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DeityMun

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Democrats Supported War on Iraq in 1998

Tuesday, September 10, 2002
By Carl Cameron

WASHINGTON -
Democrats are expressing reluctance and sometimes outright opposition to President Bush's plans for action against Iraq, even though they were on board with former President Clinton's plans to attack the rogue nation four years ago.

"His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region, and the security of all the rest of us," Clinton said in February 1998. "Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. Let there be no doubt, we are prepared to act.

"I know the people we may call upon in uniform are ready. The American people have to be ready as well," he added.

The words came within weeks of Senate Concurrent Resolution 71, co-sponsored by Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle and a dozen other Democrats.

The resolution condemned "in the strongest possible terms" Iraq's continued threat to international peace and security, and urged then-President Clinton to "take all necessary and appropriate actions to respond to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end it's weapons of mass destruction programs."

Among the Democratic co-sponsors were Sens. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, Chris Dodd of Connecticut, Max Cleland of Georgia, Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, Bob Graham of Florida and John Kerry of Massachusetts.

These days, they and other Democrats express doubt and reluctance to use force, but four years ago, Democrats in the House and Senate got downright hawkish, advocating an attack if Saddam Hussein did not comply with every detail of all the United Nations' weapons sanctions.

"If not, it's back to business. It is the use of force. It is a swift response militarily and by whatever other means may be necessary," Daschle said in a speech in late February 1998.

"I think that it is going to have to be more than a mere thump, as we say in Missouri. It's going to have to be a major, major strike," said Democratic Rep. Ike Skelton.

Congress never voted on the resolution urging force because Iraqi President Saddam Hussein promised again to comply with the U.N. sanctions at the last minute. He broke that promise only a few days later when he threw the U.N. weapons inspectors out of Iraq altogether.

After that event four years ago, Daschle said that "if nothing changes, the use of force at some point would be inevitable."

But four days ago, Daschle sounded a different tune.

"What has changed over the course of the last 10 years that brings this country to the belief that it has to act in a pre-emptive fashion?"

What has changed by most accounts is that after four years of continued weapons development, Saddam is even more dangerous than he was when Daschle was advocating military action.

What also has changed is the resident of the White House, a Republican president, who maintains very high popularity ratings.
 
Hey the UN won't stand up to someone who violates it's sanctions so why should the people most in favor of the UN, the Democrats, stand up to their resolutions?

The UN wants Bush destroyed as badly as the Democrats do. They much prefer working with pro-socialist world-view politicians like the Clintons. They hate working with people like Bush who will not march to the Euro-tunes of world diplomacy.
 
The first Defense for a Democrat is attack. Everyone knows right-wingers use rabid rhetoric and resume to name calling and bashing to get their point across. You refered to them, the Democrats, as hypocrites and fullfilling their expected stereotype so they will then feel free to engage in all sorts of name-calling and bashing...

Remember: Dem's fightin' words...
 
DM - About that OTHER thread...

Ignore the troll...

Dixon feeds off the attention.
 
I don't really think saying it's hypocritical what they're doing is name calling.. I COULD start name calling, but I don't really think that's it. It IS hypocritical what they're doing...
 
Relax, sorry, it's all TIC and cheap shots at the Dems...

My usual MO :D
 
Nice AV DietyMun. I used to live right down the street from their stadium (about 5-6 miles).

Now that I've seen the article that you posted, I remember that. Strange. Daschle doesn't have principles. His only concern is a thirst for power. He's proven that time and time again. It's just like what he did with forest management...forced strong rules on everyone else which led to dangerous and expensive forest fires, then exempted his own state from the "rules". He's a hypocrite of long standing.

I hope that he's defeated in the upcoming election, he's feeling some heat I think.
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:
Nice AV DietyMun. I used to live right down the street from their stadium (about 5-6 miles).

Now that I've seen the article that you posted, I remember that. Strange. Daschle doesn't have principles. His only concern is a thirst for power. He's proven that time and time again. It's just like what he did with forest management...forced strong rules on everyone else which led to dangerous and expensive forest fires, then exempted his own state from the "rules". He's a hypocrite of long standing.

