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how do you feel about watching people die?

dolf said:
i'm not exactly saintly though.
i'm the sort to look around and see if someone else is going to deal with it, then have the ''shit! it'll have to be me then* moment.
a better person would instantly assume they were the one who should help.
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That's totally normal to have that moment of evaluating the situation.

I don't you are saintly...but you are a good person and kudos for that, you have my admiration.
 
Peregrinator said:
Frizzle and Johnny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Stop worrying about the lawsuits and just help if you can.
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Ahh yes but there is that "reasonable assistance" bit in there that allows ambulance chasing lawyers to break it off in your ass.

Not to mention ....

"The details of good Samaritan laws/acts in various jurisdictions vary, including who is protected from liability and in what circumstances.[6] Not all jurisdictions provide protection to laypersons, in those cases only protecting trained personnel, such as doctors or nurse."

Which is exactly what got me fucked....my assistance was "above my pay grade" as it were and an ambulance chasing lawyer crucified me for it. So now I do exactly what the nice man in the funny robes told me to do. Call 911...that's it.

God forbid if next time there is a spinal injury and the car is on fire....wtf do I do then? If I touch them and they wind up paralyzed I could lose EVERYTHING, fucking EVERYTHING for saving their life. Then I will just have to kill a mother fucker for that shit.....and then everything get's messy.

Better to do what the judge said, call 911 and wait....it's just not worth the risk.
 
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Johnny_Ray_Wilson said:
I was not intent on turning dolf's thread in this direction, but yes, I do indeed agree with you on some level.

Back in the day, it was considered naturally instinctive to preserve a human life. If someone saved someone's life based upon the unselfish belief that every human life is worth saving, then the life saved would be eternally grateful. The savior would likely think they would do the same in kind for them, without a second thought nor demanding a payment of some sort.

In today's world, if you save a life, you are more likely to be sued as a way of saying thanks, but no thanks because they are alive.
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No good deed goes unpunished, and makes cowards of most people.
 
I guess it depends on who/whom the people are, and their individual situations, not an easy thing to watch in some cases.
 
I watched my grandfather flatline in the hospital after removing him from life support after a massive heart attack.
 
Peregrinator said:
Frizzle and Johnny:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

Stop worrying about the lawsuits and just help if you can.
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http://www.getsmileyface.com/new/smileys/7.gif

Been there, done that. Have an experience you want to share?

BotanyBoy said:
<---Frizzle_Fry btw...we have talked a few times.

I don't mean to undermine Dolf, I wish I could do good things and help others out when shit get's ugly. She is right....she is 100% correct in doing the right thing.

But like you said...if I'm going to get fucked for it I won't be doing the right/good thing for very long. Blame your government/society for assholes like me...I didn't get here on my own. I used to be such a nice boy...



Sorry, I wouldn't have quoted if I had known.
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What happened to Frizzle_Fry?
 
Peregrinator said:
Nope. Just pointing out that there are laws to protect bystanders who offer help.
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Speaking of, I should look those up for my state....maybe I can be less of a prick if those laws do in fact protect me in this jurisdiction.
 
Peregrinator said:
Nope. Just pointing out that there are laws to protect bystanders who offer help.
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Thank you for the shout out. Like I said though. Been there, done that. Those laws are very few and far between and they do not mean shit. People do not care if someone does good deeds theses days. Nor do they have a heart when you bury a loved one. They would rather tear you down. And behave like Disgustipated did earlier in this thread.
 
I have dealt with lots of deaths in various ways. The one that haunts me was a motorcycle accident and the victim asked me if he was going to die. I'm not a professional but due to his injuries (blood leaking out of every orifice on his head) I didn't see how he couldn't die. I lied and said he would be fine and said when the EMTs got there they would fix him up. He died before they got there while I stayed with him. I'll never know if I should have told him the truth.
 
If you want to talk about death, let's talk about cancer.

Virtually everyone dies of cancer nowadays. I think 2 in every 3 people dies from cancer. 100 years ago only about 1 in every 50 people developed cancer.

Cancer is one of the worst possible ways to die.

Cancer treatment is one of the most lucrative profit centers for drug companies, cancer clinics, and hospitals.

More likely than not (over 50% chance) YOU will die from cancer one day.

