How the Epstein mess ends

[ByteMe13]

Bondi comes out and says there WAS a list but that she had it destroyed, for the good of the country or some other nonsense. She resigns or Trump pretends to fire her. The MAGAites go back to speculating who is on the list. Everyone is happy


Also, Trump contacts Giselle Maxwell and makes her an offer she can’t refuse: 3 years in a minimum security prison, then a pardon. Just has to keep her mouth shut

 

[Bray123]

Trump is calling all his supporters who don't think that it was all a hoax, 'stupid'.

That's what he thinks of you all. Mind you, he spent a lot of time telling you that it was real. So now we have a conundrum; are his supporters stupid for believing Epstein was real because he said it was real, or are they stupid for believing it was false while he was telling them it was real.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945519150379544976

 

[HisArpy]

OR...

The list has some notable personages on it who are no longer actively involved in politics. Bringing their names into the light, without prosecuting them for offenses which may be beyond the statute of limitations, is stupid and serves no purpose.

Much like how screaming for blood over Biden's autopen scandal is stupid and serves no purpose.

 

[73Seahawks]

Bondi comes out and says there WAS a list but that she had it destroyed, for the good of the country or some other nonsense. She resigns or Trump pretends to fire her. The MAGAites go back to speculating who is on the list. Everyone is happy


Also, Trump contacts Giselle Maxwell and makes her an offer she can’t refuse: 3 years in a minimum security prison, then a pardon. Just has to keep her mouth shut

Prediction: This will fade from the headlines and the world will move onto something more juicy.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It won’t end. Conspiracy theories are rarely proven to be true and rarely go away.

 

[Chernosoth]

Around 2008 I saw rumors and allegations on craigslist about Epstein and Clinton, which I dismissed because they seemed very poor attempts at diversion from Bush's incompetence. Eighteen years later, Epstein is dead. If the Clintons have actually arranged a homicide, that is the most conspicuous possibility.

The power and wealth class is losing power and wealth. That's how this ends.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It won’t end. Conspiracy theories are rarely proven to be true and rarely go away.

As much as Trump Sr. wants him to go away he just won’t.

 

[ByteMe13]

Around 2008 I saw rumors and allegations on craigslist about Epstein and Clinton, which I dismissed because they seemed very poor attempts at diversion from Bush's incompetence. Eighteen years later, Epstein is dead. If the Clintons have actually arranged a homicide, that is the most conspicuous possibility.

The power and wealth class is losing power and wealth. That's how this ends.

Billy Barr had Epstein whacked.

 

[Bray123]

Pam Bondi's letter to Kash Patel...
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391331/dl?inline

 

[Bray123]

OR...

The list has some notable personages on it who are no longer actively involved in politics. Bringing their names into the light, without prosecuting them for offenses which may be beyond the statute of limitations, is stupid and serves no purpose.

Much like how screaming for blood over Biden's autopen scandal is stupid and serves no purpose.

Especially when Trump used autopen for thousands of orders, including the J6 pardons. If Biden's autopen is invalid so is Trump's.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Today’s WSJ OpEd.

The Inside Scoop on Jeffrey Epstein
I was his lawyer. I know things that court orders won’t allow me to disclose.
By Alan Dershowitz

I was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. I know the facts, some of which I can’t disclose because it is privileged or subject to court-imposed sealing orders. But what I can disclose makes several important things clear:

Epstein never created a “client list.” The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several “clients.” These names have been redacted. They should be disclosed but the courts have ordered them sealed. I know who they are. They don’t include any current officeholders. We don’t know whether the accusations are true. The courts have also sealed negative information about some of the accusers to protect them. Neither the Justice Department nor private defense lawyers are free to disregard court sealing orders. The media can and should petition the courts for the release of all names and information so the public can draw its own conclusions.

There has also been speculation about incriminating videos taken by hidden cameras in Epstein’s guest bedrooms. There are videotapes, but they are of public areas of his Palm Beach, Fla., home. Epstein reported the theft of money and a licensed firearm from a drawer in his living room, so the police installed a video camera. I am not aware of video cameras in guest bedrooms.

Open records show an acquaintance between Epstein and Mr. Trump many years ago. That relationship ended when Mr. Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, long before becoming president. I have seen nothing that would suggest anything improper or even questionable by Mr. Trump.

It is clear from the evidence that Epstein committed suicide. What isn’t clear is whether he was assisted by jail personnel. That seems likely to me, based on the evidence of allegedly broken cameras, transfer of his cellmate and the absence of guards during relevant time periods.

I have absolutely no doubt that Epstein never worked for any intelligence agency. If he had, he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, who would have used that information to get him a better deal. (He wasn’t satisfied with the so-called sweetheart deal he got, which required him to spend 1½ years in a local jail and register as a sex offender.) My sources in Israel have confirmed to me that he had no connection to Israeli intelligence. That false story—recently peddled by Tucker Carlson—probably emanated from credible allegations that Robert Maxwell (1923-91), father of Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, worked with the Mossad.

Conspiracy stories attract readers, viewers and listeners. They are also fodder for political attacks. The Epstein case has generated more than its share of such theories, and there is nothing more annoying to gossip mongers than when stubborn facts (or the absence of facts) get in the way of a juicy theory. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is really nothing much to see here, beyond what has already been disclosed.

 

[ByteMe13]

Today’s WSJ OpEd.

