How serious is the socialist sanctuary city shit going to get?

[irksomesauce]

President Trump has informed the American people that an immediate priority for his administration will be to require sanctuary cities to cooperate with federal laws. An estimated 650 criminal offenders are released onto California’s streets every month in violation of the transfer request into federal custody. California denies almost two-thirds of the nation’s rejected alien detainer requests. To deter sanctuary jurisdictions from harboring convicted criminals, the Trump administration should require Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) to publish a weekly report of all released criminal aliens that will be a public record.

...An October 2014 report from ICE that was made public in 2015 detailed 276 sanctuary cities that released 8,145 illegal migrants of whom 1,867 were later arrested 4,298 times with multiple violations amounting to 7,491 charges. Illegal migrants are 3.5 percent of the U.S. population but are 37.6 percent of federal sentences and 13.6 percent of all offenders sentenced for crimes nationwide. The undocumented comprise 12 percent of murder sentences, 20 percent of kidnapping sentences and 16 percent of drug trafficking sentences. Unauthorized migrants are about 7 percent of the California population but over 12 percent of the state prison population.

Our laws cannot be left unenforced because someone here illegally fears reporting a crime. Peace officers generally do not require crime victims to provide an immigration status. All law enforcement officers have an absolute right to inquire of any person’s immigration status at their discretion. It is unfathomable that sanctuary ordinances restrict law enforcement from this right given it was unanimously affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court in Muehler v. Mena. Also, all local and state governments are required by federal law to share an immigration status with federal authorities pursuant 8 U.S. Code 1373.

...Attorney General Lynch also communicated a stern warning that the Justice Department can take criminal or civil actions against public officials who violate federal law. A new attorney general can prosecute under the alien harboring and shielding statute, a federal felony for which a convicted public official can be fined, and or imprisoned. If Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama, is confirmed as the new U.S. attorney general, it is probable these state defunding measures will be fully enforced while initiating other powerful penalties against the sanctuary state of California and its officials for violating federal law.

Guess which socialist state gets to be made the first example of? Moonbeam doing 5-10 in Lompoc would definitely be neat to read about.

Sanctuary Cities: Restricting law enforcement risks public safety
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...nctuary-cities-opposition-20170120-story.html

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Guess which socialist state gets to be made the first example of? Moonbeam doing 5-10 in Lompoc would definitely be neat to read about.

Sanctuary Cities: Restricting law enforcement risks public safety
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...nctuary-cities-opposition-20170120-story.html

Sanctuary cities already follow federal laws.

 

[OldJourno]

Saw a UC Berkley poll that showed over 70 percent of Californians oppose sanctuary cities.
I was stunned.
Vast majority of Hispanics also in opposition.

 

[renard_ruse]

The longterm question is why this is so important to a majority of legal Hispanic Americans.

I don't want 100 million god damned Lithuanians moving the the US just because I'm of Lithuanian ancestry. Not that there are that many Lithuanians, but if there were I wouldn't want them flooding in here.

How do we convince them that this is not good for them either?

 

[renard_ruse]

...Vast majority of Hispanics also in opposition.

Interesting. Let's hope so. Not good for anybody to let the whole world move here.

 

[OldJourno]

Interesting. Let's hope so. Not good for anybody to let the whole world move here.

I don't know why Americans of Hispanic descent would support not having a border. I guess I assumed they did, but it really doesn't make any sense to have that viewpoint.
The overwhelming number of Californians opposed to the idea of sanctuary cities was just stunning. It looks like a political turkey for the mayors who are drawing a line in the sand.

 

[FeeNicks]

Saw a UC Berkley poll that showed over 70 percent of Californians oppose sanctuary cities.
I was stunned.
Vast majority of Hispanics also in opposition.

what you saw was MY thread on it

grrrrrrrr

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Saw a UC Berkley poll that showed over 70 percent of Californians oppose sanctuary cities.
I was stunned.
Vast majority of Hispanics also in opposition.

I read something the other day talking about the high price of open borders and sanctuary cities in lives lost to the attempt to get to the border and lost to sweat-shop labor and human trafficking...

Here we go:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/01/trumps_wall_vs_the_devils_lottery.html

 

[JohnnySavage]

I thought we were for states rights and against unfunded mandates

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"WE?" Kimosabe...

 

[JohnnySavage]

"WE?" Kimosabe...

What's your position on this issue?

Should local tax payers be forced to pay to enforce Federal laws?

 

[tnman03]

Sanctuary cities already follow federal laws.

Really? Please elaborate.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

What's your position on this issue?

Should local tax payers be forced to pay to enforce Federal laws?

In other words, if any Federal law has a local cost associated with it, then that law is therefore null and void?

 

[JohnnySavage]

In other words, if any Federal law has a local cost associated with it, then that law is therefore null and void?

It was a yes or no question, relating to a specific issue. If you don't want to answer, that's fine. I was just curious.


For me... as of 2008 there were approximately 120,000 sworn Federal law enforcement officers. Why should my local department of two spend local resources arresting and detaining people who's only offense is breaking a Federal law?

If the Feds can't handle the work load, eliminate ICE and send that money to pay locals to do it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Because, as the article I posted earlier demonstrates, it would save lives and correct criminal injustices.



Those people keep dying and arriving only to be exploited because some Liberal enclaves have decided not to enforce Federal law. When they come, as a nation, we pay a price, not just economically, but ethically. When we welcome the less fortunate to death and to exploitation, we diminish ourselves as a people, as a nation, and as a culture. Note, that even in non-sanctuary regions of our great, yuuuge, nation, all citizens pay the taxes that support Federal law and bear the additional costs of complying with it. Declaring yourself a sanctuary does not make you the victim of additional costs born, but it does allow you to become a victimizers, as the parents of Katie Steinle would give testimony to.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

PS - I have full confidence that the FEDs can do the job as long as their leader is not ordering them to stand down...





... or else.

 

[water505]

Sanctuary cities already follow federal laws.

Harboring murderers, rapists, and child molesters?

 

[water505]

I read something the other day talking about the high price of open borders and sanctuary cities in lives lost to the attempt to get to the border and lost to sweat-shop labor and human trafficking...

Here we go:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/01/trumps_wall_vs_the_devils_lottery.html

Or the lives lost and suffering due to heroin trafficking across the open border.

 

[FeeNicks]

Harboring murderers, rapists, and child molesters?

your continual mistake is talking to a turnip

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's funny, argue that they should have sanctuary, gather them in, and then demand, why the fuck should we pay for it???



You know who thinks like that? People who live in the comfort, wealth and security of the beltway...

 

[JohnnySavage]

"THEY?" Kimosabe...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"THEY?" Kimosabe...

I'm injun you white fucking racialist.


In two threads this morning you have proved that you do not care about brown and black peoples because, you know...,



THE Clemson Don!


AND you know I mean YOU!

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'm injun you white fucking racialist.


In two threads this morning you have proved that you do not care about brown and black peoples because, you know...,



THE Clemson Don!


AND you know I mean YOU!

I don't know your ethnicity, nor do you know mine.

And in two threads this morning you have proved that your professed ideology takes a back seat to your undying support for

THE Clemson Don!


And how would I know you meant me? I live 200 miles west of the beltway. As you know as we've had this discussion before. But if you think that gets my goat, more power to ya.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Sorry.



My bad.

But why do you support the exploitation and death of brown people and black people as you keep doing this morning?

Because of ONE Orange Person?

 

[water505]

your continual mistake is talking to a turnip

Mistake?

it's pure entertainment!