phantomrea
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how do you start? i know developing stories isnt easy it has to interest people are they all personal experiences or what im niaive im sure but i really want to know pm me if you would
how do you write
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KillerMuffin
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It starts with an idea. Then I develop the idea into something that resembles a plot and the characters that go with it. Then I start writing.
Idea:
What would happen if a guy fell in love with the bridesmaid at his sister's wedding and found out that the bridesmaid was a shemale?
Development:
Characters: Shemale, the guy, the sister, her new husband (shemale's brother), prominent relative in the guy's life who hates shemales (oh, dad).
Plot: They meet. They date. He falls in love. She reveals the big secret. He decides if he's going to go with love or with Dad.
Then I start writing:
He knew she could yell when she wanted to, but he didn’t know she could make her voice reach through the phone and box his ears. “You can’t be serious!”
“She’s my brother, Ma. She’s going to be there.”
“But, but at your wedding!”
He frowned and considered hanging up. “I still love her, even if you don’t.”
“Of course I love him. Don’t be ridiculous. He’s just a sensitive boy and I don’t want him hurt.”
“Belle’s going to be just fine.”
“<I>His</I> name is Roger. I should know, I picked it out.”
He smothered a snort of laughter. Ma hadn’t seen her little boy in a while. “She doesn’t really look like a Roger, Ma.”
“You’ve seen him?”
“She’s my twin brother, I picked her up at the airport when she came back from Sweden. She really wasn’t in any shape to drive.”
Her voice dropped to a scandalized whisper. “He didn’t, um, he didn’t get <I>it</I> cut off, did he?”
It's usuall more complex than that, but that's the gist.
Idea:
What would happen if a guy fell in love with the bridesmaid at his sister's wedding and found out that the bridesmaid was a shemale?
Development:
Characters: Shemale, the guy, the sister, her new husband (shemale's brother), prominent relative in the guy's life who hates shemales (oh, dad).
Plot: They meet. They date. He falls in love. She reveals the big secret. He decides if he's going to go with love or with Dad.
Then I start writing:
He knew she could yell when she wanted to, but he didn’t know she could make her voice reach through the phone and box his ears. “You can’t be serious!”
“She’s my brother, Ma. She’s going to be there.”
“But, but at your wedding!”
He frowned and considered hanging up. “I still love her, even if you don’t.”
“Of course I love him. Don’t be ridiculous. He’s just a sensitive boy and I don’t want him hurt.”
“Belle’s going to be just fine.”
“<I>His</I> name is Roger. I should know, I picked it out.”
He smothered a snort of laughter. Ma hadn’t seen her little boy in a while. “She doesn’t really look like a Roger, Ma.”
“You’ve seen him?”
“She’s my twin brother, I picked her up at the airport when she came back from Sweden. She really wasn’t in any shape to drive.”
Her voice dropped to a scandalized whisper. “He didn’t, um, he didn’t get <I>it</I> cut off, did he?”
It's usuall more complex than that, but that's the gist.
Uther_Pendragon
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|phantomrea said:
How do I write? I sit down at the keyboard and hit a key.
Then I hit another one. After a while, it's a story.
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How do I plot? Interesting question. Remember that there
are nine and sixty ways of composing tribal lays and
Every single one of them is RIGHT. (Kipling)
One way is to start with two characters and a conflict.
Martha says: "Not tonight,George."
George says: "Tonight!"
The story goes on from there.
Another way is to take a cliche and turn it on its head.
What happens if a schoolboy blackmails his teacher for sex,
and she gets control?
openthighs_sarah
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phantomrea said:
Every book about writing will tell you that in order to learn how to write, you have to write - and every day if possible.
It sounds ridiculous but it is very true.
If you are at such a loss as to how to begin, start by sketching out just an idea. Use index cards to list interesting characters, story ideas, or even specific scenes that inspire you.
Eventually something will take shape and you can connect these things together.
Or you could write one of your own experiences, or even a fantasy you've always had!
The stories on Lit are a mix of true life experiences, sordid fantasies, and outright insane ideas!
Good luck!
Quiet_Cool
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I'd say, just let go and start writing. If you screw up, you screw up. Mix the facts...jumble the characters...just make sure you re-write, and often. Don't set the story down until you can't bear to look at it any more.
