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I have humor in all of my stories, and sometimes it's central to them, but I do not submit in humor.
For me, comedy is still about something. That is, it has something to say about things, even farce. I want to be able to say that stuff to people who care about that stuff, even if I am saying it with gentle humor or ridiculous situations. So I want to direct the story where the people who care about the subject are.
Anal.
No. But you get the point.
For me, comedy is still about something. That is, it has something to say about things, even farce. I want to be able to say that stuff to people who care about that stuff, even if I am saying it with gentle humor or ridiculous situations. So I want to direct the story where the people who care about the subject are.
Anal.
No. But you get the point.
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That's always a tough call. The best rule-of-thumb I've heard is to put it in the category where it'll piss off the fewest readers. If the story contains as much or more humor than it does sex, you're probably best off putting it in the "Humor & Satire" category.
If the story has more heavy breathing than humor, you might want to place it in a sex related category.
HOWEVER, in case the other category under consideration is: Incest, Gay, BDSM, Non-Consent, and possibly Fetish, I would strongly advise you to put the story in one of them. Folks who don't like stories in those categories usually don't like them a whole lot. If they stumble across one in the Humor category, your score could suffer.
Good luck.
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If the story has more heavy breathing than humor, you might want to place it in a sex related category.
HOWEVER, in case the other category under consideration is: Incest, Gay, BDSM, Non-Consent, and possibly Fetish, I would strongly advise you to put the story in one of them. Folks who don't like stories in those categories usually don't like them a whole lot. If they stumble across one in the Humor category, your score could suffer.
Good luck.
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right - piss off the fewest - good point. kind of hide it somewhere.
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Not hide it so much as giving it the best possible showcase. Now if you want to really hide a story, give Non-Erotic a try. Of the top 150 stories in that category, only two have over 100 votes.hmmnmm said:
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that should be "never cared for the idea"
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Categories only make sense to the mind which created them, anyway. The timing chain is described in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance as being a part of "the feedback system," which, if you think about it, it is. But the tech manual which isolates the timing chain and its related parts under the heading "The Feedback System" probably doesn't exist.
That's why there's always a bit of bafflement when you come upon a site, a library, or anything else where what you want is accessed by categories. Whose categories? Where does that person draw his lines?
Sometimes you just never find it, because it has been categorized in a peculiar way.
That's why there's always a bit of bafflement when you come upon a site, a library, or anything else where what you want is accessed by categories. Whose categories? Where does that person draw his lines?
Sometimes you just never find it, because it has been categorized in a peculiar way.
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hmmnmm said:
Now what the fuck does that mean?
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If you wrote it serious but your friends can't stop laughing when they read it it might be a good idea to put it with the funny stuff cause thats what happened to me and I put mine with the funny stuff and people liked it it that way.
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So we've dealt with the last question, and Rumply has the nub, I think. But the rest of the post, as Zoot points out, however testily, is obscure.hmmnmm said:
Humor such as arises in my weasel story unfolds rather than twists, because it is situational and we see the situation develop before our eyes in small logical steps to make the monster the hero is trapped in by the end. Wodehouse does this, too.
"Anal sex is for buttholes" does neither the unfold nor the twist, but a sort of interpretive dance.
But since we have a twist, we have one. I don't think the twist makes the decision whether to put it in Humor any different, though.
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Hey! That was a nice thing to say cause Im a dancer. Thank you Mr Cant dog.
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Hey! That was a nice thing to say cause Im a dancer. Thank you Mr Cant dog.
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You can also try the opposite approach.hmmnmm said:
I wrote a story that is basically a satire of mind-control fantasies, and it plays with the expectations of that category's core readers.
Technically, maybe it should have been posted under Humour and Satire, but I chose MC instead. What would be the fun in writing a story that pokes a little fun at mind-control if mind-control readers don't read it?
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I wrote a fetish story - The Vinyl Dress - with motives like Lauren's.
I was making fun of Vinyl lovers and pointing out the disadvantages. Some of the feedback was vituperative.
'His Bad Hair Day' was for hair fetishists. They didn't like it unless they could laugh at themselves. Some could.
'White Scut' - so far only one person - thank you - has seen the joke.
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I was making fun of Vinyl lovers and pointing out the disadvantages. Some of the feedback was vituperative.
'His Bad Hair Day' was for hair fetishists. They didn't like it unless they could laugh at themselves. Some could.
'White Scut' - so far only one person - thank you - has seen the joke.
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I hear many times that "writing is writing"
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Now what the fuck does that mean?
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What's scary is I understand what hmmmm is saying, I think. No matter what the genre or length, there are certain universal factors involved with the craft of writing.
IMHO, humor is the most difficult to write of all genres. And the longer the story, the harder it is to do well.
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I hear many times that "writing is writing"
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Now what the fuck does that mean?
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What's scary is I understand what hmmmm is saying, I think. No matter what the genre or length, there are certain universal factors involved with the craft of writing.
IMHO, humor is the most difficult to write of all genres. And the longer the story, the harder it is to do well.
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Rumple Foreskin said:quote:
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I hear many times that "writing is writing"
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What's scary is I understand what hmmmm is saying, I think. No matter what the genre or length, there are certain universal factors involved with the craft of writing.