The Inside Scoop on Jeffrey Epstein
I was his lawyer. I know things that court orders won’t allow me to disclose.
By Alan Dershowitz

I was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. I know the facts, some of which I can’t disclose because it is privileged or subject to court-imposed sealing orders. But what I can disclose makes several important things clear:

Epstein never created a “client list.” The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several “clients.” These names have been redacted. They should be disclosed but the courts have ordered them sealed. I know who they are. They don’t include any current officeholders. We don’t know whether the accusations are true. The courts have also sealed negative information about some of the accusers to protect them. Neither the Justice Department nor private defense lawyers are free to disregard court sealing orders. The media can and should petition the courts for the release of all names and information so the public can draw its own conclusions.
There has also been speculation about incriminating videos taken by hidden cameras in Epstein’s guest bedrooms. There are videotapes, but they are of public areas of his Palm Beach, Fla., home. Epstein reported the theft of money and a licensed firearm from a drawer in his living room, so the police installed a video camera. I am not aware of video cameras in guest bedrooms.

Open records show an acquaintance between Epstein and Mr. Trump many years ago. That relationship ended when Mr. Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, long before becoming president. I have seen nothing that would suggest anything improper or even questionable by Mr. Trump.

It is clear from the evidence that Epstein committed suicide. What isn’t clear is whether he was assisted by jail personnel. That seems likely to me, based on the evidence of allegedly broken cameras, transfer of his cellmate and the absence of guards during relevant time periods.

I have absolutely no doubt that Epstein never worked for any intelligence agency. If he had, he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, who would have used that information to get him a better deal. (He wasn’t satisfied with the so-called sweetheart deal he got, which required him to spend 1½ years in a local jail and register as a sex offender.) My sources in Israel have confirmed to me that he had no connection to Israeli intelligence. That false story—recently peddled by Tucker Carlson—probably emanated from credible allegations that Robert Maxwell (1923-91), father of Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, worked with the Mossad.

Conspiracy stories attract readers, viewers and listeners. They are also fodder for political attacks. The Epstein case has generated more than its share of such theories, and there is nothing more annoying to gossip mongers than when stubborn facts (or the absence of facts) get in the way of a juicy theory. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is really nothing much to see here, beyond what has already been disclosed.

The guy that kept his underwear on

 

[ll74]

Lol

 

[MajorRewrite]

Pam Bondi's letter to Kash Patel...
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391331/dl?inline

Bondi and Kash must be in on the “hoax”.

 

[MajorRewrite]

It won’t end. Conspiracy theories are rarely proven to be true and rarely go away.

The Trumpstein Files scandal won’t end until the files are put on Hunter’s laptop and buried in the basement of Comet Pizza in DC.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Conspiracy stories attract readers, viewers and listeners. They are also fodder for political attacks. The Epstein case has generated more than its share of such theories, and there is nothing more annoying to gossip mongers than when stubborn facts (or the absence of facts) get in the way of a juicy theory. Sorry to disappoint you, but there is really nothing much to see here, beyond what has already been disclosed.

If there is “really nothing much to see here”, why have Kash, Bongino and Donnie Jr ranted about the files for years? Is Dershowitz saying that the MAGA ranks are full of unhinged conspiracy loons?

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The Trumpstein Files scandal won’t end until the files are put on Hunter’s laptop and buried in the basement of Comet Pizza in DC.

Lotta great stuff on Hunter’s laptop.

 

[Bray123]

Lotta great stuff on Hunter’s laptop.

It was all discovered by a blind repairman.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

If there is “really nothing much to see here”, why have Kash, Bongino and Donnie Jr ranted about the files for years? Is Dershowitz saying that the MAGA ranks are full of unhinged conspiracy loons?

This was written by Dershowitz, not me. I have no idea what the DOJ and court records contain. I would imagine they have an extensive collection of material pertaining to clients, associates, visitors to his island and homes, victims, politicians, celebrities, billionaires, foreign leaders, etc collected from a myriad of sources. What that material might reveal and who it might criminally implicate, embarrass, damage is anyone’s guess.

I haven’t been following this saga as closely as the social media and podcast set has. That said, I do wonder why both the Biden and Trump administrations have not been transparent but I’m not at all convinced there’s any nefarious purpose in keeping the records sealed. But I suppose anything is possible.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It was all discovered by a blind repairman.

I’m guessing Hunter will be more careful with his computers and personal electronics devices in the future. Doubt he’ll be using that shop again.

 

[Bray123]

I’m guessing Hunter will be more careful with his computers and personal electronics devices in the future. Doubt he’ll be using that shop again.

There was such a lot of incriminating material on the hard drive that Trump had to try to blackmail Zelenskyy into inventing more stuff about Hunter.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

There was such a lot of incriminating material on the hard drive that Trump had to try to blackmail Zelenskyy into inventing more stuff about Hunter.

What?

 

[MajorRewrite]

This was written by Dershowitz, not me.

I agree with Dershowitz that the MAGA ranks are full of irresponsible characters promoting conspiracy theories for personal gain.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I agree with Dershowitz that the MAGA ranks are full of irresponsible characters promoting conspiracy theories for personal gain.

Politics definitely feeds a lot of conspiracy theories, but most conspiracy theorists are believers. Trump and hard core MAGAs still think the election was stolen. TDS types still believe the Steele dossier is real and that Trump hired hookers to piss on him in Russia, etc.

 

[stxjimmy]

Politics definitely feeds a lot of conspiracy theories, but most conspiracy theorists are believers. Trump and hard core MAGAs still think the election was stolen. TDS types still believe the Steele dossier is real and that Trump hired hookers to piss on him in Russia, etc.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63305382