As for organization...it's good to be organized, but all those index cards and outlines can be a bitch, especially when you're writing a good story. One that takes on its own direction and meaning. A good story can be hindered by all the constants stops to refer the lists or notes that you have. It also can be hindered by an outline that contradicts its natural flow.
When I write, I start with an idea, a very basic one. Not the whole plot, though by the time I sit down to start, by the time I can sit down to start, the idea already has taken on certain manifestations. I can see specific scenes already, but not in order, and not necessarily ones I intend to use later on. I write this piece, then that one, all while developing another part that is either before or after that which I've already written. Often I end by writing in connector pieces, to fill the holes in the story and make sense of the jumbled mess. Then, rewriting saves my ass from embarassment and puts the ideas and scenes into something that resembles a story, and hopefully a good one, though i don't think it's my place to decide whether or not they're good.
I have, on occasion, written them straight through, but not often. It just isn't my way. My stories grow in pieces instead of as a whole, and then become one in the rewriting process.
Is that what you wanted to know?
As for organization...it's good to be organized, but all those index cards and outlines can be a bitch, especially when you're writing a good story. One that takes on its own direction and meaning. A good story can be hindered by all the constants stops to refer the lists or notes that you have. It also can be hindered by an outline that contradicts its natural flow.
When I write, I start with an idea, a very basic one. Not the whole plot, though by the time I sit down to start, by the time I can sit down to start, the idea already has taken on certain manifestations. I can see specific scenes already, but not in order, and not necessarily ones I intend to use later on. I write this piece, then that one, all while developing another part that is either before or after that which I've already written. Often I end by writing in connector pieces, to fill the holes in the story and make sense of the jumbled mess. Then, rewriting saves my ass from embarassment and puts the ideas and scenes into something that resembles a story, and hopefully a good one, though i don't think it's my place to decide whether or not they're good.
I have, on occasion, written them straight through, but not often. It just isn't my way. My stories grow in pieces instead of as a whole, and then become one in the rewriting process.
Is that what you wanted to know?
SlaveMasterUK
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I usually start with characters swimming in my head, little snatches of dialogue, sometimes narration if I'm envisaging the scene rather than the characters. Its like some kind of big internal fantasy, whether it's an erotic story or not.
Then I try to think about the overall idea of the story. What's it about? Where does it begin and end? Is it going to have a complicated and compelling plot, or is it going to be a 3-page erotic short?
Once I've got the basic idea I'll start writing, bring the characters out into the open to see what they're really like. Quite often a character sits perfectly in my head but when I put him or her into type they become very bland, so I then have to spend a long time filling them out to become real.
I don't always begin at the beginning. I write my stories scene by scene, in and out of sequence. Once I know where the story is going and how I want to tell it, I start moving scenes into the right order (after all, some scenes are better told as flashbacks).
There are so many different things to consider when writing a story, but a lot don't apply to a short. If you want to write about a story where a guy fucks a girl you don't need to worry too much about plot development. Introduce the characters, tell the reader why they want to fuck, make them play, make them fuck, make them calm down with some loving dialogue, make them fuck again and then make them go to sleep in each others arms. If you want to write something longer, there's a whole lot more to consider: Where does the narration begin? Are you going to use flashbacks? Which character has the main perspective? Are you going to switch perspective? Will you go out of perspective to fill in plot points (like do you describe the trap set in the gangster's hide-out BEFORE the gumshoe gets there (build suspense), or will you wait until he arrives and gets his ass kicked (surprise the reader)?) Are you going to write a synopsis and a plot-draft, are you going to use character cards, or will you just go straight in and write the damned thing?
If you want to start writing, my advice is just do it. After all, you don't have to post it anywhere if you don't like it. But you won't ever write a good story without first writing a story. I was writing for years before I ever wrote something I was pleased with (the same applies to my music).
Also, don't start anything too big for you to finish. Perhaps start with shorts. When I started writing, I kept trying to write novels. Unless you are really dedicated and have a lot of time, it'll take you ages to do and there's the possibility of getting bored / disheartened with it and wanting to start something else. If you want to write something with a plot, start it as a basic short story. If you finish it and you're pleased with it, you can always re-write it as a novel. Remember it doesn't cost you anything but time.
I can work on an old story today, start a new one tomorrow, type it in my lunch-break, plot-draft when I can't sleep, mull over characters while I eat my breakfast, and it costs me nothing. I can sit at my computer and start a thousand stories, and each one is free. So what does it matter if I have a hundred unfinished stories?
