How dark is too dark?

[AMoveableBeast]

When it comes to erotica, for you, how dark is too dark?

 

[sr71plt]

Sadomasochism is too dark for me. And graphic gratuitous violence.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Non consent is too dark for me. That includes a lot of tropes that a lot of people are fine with, and that's okay too-- just me, personally, I am uncomfortable going there.

 

[sr71plt]

I can divide nonconsent in my mind, although I can ambivalent about even that. If the story establishes beforehand that this is something the "catcher" wants but has been reluctant to go there for whatever reason, it's OK with me (it's reluctance rather than nonconsent in that case, but Lit. would put it in the nonconsent category). It's important for me as a reader to be convinced that the "pitcher" has correctly discerned that it's reluctance rather than nonconsent, though.

As I've noted before, flatly zeroing out on nonconsent doesn't work too well at least for GM stories. Nonconsent is an assuagement of guilt game in the GM world, so it isn't the "no" you often have to look for, it's all of the other factors that might reveal the "no" is more of a "take the guilt away from me" response.

What I can't say is that my "it's hot" button will shrivel at encountering nonconsent as it would at sadomasochism and graphic physical violence.

 

[lovecraft68]

Flat out rape is too dark for me. I can handle sex as rough as you can possibly come up with, but it has to be consensual.

I'm okay with humiliation and reluctance is okay as long as the "victim" has the choice of whether or not to accept it.

But pure rape is too much.

On the other hand graphic violence of any other kind doesn't bother me.

 

[oggbashan]

My story Donna.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Non consent is too dark for me. That includes a lot of tropes that a lot of people are fine with, and that's okay too-- just me, personally, I am uncomfortable going there.

Non-consent is totally my fave. Almost nothing is too dark. The more uncomfortable it makes me the more it tends to turn me on.

 

[lovecraft68]

Non-consent is totally my fave. Almost nothing is too dark. The more uncomfortable it makes me the more it tends to turn me on.

YOu should check out the site asstr then. Only rule there is there are no rules.

 

[sweetnpetite]

YOu should check out the site asstr then. Only rule there is there are no rules.

woah that's hardcore! (ok... some things may be a bit to dark but not gonna say which ones, lol, cuz that will tell ya which ones aint )

 

[lovecraft68]

woah that's hardcore! (ok... some things may be a bit to dark but not gonna say which ones, lol, cuz that will tell ya which ones aint )

Guilt by omission!

Hey, to each their own, but I draw the line on bestiality and gang rapes involving 13 year olds.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Guilt by omission!

Hey, to each their own, but I draw the line on bestiality and gang rapes involving 13 year olds.

Good call!!!

 

[Stella_Omega]

I love humiliation-- when it's been asked for. Gang bangs-- as long as the center has been active in setting it up. In fact people asking for things where the begging could be humiliating is, in itself, a bit of a kink for me.

Reluctance is fine too, and I just recently read something in which the young, naive bottom was totally stoned out of his mind and very enthusiastic-- but he knew that the pills he was taking would do that, and OMG SO HAWT. So, Magic Sex Pollen stories, I'm good with that.

I love the grey areas, I grab at them like a drowning man-- and there are stories that include rape or slavery or torture or whatever, as part of the plot or motivation-- but when there really is a zero amount of consent in the primary, I guess, sex scenes, I don't want to read that.

 

[MSTarot]

Oh I love this question.

I like it when the whole of the story is dark not just when the sex is rough or wrong or twisted or whatever you like to call it.

I want to read stories that would not be out of place on the Edgar Allen Poe shelf. Say snuggled in somewhere between Lovecraft (the original not you LC though some of yours are there too) and the story of 'O'

What is forbiden? Under age, certainly. though some of the old victorian erotica are dark and about characters less than eighteen.

I don't care for the reality of rape, but fantasy rough as hell sex sure. The only place the reality has in a story is as part of a plot. There to drive story not titalate.

beastiality not really my kind of thing at all.

But dark?

That's one of those one man's dark is another man's normal sex. hard to call.

I have three stories that are what I think of as dark. None have gotten good scores, but I still think they are all good stories that got across the point I was tryign to make.

http://www.literotica.com/s/a-grimm-tribute (a sister made to do oral sex at gun point)

http://www.literotica.com/s/shivering-1 (older brother uses younger sister because he's mad at her)

http://www.literotica.com/s/lord-of-devils-night ( mentaly sick and posessed man has sex with a fire)

They are not sunshine and light by a far measure.

M.S.Tarot

Yes I said sex with a fire.

 

[HisPet21]

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[litfan10]

I love my Lit work and readings to be very benign. I come here both to read and write for escape which for me is light-hearted.