IMHO, humor is the most difficult to write of all genres. And the longer the story, the harder it is to do well.
Rumple Foreskin
I think it's really interesting to see both the commonalities and the differences between how women vs men approach the craft.
I've met one or two pro women writers who say just bang away on the keyboard like a mofo until you get to the end, which in my case produces verbiage, while men are more likely bore the pants off of you with rules of structure, plot, (and all that macho shit), which in my case produces heartlessness in the story.
It's all, like, Yin and Yang, y'know?
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"Writing is writing." I know what the fuck it means.
My employer charges our clients a different hourly rate for each of four "job functions" performed by me, the copywriter. Billing is based on a time log, created by me, that is said to reflect the percentage of time I spend on:
Concept
Writing
Editing
Proofreading
I found this troubling for two reasons: First of all, there is no place to record time Staring out of window or Writing while driving. Secondly, WTF?
"Writing is writing," I said to the boss' son, whose idea this was.
"Just make it as accurate as you can," he piped. "But keep in mind that Editing and Proofreading are billed at a lower rate."
I log 100% of my hours as "Concept." No one has asked me to account for the cheaper job functions since the layoffs last spring.
That's what the fuck "writing is writing" means.
My employer charges our clients a different hourly rate for each of four "job functions" performed by me, the copywriter. Billing is based on a time log, created by me, that is said to reflect the percentage of time I spend on:
Concept
Writing
Editing
Proofreading
I found this troubling for two reasons: First of all, there is no place to record time Staring out of window or Writing while driving. Secondly, WTF?
"Writing is writing," I said to the boss' son, whose idea this was.
"Just make it as accurate as you can," he piped. "But keep in mind that Editing and Proofreading are billed at a lower rate."
I log 100% of my hours as "Concept." No one has asked me to account for the cheaper job functions since the layoffs last spring.
That's what the fuck "writing is writing" means.
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See there you go. Sentences. I knew there was a common link.
Paper, dude. How could I have forgotten paper?
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Comedy is perhaps as difficult as Rumple says, I don't know. Certainly Wodehouse put hours into each page. He wanted no two lines of the print to go by without a zinger. He didn't have a word processor either, so he used pages of his stuff, typed, and cut into strips. Then he'd rearrange the strips, cut them with scissors, compose with them. Then copy off on the typewriter the resulting script. And his stuff is genius funny. And he certainly sweated bullets doing it.
I cannot feature doing that kind of labor, but thanks to the wonders of the computer, I can do stuff quite like that much easier. Quite like that, in the sense of rearranging "strips" of words, that is. I don't necessarily write stuff quite like Wodehouse.
My weasel story I did because I am constitutionally out of sympathy with BDSM itself. Those who were here back seven months ago may remember the threads we talked about this on. I considered it a major breakthrough for me to finally comprehend some of the appeal of it, and I made it a challenge to write in the genre. Having no experience, I couldn't write "lifestyle." The result was the weasel story, and I submitted it in BDSM. But even if it isn't Wodehouse, it's comedy.
Paper, dude. How could I have forgotten paper?
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Comedy is perhaps as difficult as Rumple says, I don't know. Certainly Wodehouse put hours into each page. He wanted no two lines of the print to go by without a zinger. He didn't have a word processor either, so he used pages of his stuff, typed, and cut into strips. Then he'd rearrange the strips, cut them with scissors, compose with them. Then copy off on the typewriter the resulting script. And his stuff is genius funny. And he certainly sweated bullets doing it.
I cannot feature doing that kind of labor, but thanks to the wonders of the computer, I can do stuff quite like that much easier. Quite like that, in the sense of rearranging "strips" of words, that is. I don't necessarily write stuff quite like Wodehouse.
My weasel story I did because I am constitutionally out of sympathy with BDSM itself. Those who were here back seven months ago may remember the threads we talked about this on. I considered it a major breakthrough for me to finally comprehend some of the appeal of it, and I made it a challenge to write in the genre. Having no experience, I couldn't write "lifestyle." The result was the weasel story, and I submitted it in BDSM. But even if it isn't Wodehouse, it's comedy.
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Wodehouse rules!
PGW's writing seems so effortless, some are probably tempted to not take it seriously. But trust me, what he did is very, very tough.
Willie and the Brain, my Valentine's contest entry, is written in his style. It has gotten respectable votes, (BUT I STILL NEED THREE OR FOUR MORE) especially for something in Humor, ten nice comments and one I still don't understand.
Several readers have encouraged me to continue the series. But trust me, that would be a huge, time-consuming challenge. When I'm through re-written my first novel, I may give it a shot. It's just not the type I can toss off in a day or two.
Rumple Foreskin
PGW's writing seems so effortless, some are probably tempted to not take it seriously. But trust me, what he did is very, very tough.
Willie and the Brain, my Valentine's contest entry, is written in his style. It has gotten respectable votes, (BUT I STILL NEED THREE OR FOUR MORE) especially for something in Humor, ten nice comments and one I still don't understand.
Several readers have encouraged me to continue the series. But trust me, that would be a huge, time-consuming challenge. When I'm through re-written my first novel, I may give it a shot. It's just not the type I can toss off in a day or two.
Rumple Foreskin
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