HT check for signs of life?

[Jada59]

My gardener fell asleep on the couch around 3 pm. It's now almost 11:30 pm. He got up for the day around 5 am. He was working hard but this seems like a very long nap.

He did get up at some point and ate a very large portion of tuna casserole. He did this either while I was in the shower or while I myself fell asleep on the other couch. I was waiting for him as we were going to go to the grocery store. That never happened because he has my keys. Not sure where they are or I would have gone by myself.

He is turned towards the back of the couch, coat on and hood up. I can't easily access his nostrils, neck or wrists.

Any other way to tell if he's alive? I keep checking and he doesn't seem to have moved.

 

[Jada59]

Okay, maybe he fell into a stupor from a sugar high. I approached him carefully and saw a very large pile of candy wrappers near his head. I called his name softly. He answered on the fifth try. Didn't wake up. Merely fluttered his eyelashes slightly and muttered something.

 

[MKvDeepSea]

My gardener fell asleep on the couch around 3 pm. It's now almost 11:30 pm. He got up for the day around 5 am. He was working hard but this seems like a very long nap.

He did get up at some point and ate a very large portion of tuna casserole. He did this either while I was in the shower or while I myself fell asleep on the other couch. I was waiting for him as we were going to go to the grocery store. That never happened because he has my keys. Not sure where they are or I would have gone by myself.

He is turned towards the back of the couch, coat on and hood up. I can't easily access his nostrils, neck or wrists.

Any other way to tell if he's alive? I keep checking and he doesn't seem to have moved.

Hey Jada59,

If he had his shoes/boots off you can usually find a pulse around his ankles. Or just rest your hand on his ribcage and feel for respiration; you may have to hold your hand there for a while as his breathing may have slowed way down. However, since you were so concerned and had found candy wrappers around him, shake the hell out of him, if you don't get a response then open his shirt and use a knuckle rub on his sternum. No response call emergency services.

Okay, had to add this after reading your second post. Since he responded but didn't quite wake up, shine a very bright flashlight in his eyes. I use to use that method to wake watch standers who wouldn't wake up for their watches. Just watch out for an explosive response.

 

[Morganalefay512]

Agreed, no need to be gentle. If your checking for signs of life I would be on the assertive side of things. The old squeeze a pen accord their nail bed is a good trick. Then there is always the old place their hand in warm water and see if they pee them self, if they aren’t alive it won’t matter but if they are....well that’s just funny.

 

[Privates1stClass]

Any other way to tell if he's alive? I keep checking and he doesn't seem to have moved.

You could grab his dick and stimulate it. If he's alive, you should be able to detect a pulse there.

 

[Blase]

Generally not a concern unless shortly before going to sleep he mentioned that the secret of life is one thing, just one thing.

 

[vanmyers86]

Do you have an update, Jada?

 

[Jada59]

Hey Jada59,

If he had his shoes/boots off you can usually find a pulse around his ankles. Or just rest your hand on his ribcage and feel for respiration; you may have to hold your hand there for a while as his breathing may have slowed way down. However, since you were so concerned and had found candy wrappers around him, shake the hell out of him, if you don't get a response then open his shirt and use a knuckle rub on his sternum. No response call emergency services.

Okay, had to add this after reading your second post. Since he responded but didn't quite wake up, shine a very bright flashlight in his eyes. I use to use that method to wake watch standers who wouldn't wake up for their watches. Just watch out for an explosive response.

He had boots on and a very thick coat. He eventually got up but then went back to sleep for 3 more hours! I think he was sick or something. I made him drink some water but he was acting weird. Seemed frightened when I came near him and wouldn't let me touch him. He seems okay now except for some leg and back pain.

 

[PapaDan]

This is your gardener? Asleep on your couch? Has your keys? What are you not telling us?

But that's not relevant to your question. Not knowing either of you, I can only speculate, but if it were me and I was worried, I would wake him up and ask him if he is OK. And since he's acting weird and seems easily frightened, I would make sure he hasn't overdosed on something. Better to be sure and not have to call 911, or worse.

 

[Jada59]

This is your gardener? Asleep on your couch? Has your keys? What are you not telling us?

But that's not relevant to your question. Not knowing either of you, I can only speculate, but if it were me and I was worried, I would wake him up and ask him if he is OK. And since he's acting weird and seems easily frightened, I would make sure he hasn't overdosed on something. Better to be sure and not have to call 911, or worse.

He lives in the tiny house behind me and is supposed to be moving out but currently he has no transportation, no phone and no computer. Also broke up with his business partner/GF who physically abused him badly enough that he lost hearing in one ear and she was put in jail. So I am not pushing the moving out part and cutting him some slack.

I let him come in and out of the house as he needs to because there is no running water in his place. He smokes pot but doesn't take anything else. Both of us have a screwed up sleep schedule right now after being snowed in for days.

He is pretty much doing the same thing right now. I went into the kitchen to make dinner and he told me to give him 10 minutes to clean up his mess. He fell asleep on the couch. Didn't clean anything.