Extremely little progress has been made in curing cancer in the past 100 years or so. In fact, the disease is becoming much worse and much more common while big corporations are making hundreds of billions of dollars per year from selling toxic, ineffective, and deceptively overpriced treatments. 500 years from now we will be no closer to curing cancer than we are today.

If you walk into a cancer clinic, they are not interested in helping you, but rather they want to gouge your wallet and take you for everything you have before you die. This is a cruel and terrible scam.

The cancer industry is for-profit. In fact it is a bloated $300-400 billion dollar per year industry. If the disease was suddenly cured outright, certainly they would go completely out of business.

Millions of innocent people have to die each year to feed the financial interests of this unspeakably atrocious, deeply corrupt, and greed-fueled industry so they can yield larger returns for their investors.

The sickening depths of evil and depravity in which human beings are willing to sink to for the sake of monetary gain never ceases to awe me.
 
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Mike_Yates said:
If you want to talk about death, let's talk about cancer.

Virtually everyone dies of cancer nowadays. I think 2 in every 3 people dies from cancer. 100 years ago only about 1 in every 50 people developed cancer.

Cancer is one of the worst possible ways to die.

Cancer treatment is one of the most lucrative profit centers for drug companies, cancer clinics, and hospitals.

More likely than not (over 50% chance) YOU will die from cancer one day.

Extremely little progress has been made in curing cancer in the past 100 years or so. In fact, the disease is becoming much worse and much more common while big corporations are making hundreds of billions of dollars per year from selling toxic, ineffective, and deceptively overpriced treatments. 500 years from now we will be no closer to curing cancer than we are today.

If you walk into a cancer clinic, they are not interested in helping you, but rather they want to gouge your wallet and take you for everything you have before you die. This is a cruel and terrible scam.

The cancer industry is for-profit. In fact it is a bloated $300-400 billion dollar per year industry. If the disease was suddenly cured outright, certainly they would go completely out of business.

Millions of innocent people have to die each year to feed the financial interests of this unspeakably atrocious, deeply corrupt, and greed-fueled industry so they can yield larger returns for their investors.

The sickening depths of evil and depravity in which human beings are willing to sink to for the sake of monetary gain never ceases to awe me.
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My company holds the patent on cancer. We also have the patent on the cure. The government is aware of this and plays along because of the power we hold over people via health care. Cure cancer? Really? Do have any idea of how many people that would put out of work? It's a government jobs program.
 
run_silent said:
My company holds the patent on cancer. We also have the patent on the cure. The government is aware of this and plays along because of the power we hold over people via health care. Cure cancer? Really? Do have any idea of how many people that would put out of work? It's a government jobs program.
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Cancer has been cured many times already over the past 50-60 years. The government and medical establishment works to tirelessly to suppress this disease from being cured because it would conflict with huge financial interests.

They (the medical establishment) have even gone as far as burning down research laboratories and even outright murdering doctors and scientists involved in successfully curing cancer. One of these people is Dr. Royal Raymond Rife. You can read about him here..

http://rense.com/general31/rife.htm

They are charged in making sure that the current and immensely profitable regimen of surgery/drugs/chemotherapy IS NOT replaced by an extremely effective (and unpatentable) alternative treatment or even an outright cure. Because the current means of treating cancer is simply too lucrative.

Cancer is a huge business, and in order for a business to stay in business, they have to make a profit. These companies also have an obligation to answer to their stockholders.

Trillions of dollars in cancer treatment assets world-wide would instantly be rendered useless, oncologists would be out of work, cancer clinics would go out of business, various corporations and industries would lose countless billions and the stock market would take a nose-dive.

Billionaires, world leaders, powerful politicians, and wealthy industrial tycoons have access to secret medicine capable of curing almost every disease known to man. Of course this medicine is only available to the elites and ruling class.
 
Licia said:
Death:life. Same thing.

Suicide, OD, old age, sickness and pumping a meat suit full of chemicals to keep it floaty, 'don't lose it right now, the 'rents can't handle the corpse and you at the same time.'

Grief? Never been immune.
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blobfish said:
You may be the strangest person on the internet.
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you took the words right out of my mouth blob. she's not all there.
run_silent said:
My company holds the patent on cancer. We also have the patent on the cure. The government is aware of this and plays along because of the power we hold over people via health care. Cure cancer? Really? Do have any idea of how many people that would put out of work? It's a government jobs program.
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*coughbullshitcough*
 
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