I hope that he's defeated in the upcoming election, he's feeling some heat I think.

His soft-spoken thing really gets on my nerves.

But yeah.. it's pretty funny that no one has mentioned this before now, and how much their story has changed. You'd think we'd have even MORE reason since we were attacked, but apparently this is far more political for the Dems than they'd like people to believe.


Thanks, about the Av. I was born in Downey, CA, if you know where that's at. Over in L.A. County. Love my Angels. I'm also a Cardinals fan, since I'm now near St. Louis, but... still true to my Angels.
 
DeityMun said:


His soft-spoken thing really gets on my nerves.

But yeah.. it's pretty funny that no one has mentioned this before now, and how much their story has changed. You'd think we'd have even MORE reason since we were attacked, but apparently this is far more political for the Dems than they'd like people to believe.


Thanks, about the Av. I was born in Downey, CA, if you know where that's at. Over in L.A. County. Love my Angels. I'm also a Cardinals fan, since I'm now near St. Louis, but... still true to my Angels.

I'm very familiar with Downey. I spent a lot of time there and have many fond memories. Home of the Space Shuttle. Alas, the Space Shuttle design and development center is now a mall.
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:


I'm very familiar with Downey. I spent a lot of time there and have many fond memories. Home of the Space Shuttle. Alas, the Space Shuttle design and development center is now a mall.


Rockwell?! :eek: :eek:
 
I didn't support Clinton's attack on Iraq. I was relieved it was short-lived. I'm glad those Dem's have come around whether you call it politics or whatever.

I hope Bush can do whatever attacking he insists on doing as quickly as he can get it out of his system.:rolleyes:



:p
 
weed said:
I didn't support Clinton's attack on Iraq. I was relieved it was short-lived. I'm glad those Dem's have come around whether you call it politics or whatever.

I hope Bush can do whatever attacking he insists on doing as quickly as he can get it out of his system.:rolleyes:



:p


I wouldn't exactly call it "coming around."
 
NO! I vote to succeed from the Union.

Short of that, I vote Libertarian.

Short of that I hold my nose and vote Republican.

Short of that, I write in my OWN NAME!

:D
 
'cept my cousin the Sheriff. He's Democrat. I don't even have to show up and he gets my vote... :D !
 
LovetoGiveRoses said:


Are you familiar with it?


My aunt used to WORK there. I definitely remember the place. She works for Boeing now, and she's moving to Florida. That's a MALL now??
 
I want to see more "other countries" supporting him.

I think, I hope, that they're raising the rhetoric very loud now and when it gets really fevered, settle back and agree to a large, invasive multi-national VERY THOROUGH weapons inspection effort...led by Russia (though who leads is not so important) and/or some of the other more dovish countries. All the other countries will be so relieved that war is avoided that they'll gladly make sure that there's no real threat there.

If Saddam refuses that position, then maybe the other countries will be more likely to support some sort of low level military action (like just marching in peacefully to do inspections without an invitation and woe to those from Iraq who fire first. )

Could this be a well planned game of chess? Some of those guys in charge are pretty sharp. Powell is supposed to be very, very good with strategy.

The nuclear weapons program and the long range missle programs must be terminated. The current rockets can take a nuclear or bio weapon to Israel, Saudi, Kuwait, Iran and Turkey RIGHT NOW.

About Saddam...I dunno about that. If he has no weapons and a persistent check (frequent inspections) then he'd probably be harmless. Forcibly removing him..dunno..got a think on that one some more.
 
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My aunt used to WORK there. I definitely remember the place. She works for Boeing now, and she's moving to Florida. That's a MALL now??

Yep, from what my CA friends tell me, though I haven't been to see it. The athletic center is still there though. I drove by that last year.
 
Wow... I didn't hear that at all.

I guess Stonewood wasn't enough for them...
 
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