors left their damaged barns and homes and came with sump pumps and anything else they could get their hands on. They pumped the water out, capped the spring and spent a lot of their own money to patch the mess up.

In turn, Dad grabbed hammer, nails and lumber to help them get things fixed up. There was no need for government intervention or low-interest loans or anything else other than neighbors and their own resources. It's what we do.

Haiti, though I'm sure is a deserving place, is not my neighbor. Texas is. If I wish to donate goods, money or time to Texas, no one has the right to tell me that I have to give half of it to Haiti. I don't know anyone there. They don't pay the taxes that educate my child, build my highways or feed social security.

Just to let you know, I have made a quite few donations to victims of many disasters outside this country, but I did it because I wanted to, not because I had to. The way I see it, the pecking order is my family and home first, neighbors next, then community, state, national and international. I take care of my own first. I cannot, in good conscience, give to strangers when my own family, my friends or my neighbors are is so much need.

You're not unpopular with me. I agree with you 100%

It's one of the things I always hated politically. If I donate money or goods, I want to decide who I want to give it too. If I don't want to donate at all, that 's also my choice. At least it use to be. I remember when churches and organizations got together and helped the less fortunate and those in need.

It was my choice who I gave or did not give to. I don't care what everyone else wants to donate to. They can give all they want or as little as they want. I just don't want others deciding for me where, when and how much I should be donating to the places of their choice.

I'm with ya Molly, one of my favorite witches.
DG

 

[Safe_Bet]

I'm about to become very unpopular here. I guess it's my farm-home upbringing, but I believe that charity begins at home. With billions of dollars of our money going over-seas for "humanitarian" aid, I think that people just want to take care of their own first.

Many people may have family and friends in Texas, maybe they come from Texas or have survived disasters themselves and have seen their friends and neighbors give all to help out.

It has nothing to do with political correctness. It's about doing with one's money what one wants to do. The recent natural disasters locally have left people high and dry here. Yes, there were places across the states in worse condition, and other countries were even worse than that, but my charity stayed here.

The last disaster, the earthquake that woke Illinois in the middle of the night last spring, broke my father's basement in half, literally. From the crack bubbled forth a spring that filled the basement. Five of his neighbors left their damaged barns and homes and came with sump pumps and anything else they could get their hands on. They pumped the water out, capped the spring and spent a lot of their own money to patch the mess up.

In turn, Dad grabbed hammer, nails and lumber to help them get things fixed up. There was no need for government intervention or low-interest loans or anything else other than neighbors and their own resources. It's what we do.

Haiti, though I'm sure is a deserving place, is not my neighbor. Texas is. If I wish to donate goods, money or time to Texas, no one has the right to tell me that I have to give half of it to Haiti. I don't know anyone there. They don't pay the taxes that educate my child, build my highways or feed social security.

Just to let you know, I have made a quite few donations to victims of many disasters outside this country, but I did it because I wanted to, not because I had to. The way I see it, the pecking order is my family and home first, neighbors next, then community, state, national and international. I take care of my own first. I cannot, in good conscience, give to strangers when my own family, my friends or my neighbors are is so much need.

Farm Girls RULE, Sister!

 

[starrkers]

True enough, Molly adn good point.

But the point here is people were deciding where they wanted their money to go, and other people were overriding that decision by moving goods between boxes.

 

[Liar]

I am about as politicaly correct as a thrown rock at a political convention.

I have this strange attitude. I expect people to stand on their own feet. I refuse to accept the common belief that some people need help or commit crimes because of their skin color, sexual orientation or religion.

Sounds pretty PC to me.

 

[Liar]

True enough, Molly adn good point.

But the point here is people were deciding where they wanted their money to go, and other people were overriding that decision by moving goods between boxes.

Agreed.

If they had put a guy in front of the boxes and tried to convince people to donate their stuff to Haiti, they'd be in the right to do so. They might have annoyes people, but they'd been imo morally in the clear.

They didn't. They stole stuff out of the Texas charity bin. What they then did with the loot, put it in the Haiti charity bin, is another issue. They still stole.

 

[SeaCat]

Sounds pretty PC to me.

Is it? Really?

According to many, including some here I should be hung by my thumbs, drawn and quartered, braised without marinating and served to those I would cut off from their sources of free money because they deserve it because of their race, gender or religious beliefs.

Like I said though I'm kind of used to this. I deal with it on a regular basis with my sister and her kids. According to them I am a worthless human being because I don't give them money on a regular basis. They look down on me because I work full time and they don't work at all. Their reasons? They are handicapped. (Yes they certainly are, they are incapable of doing a damned thing but watch TV, Sleep, eat, drink, do drugs and fuck. Then again why should they do more when they are paid to do just this?)