I love Edgar Allan Poe and in my nonLit work I love exploring what makes out-there minds tick - the more deviant the better and that goes down very dark roads.

As for sex, I agree non-consent and underage is just not for me.

I remember reading way back in the seventies in an interview in Penthouse Magazine a young and up coming porn star was asked about her limits. Only bestiality on the grounds that nobody could really ask the dog if it wanted to fuck her so for her that was nonconsent. Interesting how the mind works.

 

[slyc_willie]

I'm certainly game to read just about anything. I may have to be in a particular mood for a particular kind of story, but my "dark meter" is set pretty damn high, I've noticed.

I guess I like to see how far I can be pushed before I get completely turned off. While I don't want to read about children being abused in any way, if it comes up in a story and adds to it (and what that, exactly, means, is on a case by case basis), I'll accept it and let it affect me the way I assume the author wanted it to.

Some of my writing on Lit has been a little dark. I think many of us like to indulge our dark sides once in a while, and for me personally, I don't think I could be a good writer without understanding that I have some pretty morbid, destructive, and perverse thoughts from time to time and they have a tendency to filter in to my writing.

For instance, in an attempt to illustrate just how evil and unrepentant a villain was in one of my stories -- a fantasy chain story I was in a few years ago -- I wrote in a scene in which a young boy approaches my villain and learns he is a wizard. Convincing the boy that he is a good wizard, my villain is lead to the house where the sickly mother is comatose in bed. With his knowledge of herbs and other "mystical" sciences, my villain could have concocted a potion that would restore the boy's mother to health.

Instead, he tells the boy how to make a potion that will heal his mother, when in reality, it is a poison that will kill the woman by dawn. My villain delights in the idea of manipulating this desperate, impressionable child to murder his own mother.

I got a couple of hate mails on that one.

Dark, certainly. And I can't deny that I actually enjoyed writing the scene, for it's own sake. Maybe that says something about my personality or psychology; I really can't say, nor would I care to guess. I'm just a writer; I write what comes to mind, and if it means getting my hands dirty nad making myself cringe, oh well.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I'm certainly game to read just about anything. I may have to be in a particular mood for a particular kind of story, but my "dark meter" is set pretty damn high, I've noticed.

I guess I like to see how far I can be pushed before I get completely turned off. While I don't want to read about children being abused in any way, if it comes up in a story and adds to it (and what that, exactly, means, is on a case by case basis), I'll accept it and let it affect me the way I assume the author wanted it to.

Some of my writing on Lit has been a little dark. I think many of us like to indulge our dark sides once in a while, and for me personally, I don't think I could be a good writer without understanding that I have some pretty morbid, destructive, and perverse thoughts from time to time and they have a tendency to filter in to my writing.

For instance, in an attempt to illustrate just how evil and unrepentant a villain was in one of my stories -- a fantasy chain story I was in a few years ago -- I wrote in a scene in which a young boy approaches my villain and learns he is a wizard. Convincing the boy that he is a good wizard, my villain is lead to the house where the sickly mother is comatose in bed. With his knowledge of herbs and other "mystical" sciences, my villain could have concocted a potion that would restore the boy's mother to health.

Instead, he tells the boy how to make a potion that will heal his mother, when in reality, it is a poison that will kill the woman by dawn. My villain delights in the idea of manipulating this desperate, impressionable child to murder his own mother.

I got a couple of hate mails on that one.

Dark, certainly. And I can't deny that I actually enjoyed writing the scene, for it's own sake. Maybe that says something about my personality or psychology; I really can't say, nor would I care to guess. I'm just a writer; I write what comes to mind, and if it means getting my hands dirty nad making myself cringe, oh well.

I May have to read some of your stuff.

 

[slyc_willie]

I May have to read some of your stuff.

I have a broad mix. But if you like it dark, what I'm writing now is definitely up that alley. My wife won't even read it -- after I gave her the gist of the story -- and she writes bloody vampire/werewolf fiction with lots of revenge killings.

ETA: You might like Shock Radio from my story list.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I have a broad mix. But if you like it dark, what I'm writing now is definitely up that alley. My wife won't even read it -- after I gave her the gist of the story -- and she writes bloody vampire/werewolf fiction with lots of revenge killings.

inbox me

 

[slyc_willie]

inbox me

Now, that just sounds kinky.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Now, that just sounds kinky.

as u wish

 

[sweetnpetite]

but i really just meant with the details of your story

 

[slyc_willie]

but i really just meant with the details of your story

You'll have to wait 'til I post it.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

if it's fiction, there's no such thing as too dark. might not be to taste, but ...

 

[sweetnpetite]

You'll have to wait 'til I post it.

tease...