How to lose weight, without a diet. Sounds nuts right?

THE_GENTLEMAN

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Well, I've put up a post in a section about big girls. I happen to like big girls, myself. But I know a lot of you are beating yourselves up. There are only two options here.

1. Accept and love yourself the way you are.
2. Become someone else (the ideal you)

I'll show you how. This is what I am going to be doing for a living and I'm offering to help you laides, guys too for free. This works, but only if you give it the required time and dedication necessary for it to work and it takes time.
Think of how long you've been beating yourself up with "I'm ugly" "I'm fat"
Well it's going to take some time, but I'm offering my help and it DOES WORK.

Anybody want to lose weight for real? This has nothing to do with dieting, nor exercize. This has to do with the brain and the program that runs in it that tells you to eat. Most people don't realize this, but there is a program running that you are probably unaware of. It is the program telling you to eat the stuff that is making you gain weight.

Here's how it works in a simplified form.
1. You've had something happen probably, unless there is a genetic propensity for obesity. Probably a traumatic experience. Or perhaps it's your way of forgettting about something you don't want to think about. An escape.
2. You've probably told yourself that your fat, unattractive, ect.
3. What this does is builds the program in your brain. You've become what you've told yourself that you are.
4. So, in essence, you've become and reinforced what you've told yourself, built a program and the body is basically addicted to the chemicals that are released when the program runs.

I'll show you how to insert an idea into your brain, and make it work. You will learn to become somebody else. Imagine creating a new you?

Let's face it, diets do not work. Stop beating yourself up. If you can spare 10-15 minutes, twice a day, this will work. However you have to realize that th intent (idea to lose weight) comes from a higher place (mind, spirit, higher self) and the need to run the program, making you eat, to satisfy the program, comes from the body (physical)

Here, I'll try to explain it simpler

1. You gained weight
2. You told yourself that you are ugly, fat, and that you wish you were someone else
3. A program in the brain is built, let's call it "I am fat"
4. The subconscious and its sneakieness, causes you to make decisions without you even knowing it to allow the program
to prevail.
5. Every time you tell yourself "I am fat" you increase the power of the program
6. What if, you conceptualize a new you.
7. This new idea is inserted in the head and now you convince yourself you are something other than what you've told
yourself.
8. Now, you subconsciously make decisions to support the new program.

This works, but it takes discipline. If you can afford 10-15 minutes, 2x a day, when you wake, before you sleep, this will
work. It will take months, perhaps even a year. But ask yourself how long you've beat yourself up with diets, books, food,
wonder drugs, etc....

Think of all the money you wasted. I'm offering to help you for free. Add me to your yahoo messenger list and I will
help you. End the pain once and for all.

Kevin
 
Very nice and I agree self esteem is important.

But - you are still going to need to MOVE YOUR BUTT and watch WHAT YOU EAT. Having better self-esteem will help you in this department, but just self-esteem alone isn't going to cut it.
 
NO, NO, NO and NO. Forget about what you think you know. Now I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm trying to help. Self esteem has little or nothing to do with this. This is about creating a new you.

Imagine an outrageous idea. Of how how you want to be. Set a goal weight, a number in your head. I will show you how to create this program, insert it into your brain, so it becomes you, without all the voices that you've experienced in the past every time you start a diet "well, I'll just eath this once" "I'll just eat bad today" "We can have a little of this"

If your intent is to lose weight? Who are those voices? Are they you? Or is the intent (your intent to lose the weight you) ?

I'd rather be the intent (MIND)
The voices are (BODY) and aren't you. They are a program, that you have built. Nothing to do with self esteem. If you want to learn more, ask.

To learn how this works, you have to forget about what you think you already know. Admit to yourself that what you've already tried does not work.

This has nothing to do with diet, nor exercize. If you become your new idea, your new you, you will automatically do the things that will support this new program, without you even realizing it. Think I'm nuts? What have you got to lose?

Kevin






SummerMorning said:
Very nice and I agree self esteem is important.

But - you are still going to need to MOVE YOUR BUTT and watch WHAT YOU EAT. Having better self-esteem will help you in this department, but just self-esteem alone isn't going to cut it.
 
If you're trying to do a take off of cognitive behavioral therapy to apply it to weight loss (which is frequently done) you're approaching it in quite a bizzare way.
 
bisexplicit said:
If you're trying to do a take off of cognitive behavioral therapy to apply it to weight loss (which is frequently done) you're approaching it in quite a bizzare way.


Nope, I've heard of CBT before, but I don't really know what it is. I've used this particular discipline in my life for many things. It does work for weight loss as well. It works, but only if you forget about what you think you know. See, that's why stuff doesn't work for the most part. You must leave the past in the past, and the past knowledge in the past. You can't live the future through the eyes of the past.

This is relatively simple. It can be used for anything. Just like building a house, you start with an idea. That is the first step. But, most importantly is that you have to spend the time doing this. If you become an idea, to the point where you actually vibrate your idea, to the point where you are it, and it becomes more important and more real than the external world, reality will bend in your favor.

I'm not kidding you. You have to forget about what you think you know. You must lose all associations to what you think works and doesn't. All we really are is associative memory. That is not really you. You, are your mind, which most people don't take the time to realize. These associative memories are just basically comparisions, to a situation in the past, that produce the same result over and over and over.

Why? Because you don't have the knowledge to understand how you keep repeating the same behaviour over and over. Most importantly, the intent, which is the idea is you. The voices, the uneasieness, the fear, the anxiety, is not you. You don't want that, do you? Then where the fuck does it come from? The body. Now most people aren't ready to hear this, or understand it, and I don't want to get into it too much as to spark a religious arguement. But you are not your body.