Cat

 

[SweetWitch]

True enough, Molly adn good point.

But the point here is people were deciding where they wanted their money to go, and other people were overriding that decision by moving goods between boxes.

That's what I'm talking about. If I want to give the Haiti, I'll put something in that box. I don't want someone taking what I spend my hard-earned dinero on and making that decision for me. It's my choice, not theirs. Let them spend how they see fit and leave my money alone.

Farm Girls RULE, Sister!

Nothing like growing up there, huh? How about sneaking out at 2 AM and going to that party in the woods? Remember how much trouble you got in when you weren't home in time to get in bed before the folks got up? Ouch.

Good times...

You're not unpopular with me. I agree with you 100%

It's one of the things I always hated politically. If I donate money or goods, I want to decide who I want to give it too. If I don't want to donate at all, that 's also my choice. At least it use to be. I remember when churches and organizations got together and helped the less fortunate and those in need.

It was my choice who I gave or did not give to. I don't care what everyone else wants to donate to. They can give all they want or as little as they want. I just don't want others deciding for me where, when and how much I should be donating to the places of their choice.

I'm with ya Molly, one of my favorite witches.
DG

Thanks, doll.

 

[DG Hear]

Is it? Really?

According to many, including some here I should be hung by my thumbs, drawn and quartered, braised without marinating and served to those I would cut off from their sources of free money because they deserve it because of their race, gender or religious beliefs.

Like I said though I'm kind of used to this. I deal with it on a regular basis with my sister and her kids. According to them I am a worthless human being because I don't give them money on a regular basis. They look down on me because I work full time and they don't work at all. Their reasons? They are handicapped. (Yes they certainly are, they are incapable of doing a damned thing but watch TV, Sleep, eat, drink, do drugs and fuck. Then again why should they do more when they are paid to do just this?)

Cat

I totally agree with you Cat! Once some people get on the free train, it's damn hard for them to try and motivate themselves to want to get off. I'm not saying some people can't use help, but there is a limit. At least in my book, which very few people seem to agree with.
DG

 

[SweetWitch]

Is it? Really?

According to many, including some here I should be hung by my thumbs, drawn and quartered, braised without marinating and served to those I would cut off from their sources of free money because they deserve it because of their race, gender or religious beliefs.

Like I said though I'm kind of used to this. I deal with it on a regular basis with my sister and her kids. According to them I am a worthless human being because I don't give them money on a regular basis. They look down on me because I work full time and they don't work at all. Their reasons? They are handicapped. (Yes they certainly are, they are incapable of doing a damned thing but watch TV, Sleep, eat, drink, do drugs and fuck. Then again why should they do more when they are paid to do just this?)

Cat

I don't call you anything but intelligent. There's a difference between being worthy and being worthless. Many seem to forget that at times.

 

[TE999]

Back in my working days, it used to piss me off mightily when an office goody-goody would come 'round every week begging for a new charity. "Oooo...if you don't give, we won't meet our quota," or get a plaque or an award or some such shit.

I give to who I want to, when I want to. Period.

 

[DG Hear]

Back in my working days, it used to piss me off mightily when an office goody-goody would come 'round every week begging for a new charity. "Oooo...if you don't give, we won't meet our quota," or get a plaque or an award or some such shit.

I give to who I want to, when I want to. Period.

Amen!!!

 

[Liar]

Is it? Really?

According to many, including some here I should be hung by my thumbs, drawn and quartered, braised without marinating and served to those I would cut off from their sources of free money because they deserve it because of their race, gender or religious beliefs.

Like I said though I'm kind of used to this. I deal with it on a regular basis with my sister and her kids. According to them I am a worthless human being because I don't give them money on a regular basis. They look down on me because I work full time and they don't work at all. Their reasons? They are handicapped. (Yes they certainly are, they are incapable of doing a damned thing but watch TV, Sleep, eat, drink, do drugs and fuck. Then again why should they do more when they are paid to do just this?)

Cat

Hmm.

I can see we're talking past each other here.

We have completely different views of thart the word means and encompasses. So never mind.

 

[Liar]

Back in my working days, it used to piss me off mightily when an office goody-goody would come 'round every week begging for a new charity. "Oooo...if you don't give, we won't meet our quota," or get a plaque or an award or some such shit.

The most annoying thing about that is that it begs the question "So you're not wanting me to help people in need, but to fill your quota? Are you sure you should be working with charity?"

 

[TE999]

The most annoying thing about that is that it begs the question "So you're not wanting me to help people in need, but to fill your quota? Are you sure you should be working with charity?"

Precisely. It's not the recipients of the donations that motivates most people like I described, it's the fact that they are so much into how they appear to others...selfless and giving...look at me... I care more than you do. Feh!