I got an onion and proceeded to make my dinner. Once again he said he'd clean up and get out of there. I commented about the oven being on. He said he was making dinner. There was a plate of partially eaten toast slices, a partial cube of butter, and a bowl with something topped with Marinara sauce and cheese. Not sure why he needed the oven.

I partially cleaned up his mess, made a cottage pie, ate, then put the leftovers in the fridge when it became clear he wasn't going to wake to eat.

After that, I put on some music and danced for about 1.5 hours. I didn't blare the music but turned it up loudly enough that I thought he could hear it. We're going on six hours now. He's still asleep.

I think perhaps he has switched his sleep schedule on purpose so he will be sleeping while he knows I am up and is sleeping in the house so he won't be alone. He will likely wake about the time I want to go to bed. I'm up all night. He will then strike up a conversation with me until I begin to fall asleep. He wakes *me* repeatedly as I try to sleep. Checking on me I think. I did almost die last weekend due to the side effect of a med and the poor guy stresses out over everything.

He does have issues such as PTSD and OCD. He seems to need to verbalize the events of his GF's attack on him, which was quite horrific. I am trying my best to be supportive but I also want to make sure he doesn't need some sort of medical attention. He never went to the hospital after the attack and I think he should have. But I'm not his keeper.

 

[MKvDeepSea]

Hey Jada59,

Reading over your responses concerning your gardener my alarm bells went off all the way across the board. The man needs professional help and I would suggest you ease him out of your life before he goes critical and you have a massive problem. Good luck.

 

[PapaDan]

I tend to agree with MKvDeepSea. If this guy is suffering from PTSD and OCD, and maybe depression from losing his GF and facing having to move, his problems could become your problems in a big way. Also, if he's sleeping on your couch and not in his own place, it sounds like he is moving out of the tiny house in back into your house.

And as I said, I don't know either of you, but pot for some people is a gateway drug, and considering the emotional problems he has, maybe he is self medicating with something you don't know about.

It's been said, "you can't fix the world". Maybe you need to set some limits with this guy before his problems become your problems. Maybe his Gf became abusive because his problems became her problems and she couldn't deal with it?

 

[Jada59]

I tend to agree with MKvDeepSea. If this guy is suffering from PTSD and OCD, and maybe depression from losing his GF and facing having to move, his problems could become your problems in a big way. Also, if he's sleeping on your couch and not in his own place, it sounds like he is moving out of the tiny house in back into your house.

And as I said, I don't know either of you, but pot for some people is a gateway drug, and considering the emotional problems he has, maybe he is self medicating with something you don't know about.

It's been said, "you can't fix the world". Maybe you need to set some limits with this guy before his problems become your problems. Maybe his Gf became abusive because his problems became her problems and she couldn't deal with it?

He never lived in my house. I did offer him the spare room but him and only him. I have an extreme dislike for his ex and the only reason I allowed him to stay here was to get away from her.

I'm actually okay with him sleeping in here so I can keep an eye on him but I would like some privacy because damn I am getting horny!

His GF is a nut job. She admitted to things she did, such as slashing his bike tires and even went on to justify why she did it. She pushed me into the fridge. She did all sorts of things to sabotage their businesses. They had two. I caught her changing the phone number on one to her own personal number. Then she had business cards made up with that number on it. She was accepting jobs for him but not telling him. Then he'd have pissed off customers messaging him when he didn't show up.

I could write a novel on her sorry ass. Part of the reason he didn't leave her sooner was that he was trying to keep the business together. She was making constant threats to him as to what she would do to him if he left her. And now she has made good on that. Has stolen everything he needed to do his job and has moved his goats somewhere and won't tell him where. She is facing jail if not prison. Only reason they didn't keep her there is that she had a miscarriage in jail. Claimed she didn't know she was pregnant. And the baby may not even be his. I know that sounds like a made up story, but it's not. I caught her going out with other guys some time back. He didn't want to believe me but he knows now it's true.

Thing is, he's the one who helped me through my nasty divorce. He was my shoulder to cry on. So I feel like I owe him the same in return. Anyway... Enough of that. One day at a time!

 

[Jada59]

You could grab his dick and stimulate it. If he's alive, you should be able to detect a pulse there.

Hehehe. And then I would know for sure if he wanted sex!

 

[Jada59]

Hey Jada59,

Reading over your responses concerning your gardener my alarm bells went off all the way across the board. The man needs professional help and I would suggest you ease him out of your life before he goes critical and you have a massive problem. Good luck.

He already went critical. That's why I kicked him out and got an order of protection but... The wacky left wing liberals run this place and they did not grant me the order of protection. He seems to be doing MUCH better mentally. I do know he needs help in that dept. It's just trying to get him to get the help.

 

[MKvDeepSea]

He already went critical. That's why I kicked him out and got an order of protection but... The wacky left wing liberals run this place and they did not grant me the order of protection. He seems to be doing MUCH better mentally. I do know he needs help in that dept. It's just trying to get him to get the help.

Wacky left wing liberals?...goodbye Jada. Apparently I've wasted my time.