The reason that the United States of America is falling apart is because most people are running in BODY/MIND mode, rather than MIND/BODY mode. Isn't it the mind that should control the body? Then why are we making decisions based upon what the body wants, rather than the mind, which has an altogether intent?

Kevin
 
Oh god, this is going to be so amusing. Especially if you end up actually convincing someone this will work. I'm just going to sit back and watch and see if you can indoctrinate anyone. :D
 
bisexplicit said:
Oh god, this is going to be so amusing. Especially if you end up actually convincing someone this will work. I'm just going to sit back and watch and see if you can indoctrinate anyone. :D


Well if anyone is interested, I'm going to ask you to PM me. I'm not going to play this. This is also an example of why people don't obtain their goals, because there is always someone trying to stand in your way, telling you that it is not possible. Why? because they are perhaps unhappy in thier own life and for some strange reason, feed off of creating doubt, fear and misery in others.

This is another problem with this country. Too many people, into other peoples business, rather than keeping to themselves.

If you don't like what I have to say, why are you here? I'm not asking for money. I'm trying to help people, which is what I like to do. So if you don't have anything nice to say, why are you here?

Kevin
 
THE_GENTLEMAN said:
To learn how this works, you have to forget about what you think you already know. Admit to yourself that what you've already tried does not work.

I'm not saying you're a jerk or anything - but what I do works. *shrug*

BTW - the mind/body dichotomy is an illusion, you are your body.
 
THE_GENTLEMAN said:
This is another problem with this country. Too many people, into other peoples business, rather than keeping to themselves.

and what do you call what YOU'RE doing?

*slowly backs out of the room*
 
SummerMorning said:
I'm not saying you're a jerk or anything - but what I do works. *shrug*

BTW - the mind/body dichotomy is an illusion, you are your body.


Well that is great. If it works for you, what you do, then great. But why try to discourage others who have tried everything and still can't be where they want to be?

I'm done, I'm not going to argue with anybody. Not my style. Just trying to help.

Kevin
 
EJFan said:
and what do you call what YOU'RE doing?

*slowly backs out of the room*


Just trying to help. If you don't want help, then don't reply. Simple ha?

Kevin
 
Welcome to Lit.

You have to have a thick skin around here.

Good luck.
 
Eilan said:
Welcome to Lit.

You have to have a thick skin around here.

Good luck.
You ain't kiddin bout that. My first time on the GB had me runnin and screaming.
 
I can try help people too.

For the 15 minutes that you are thinking about how awesome you are you could be on your way to a good workout that will have immediate results.

Im training for an adventure race. Its been a month. I was almost 210 when i started. Im down to about 180 right now and im getting to wear i want to be. All ive done is been a bit more careful about what I eat and going out and being active. There is no tricks to getting in shape, no formulas, no pills, no mind tricks, no lazy assed solution. You simply have to get off your ass and change your lifestyle.

Time and money wasted? Money? If you think living a healthy lifestyle is a waste of time and money you need to reconsider things. Even if your system works (It wont) youll loose a little weight. All your organs will be the same stregnth as before and youll be about the same 'fitness' as before, just without some fat.

Im going to make my own weight loss program one day and make a million dollars. I will sell tap water for $4/Litre and wright on the side of my container "Drink this instead of coffee/pop/beer/etc" also included will be healthy food that i will charge to much money for. Ill suggest theat they take a walk around the neighborhood on my shoes that cost $200 for optimum results. People will begin to loose weight and everyone will be buying my plan.

Wait a minute.
 
I don't get it, why are there always 'plans' for losing weight?

I mean seriously, there was all those celebrity diet things, water diet, grapefruit diet, then everybody got tired of diets, so they came up with plans, same thing, different name.

None of them work really, the water diet works great if you want to lose weight fast, but after you start eating again you gain twice as much back. Grapefruit diet will work, assuming you can stand to have grapefruits for breakfast and lunch for the rest of your life. :eek: That Atkins plan will work, though you rather lose out on some good food. This one put out by the gentleman might work if someone can be convinced that eating or drinking all treats, cakes, donuts and anything else with sugar or chocolate in it is bad. :confused:

There is only one thing that will work, it's not hard, it's not a plan, and it's simple. All you do is eat like a normal person, you want chips, have some chips, you want cake, have some cake. What you eat isn't important, when you eat has an impact, along with how much.

Don't eat in bed, don't eat right when your going to bed, have breakfast lunch and dinner, one of them should be a large meal, when you have a large meal is up to you, just keep it to one a day.

OK, here's the important part, exercise, I'm not talking 8 hours on a stairmaster a day or anything, I'm just saying get up and do things, go gardening, take a walk, go for a bike ride, have lots of sex, seriously, it's the best fun and burns off more calories than most anything else most of us do in a day.

If you don't have any time to get out and go for a walk or garden, do the laundry, do the dishes, make dinner, those three things burn off what you have left over from breakfast and lunch if you have a family, just you, well your going to have to get out.

If you want to call it a diet or plan, call it the life plan. :catroar:
 
emap said:
I don't get it, why are there always 'plans' for losing weight?

I love how the latest fad diet is called the "No Fad" diet...


There is some truth to what Mr. Gentleman is saying ~ visualizing your success and maintaining positive attitude are crucial if you're trying to lose weight, fat, get in shape, or whatever. If you can do this well enough, it would become your reality... and all your habits would adjust to fit it.

While saying that you don't have to change your eating and exercise habits is misleading, I think he was trying to get at the idea that you would adapt them on a somewhat subconscious level if you believed strongly enough in your goal.
 
SummerMorning said:
Ooops.. Err... sorry, no offence. You said visualise and I saw the AV.

Maybe that'll be the next diet trend. AV's that hold your attention so long you forget about eating... would that be another form of hypnosis?
 
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