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Then I try to think about the overall idea of the story. What's it about? Where does it begin and end? Is it going to have a complicated and compelling plot, or is it going to be a 3-page erotic short?
Once I've got the basic idea I'll start writing, bring the characters out into the open to see what they're really like. Quite often a character sits perfectly in my head but when I put him or her into type they become very bland, so I then have to spend a long time filling them out to become real.
I don't always begin at the beginning. I write my stories scene by scene, in and out of sequence. Once I know where the story is going and how I want to tell it, I start moving scenes into the right order (after all, some scenes are better told as flashbacks).
There are so many different things to consider when writing a story, but a lot don't apply to a short. If you want to write about a story where a guy fucks a girl you don't need to worry too much about plot development. Introduce the characters, tell the reader why they want to fuck, make them play, make them fuck, make them calm down with some loving dialogue, make them fuck again and then make them go to sleep in each others arms. If you want to write something longer, there's a whole lot more to consider: Where does the narration begin? Are you going to use flashbacks? Which character has the main perspective? Are you going to switch perspective? Will you go out of perspective to fill in plot points (like do you describe the trap set in the gangster's hide-out BEFORE the gumshoe gets there (build suspense), or will you wait until he arrives and gets his ass kicked (surprise the reader)?) Are you going to write a synopsis and a plot-draft, are you going to use character cards, or will you just go straight in and write the damned thing?
If you want to start writing, my advice is just do it. After all, you don't have to post it anywhere if you don't like it. But you won't ever write a good story without first writing a story. I was writing for years before I ever wrote something I was pleased with (the same applies to my music).
Also, don't start anything too big for you to finish. Perhaps start with shorts. When I started writing, I kept trying to write novels. Unless you are really dedicated and have a lot of time, it'll take you ages to do and there's the possibility of getting bored / disheartened with it and wanting to start something else. If you want to write something with a plot, start it as a basic short story. If you finish it and you're pleased with it, you can always re-write it as a novel. Remember it doesn't cost you anything but time.
I can work on an old story today, start a new one tomorrow, type it in my lunch-break, plot-draft when I can't sleep, mull over characters while I eat my breakfast, and it costs me nothing. I can sit at my computer and start a thousand stories, and each one is free. So what does it matter if I have a hundred unfinished stories?
Ax
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Take a tip from your biog. Write down some dirty thoughts. Write down your masturbatory fantasies, but don't forget to change the names. Describe yourself masturbating. Show the reader what it was that led you to masturbate in the first place. Tell some secrets. Add some lies. No one will one.
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How do I write?
With multitudinous sarcastic comments.
To be honest, it's just a case of visualising something happening in your head and describing it. This can be easier if it's a past experience, but none of my stories are based on my own sexual experiences and I've still managed to churn out 8.
Admittedly they're not very good, but still...
The Earl
With multitudinous sarcastic comments.
To be honest, it's just a case of visualising something happening in your head and describing it. This can be easier if it's a past experience, but none of my stories are based on my own sexual experiences and I've still managed to churn out 8.
Admittedly they're not very good, but still...
The Earl
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Hmmmmmmm
Like The Earl I just suddenly think of something, or remember a particular event from the past, and away I go.
Not much planning I'm afraid, just a crude tale or debauchery for the perverse element of society to enjoy.
pops...........
Like The Earl I just suddenly think of something, or remember a particular event from the past, and away I go.
Not much planning I'm afraid, just a crude tale or debauchery for the perverse element of society to enjoy.
pops...........
deliciously_naughty
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How do I start my stories?
Usually I get an inspiration from something I see in my life...example
My Sexy Stripper was inspired by the stripper who gave me a lap dance in New Orleans...I asked myself what if I'd gotten a chance to have sex with her?
The Protect and Serve stories were originally inspired by some really sexy nypd cadets I saw on the subway one morning. What would playing with one of them be like?
Among the stacks...I've always wanted to have sex in the library of a university
Once I work it out as a sexual fantasy, I usually sit down and write. That's just me....
DN
Usually I get an inspiration from something I see in my life...example
My Sexy Stripper was inspired by the stripper who gave me a lap dance in New Orleans...I asked myself what if I'd gotten a chance to have sex with her?
The Protect and Serve stories were originally inspired by some really sexy nypd cadets I saw on the subway one morning. What would playing with one of them be like?
Among the stacks...I've always wanted to have sex in the library of a university
Once I work it out as a sexual fantasy, I usually sit down and write. That's just me....
