How many years before the Democratic Party Splits?

[score_keeper]

There's just too many D-bags. The more progressives they get, the less likely the moderates will stay.

Once the D-bags do split, who will benefit the most?

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The Tea Baggers and 45 ruined the GOP. Worry 'bout yourself, loser.

 

[pecksniff]

The single-member-district system we use to elect legislators, federally and in every state, tends naturally to produce a two-party system. So a "split" isn't in the cards -- everyone with any experience in politics knows how futile it is to go the third-party route. The question is whether the left-progressives will take over the Democratic Party the way the Tea Partiers took over the GOP.

Buckminster Fuller, an inventor who fancied himself a philosopher, used to do a rope trick on the college lecture circuit. He had a length of silk cord, cotton cord, hemp cord spliced together; tied a loose knot at one end, slid it along, and asked "Is it still the same knot?" I'm not sure what point he was making, certainly nothing political, but political parties can work that way -- a party can substantially change its constituency and ideology and still remain the same organization with the same name and the same institutional memory.

This is simply another version of the Ship of Theseus. Or, the knife that has had three new blades and two new handles.

 

[Rightguide]

There's just too many D-bags. The more progressives they get, the less likely the moderates will stay.

Once the D-bags do split, who will benefit the most?

They'll probably migrate over to the Republican Party and despoil it further.

 

[Rightguide]

The single-member-district system we use to elect legislators, federally and in every state, tends naturally to produce a two-party system. So a "split" isn't in the cards -- everyone with any experience in politics knows how futile it is to go the third-party route. The question is whether the left-progressives will take over the Democratic Party the way the Tea Partiers took over the GOP.

Buckminster Fuller, an inventor who fancied himself a philosopher, used to do a rope trick on the college lecture circuit. He had a length of silk cord, cotton cord, hemp cord spliced together; tied a loose knot at one end, slid it along, and asked "Is it still the same knot?" I'm not sure what point he was making, certainly nothing political, but political parties can work that way -- a party can substantially change its constituency and ideology and still remain the same organization with the same name and the same institutional memory.

This is simply another version of the Ship of Theseus. Or, the knife that has had three new blades and two new handles.

Well the Democrat party has substantially changed it's constituency and ideology. It has the same name and retains it's warm institutional love for Jim Crow.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There's just too many D-bags. The more progressives they get, the less likely the moderates will stay.

Once the D-bags do split, who will benefit the most?

There aren't many liberals left in the Dem Party. They ran one of the last, Tulsi Gabbard, out on a rail.

 

[ll74]

Trumpies will split before the Democrats do.

Though they'll split the country instead of the party.

 

[pecksniff]

They'll probably migrate over to the Republican Party and despoil it further.

Wouldn't that be a helpful corrective? The Tea Partiers have turned the GOP into a populist-nationalist monster. The old-guard Pubs, mainly concerned with protecting business interests, were at least sane.

 

[Rightguide]

Wouldn't that be a helpful corrective? The Tea Partiers have turned the GOP into a populist-nationalist monster. The old-guard Pubs, mainly concerned with protecting business interests, were at least sane.

If you thought the Tea Party was something, wait until next year you haven't seen nothing yet. There is a tsunami of retribution building out there across the fruited plain.

 

[pecksniff]

If you thought the Tea Party was something, wait until next year you haven't seen nothing yet. There is a tsunami of retribution building out there across the fruited plain.

I expect voter turnout has pretty much maxed out for both parties, so what can happen that's that disruptive?

 

[phrodeau]

A two-party system has worked well for the US. Once the GOP is gone, we can have Democrats and Progressives.

 

[Rightguide]

I expect voter turnout has pretty much maxed out for both parties, so what can happen that's that disruptive?

Remember when Obama lost 63 House seats? Something along those lines and the retaking of the Senate.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Remember when Obama lost 63 House seats? Something along those lines and the retaking of the Senate.

Remember when the 'Pubs owned everything and still couldn't get anything done? Ineffectual rats.

 

[pecksniff]

Remember when Obama lost 63 House seats? Something along those lines and the retaking of the Senate.

That's no "tsunami of retribution," it's just the usual outcome of a midterm election. They tend to go against the current administration's party. It wouldn't disrupt the party system any.

 

[Rightguide]

That's no "tsunami of retribution," it's just the usual outcome of a midterm election. They tend to go against the current administration's party. It wouldn't disrupt the party system any.

That remains to be seen.

 

[phrodeau]

That remains to be seen.

Republicans have done little besides show the world that they should never be allowed to hold office again. Huge losses for the GOP are in store.