I finally get why Sorkin and Downey, Jr. are the way they are

Dixon Carter Lee

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I've never taken drugs, or been much of a drinker, and I've never even had a cigarette, so the whole "addiction" thing is something I've only ever truly understood intellectually.

For example, I could never figure out how people like Alan Sorkin and Robert Downey, Jr. and Kelsey Grammer could take drug after drug, despite jail, despite public disclosure, despite family intervention, and STILL manage to do great work. Even after re-hab, when the addiction is, apparently, "gone", they return to the drugs? Why?

I was discussing this with some friends at dinner the other night. One friend had actually shot a "Frasier" the day after Kelsey got out of re-hab, and said the man went right for the bottle, had liquor on his breath all day, was wired with energy, and never seemed "Drunk".

Same thing with Sorkin. According to someone I ain't gonna mention the network and the producers don't care about his addiction because the guy keeps turning out scripts, and they recognize that his dependence is why he's able to be productive.

I had several friends on "Ally" when Downey, Jr. did the show, and they never saw him act sloppy or high, but they knew he was.

I didn't get it. I sat there saying, "How the fuck do these people stay alive and successful?" I was rubbing my head at the time because I was having a headache. My friends asked me what was wrong, and I said that I had stopped drinking Diet Soda, and three days without caffeine was making my head hurt. I ordered an iced tea, took a sip, and immediatley felt "normal" again.

"That" my friend said, "is what addicts are trying to do. They're trying to get back to 'normal'."

You know, I knew that, but it didn't really hit hoime until that moment. All these guys are hitting the drugs and booze just to feel like you and I feel every day. It's not about getting blitzed anymore, they can't get blitzed anymore, it's just about getting rid of that stupid headache with a little chemical you've become dependent on.

Well, I'm still on caffeine, but just barely - I've weened myself pretty well. I can't imagine what someone hooked on heroin has to go through. Particularly a long time addict, like these guys, because even if you DO drop the addiction, you have spent so many years being "normal" on dope that you lose part of your personality with the sobriety. No wonder they go back.
 
One thing that pisses me off when they do drug education is that they never tell the kiddies why people do drugs in the first place. It makes the whole understanding of why to JUST SAY NO a moot point.

Hey kids, "drugs make you feel really good. REALLY good."






Side note--DCL, your location is now the title of Poison's new comeback album. Yeah, I'd change it.
 
CelestialBody said:
see a pattern here?

Part of the theory that if you want to discourage a behavior, it's not always the smartest idea to talk up what good points it may have, too. :rolleyes:
 
Marxist said:
Side note--DCL, your location is now the title of Poison's new comeback album. Yeah, I'd change it.

Yeah, well, let's see if they actually comeback first.
 
I know someone who buys coca cola in twelve packs. Drinks the first one for breakfast. That's one of the signs of an addiction, when you take your first one. When asked why, they say it's to keep the withdrawal headaches away.
I can understand that. I had to switch to decaffeinated coffe because of the withdrawal symptoms I was getting if I missed my regular coffe break.
 
here dragon, dragon... here dragon, dragon.:D
 
Myrrdin said:
I know someone who buys coca cola in twelve packs. Drinks the first one for breakfast. That's one of the signs of an addiction...

Yeah I did that, Diet Coke for breakfast. Still not off the caffeine completely (I drink Tea now and then), but my wife's very happy I'm off the aspartane (however it's spelled), damn chemicals.

Now I just have to get her off coffee.
 
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