DN
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I fall into a trance, and scribble down words frantically, feeling the story and the words as much as I'm thinking it. When I wake up, I have a new story to submit to Lit.
openthighs_sarah
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Hey, Svenska, I do the trance thing too, except that when I wake up, I've usually scribbled out a prediction of a murder or a new papal succession (or both).Svenskaflicka said:I fall into a trance, and scribble down words frantically, feeling the story and the words as much as I'm thinking it. When I wake up, I have a new story to submit to Lit.
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generally speaking,
i plan nothing.
i start with a simple sentence about an object and everything else just spurts from my fingertips. lol
i am a heuristic writer.
i plan nothing.
i start with a simple sentence about an object and everything else just spurts from my fingertips. lol
i am a heuristic writer.
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openthighs_sarah said:
Hmmmm... you're writing for Erotic Horror, huh?
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Hello. I'm 3 or so weeks new to Lit. and have only written collaboratively via 'threads', but have learned already more than I expected. It's challenging *and* fun learning to respond to other writers. E.g., I've had to alter a character's opinions or traits; been thrown by another character's actions or words then figured out how to keep our so-called plot going. Sometimes it takes PMs between me and the other writer to figure out how to go on; so far it's working. Recently I almost quit a thread because the other writer was 'rushing the fuck'.
This process has been more helpful to me with this genre (erotica) than if I'd simply started writing stories (sorties) all alone for submittal.
All in all, just write and write (and read! goes hand-in-hand).
Best to you, Perdita
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To **openthighs_sarah**: love your signature! (takes me back to my idealistic youth)
This process has been more helpful to me with this genre (erotica) than if I'd simply started writing stories (sorties) all alone for submittal.
All in all, just write and write (and read! goes hand-in-hand).
Best to you, Perdita
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To **openthighs_sarah**: love your signature! (takes me back to my idealistic youth)
I'm not an expert but I do have one good principle: a good story has a conflict in it. The rest is just making it all up.
For example: guy meets girl, they fancy each other, get together, have wild sex and it ends with them falling asleep...that makes for mildly fun reading but not a good story.
It becomes a good story if there's a good reason why they can't just have wild sex right there and then. Perhaps one of them is shy or repressed. Perhaps the guy isn't normally attracted to girls, or vice versa. Perhaps one of them is a video store clerk and the other is Princess Stephanie of Monaco, et cetera.
The story is about how they get past the obstacles in the way of the good stuff. This has the bonus of making the enjoyment of the good stuff more enjoyable.
As for whether it has to be true - none of my stuff is about things I've done and I doubt that a lot of the stuff that says it is, is. Some stories look truer than others and it's usually because there's a conflict there, and the person who wrote it can really understand the nature of the conflict. Write about your own fantasies, not ones you think you ought to write about.
It's really not that hard, it's like riding a bike - keep practising and it starts to get easy. Good luck.
For example: guy meets girl, they fancy each other, get together, have wild sex and it ends with them falling asleep...that makes for mildly fun reading but not a good story.
It becomes a good story if there's a good reason why they can't just have wild sex right there and then. Perhaps one of them is shy or repressed. Perhaps the guy isn't normally attracted to girls, or vice versa. Perhaps one of them is a video store clerk and the other is Princess Stephanie of Monaco, et cetera.
The story is about how they get past the obstacles in the way of the good stuff. This has the bonus of making the enjoyment of the good stuff more enjoyable.
As for whether it has to be true - none of my stuff is about things I've done and I doubt that a lot of the stuff that says it is, is. Some stories look truer than others and it's usually because there's a conflict there, and the person who wrote it can really understand the nature of the conflict. Write about your own fantasies, not ones you think you ought to write about.
It's really not that hard, it's like riding a bike - keep practising and it starts to get easy. Good luck.
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kleve said:
I can see how this would cause a certain amount of conflict, a video store clerk would be far too high class for Princess Steph.
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gauchecritic said:
Now if the video store clerk was a transsexual who had undergone a sex change surgery but found that he/she really liked girls, afterall, and was saving up her money to have the operation reversed, and was really Princess Stephanie's long lost illegitemate brother that Prince Ranier had produced by impregnating Sophia Loren back in the 70s but who thought her father was really Redd Fox .........................
Damn. That sounds like something they would have on "The Young and the Restless." Naw, too mundane for them.
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