I blame organized, monotheistic religion

BoyNextDoor

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"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
... and so the Muslims think it is OK to suicide bomb.

"Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "
... and so the so-called peaceful Muslims are second class citizens

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
... and so Muslims are compelled to be terrorists; beheaders; to be the agents of terror.


The only answer to what has happened from the World Trade Center towers to this massacre in Paris is secular humanism must displace organized, monotheistic religion.
 
The only answer to what has happened from the World Trade Center towers to this massacre in Paris is secular humanism must displace organized, monotheistic religion.

You should probably just stick with screwing other guys' wives behind their backs, wannabe.
 
http://secular-humanism.com/

Secular Humanism

- Exclusion Of God


Secular Humanism - Excluding God from Schools & Society
Secular Humanism is an attempt to function as a civilized society with the exclusion of God and His moral principles. During the last several decades, Humanists have been very successful in propagating their beliefs. Their primary approach is to target the youth through the public school system. Humanist Charles F. Potter writes, "Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American school is a school of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday school's meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?" (Charles F. Potter, "Humanism: A New Religion," 1930)

John J. Dunphy, in his award winning essay, The Humanist (1983), illustrates this strategic focus, "The battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: A religion of humanity -- utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to carry humanist values into wherever they teach. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new -- the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism."

more... http://secular-humanism.com/
 
Secular humanism is a comprehensive, nonreligious lifestance incorporating: A naturalistic philosophy. A cosmic outlook rooted in science. A consequentialist ethical system.
 
Secular humanism is a comprehensive, nonreligious lifestance incorporating: A naturalistic philosophy. A cosmic outlook rooted in science. A consequentialist ethical system.

Sounds positively dreamy. And exactly how do you propose for it to "displace" the "organized monotheistic" religion of Islam?

The stupidity of the notion is hilarious in the extreme.
 
Respectfully I believe your assumption that religion is the root of violent fanaticism is flawed. Unless you're leaving Russia and China out of the equation.
 
Sounds positively dreamy. And exactly how do you propose for it to "displace" the "organized monotheistic" religion of Islam?

The stupidity of the notion is hilarious in the extreme.

Obviously through force of arms, those who believe in either a Christian Monotheistic Deity or an Islamic Monotheistic Deity or even the teachings of the Bhudda must be killed without mercy in order to create the desirable peaceful secular humanist state.
 
Sounds positively dreamy. And exactly how do you propose for it to "displace" the "organized monotheistic" religion of Islam?

The stupidity of the notion is hilarious in the extreme.

Respectfully I believe your assumption that religion is the root of violent fanaticism is flawed. Unless you're leaving Russia and China out of the equation.

Obviously through force of arms, those who believe in either a Christian Monotheistic Deity or an Islamic Monotheistic Deity or even the teachings of the Bhudda must be killed without mercy in order to create the desirable peaceful secular humanist state.

The answer to displacing religion is simplicity itself - stop lying to children that there is omnipotent and omniscient entity. And those to whom the lie has been told, start telling them the truth.

PS - Christianity is not monotheistic as far as I can tell, but it needs to go too.
 
The answer to displacing religion is simplicity itself - stop lying to children that there is omnipotent and omniscient entity. And those to whom the lie has been told, start telling them the truth.

PS - Christianity is not monotheistic as far as I can tell, but it needs to go too.

That is a childish answer.

You simply cannot tell the 5 billion people on the planet that, "I am right, you are wrong," and expect them to say, "geez, thanks, we'll just drop God and follow you."
 
All evidence to the contrary.

Once people are told the truth they have an amazing capacity to hear it.
 
Your post doesn't address the point I made. I didn't ask how, I asked if you were leaving Russia and China out of your assumption.
 
Mentally Ill idiot

So this is kind of funny.

I say that neither the threat of eternal damnation not the promise of eternal life are realistic threats or promises. I say people can simply choose to be moral.

You say that an entity that can do anything and everything, that intercedes in your life at every moment of everyday and is to be congratulated for all that is good and yet absolved of all that is wrong delivers on that threat and those promises. But we can never know that entity until after the time of our death. And this entity is essential for human morality.

And you have the temerity to tell me I am the "Mentally Ill idiot".

Better yet, people who believe in your entity use other believers, who choose to call themselves Muslims, to try and kill you because their belief is more sincere than yours.

And still you have the temerity to tell me I am the "Mentally Ill idiot".
 
Respectfully I believe your assumption that religion is the root of violent fanaticism is flawed. Unless you're leaving Russia and China out of the equation.

If you're referring to communism, particularly the Maoist/Stalinist communism practiced before the end of the Cold War and the major economic shift both Russia and the PRC underwent (and are still undergoing) I would answer that form of communism was more closely akin to religion, but both nations have 'fallen from the faith' so to speak.
If you're referring to the large moslem minorities within those countries, then I'm sure the gov't of those respective countries would be happy to do away with that form of monotheism.

However, doing away with irrational belief systems, particularly religion and especially the Abrahamic faiths is more problematic. By its very nature, H. sapiens is given to cognitive closure and deliberate agency to explain what is not easily or intuitively explainable, much in the same way H. sapiens is given to prefer high fat, high sugar foods.

In other words, religion is the junk food of the intellect.

Moreover, freedom of conscience (aka freedom of thought) is a universally regarded as a fundamental freedom, which includes the freedom of religion.

Maybe, one future day, universal education, based in rationalism and skepticism will gain ascendancy, and religions will be regulated to a harmless past time of a small inconsequential minority.
But I'd bet McDonald's goes out of business before that time.
 
The answer to displacing religion is simplicity itself - stop lying to children that there is omnipotent and omniscient entity. And those to whom the lie has been told, start telling them the truth.

PS - Christianity is not monotheistic as far as I can tell, but it needs to go too.

I hope all your lectures are free, because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay good money to listen to some dumbass who doesn't know whether Christianity is or isn't monotheistic. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
No. All 7 Billion people need to be told the truth. No one gets left behind.

OK so what is the truth?

We were created by Aliens overlords to mine gold from the earth?

Maybe we evolved from the apes?

Neither will go over well with Muslims. You might as well spit in their face. I give you credit for atleast trying.
 
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