Hot Tag

[johndoe2007]

I've been on Literotica for awhile now and out of sheer curiosity. Does anyone know what percentage of stories obtain a "H" tag next to them? I know what you have to do to get one but I'm just curious about how many stories get them.

It's just a tiny bit of trivia I've been thinking about for awhile now.

 

[ChrystalWynd]

Actually, I'm curious to know how a story obtains the "H" tag. If it's in an obvious place, I apologize. I'm still learning how to navigate around this site.

 

[sr71plt]

There's no relevance or rhyme or reason between hot tags and percentages of stories. Stories go hot when they have at least 10 votes and hit a 4.5 rating. If additional new votes take the rating down, the stories lose the H until/unless more new 5-rating votes bring it up. It all depends on how many vote what rating, which is entirely out of anyone's purposeful control (unless they have a bank of computers on separate ISPs at their disposal).

In the past several months, the H's have been going down because the Web site has put in more stringent filters to combat multiple voting--even the archived stories have been swept and continue to be swept.

 

[Lalah]

And it's possible for even just a small handful of people to vote 1 and make a story lose it's H. It often doesn't take much, so the H isn't necessarily an indicative of quality. Some are without it and are still very good.

 

[sr71plt]

And it's possible for even just a small handful of people to vote 1 and make a story lose it's H. It often doesn't take much, so the H isn't necessarily an indicative of quality. Some are without it and are still very good.

Heck, they can bury you with 4s. The hot level is set very high here.

 

[The_Fractal_King]

I've been on Literotica for awhile now and out of sheer curiosity. Does anyone know what percentage of stories obtain a "H" tag next to them? I know what you have to do to get one but I'm just curious about how many stories get them.

It's just a tiny bit of trivia I've been thinking about for awhile now.

Find a good math student to come up with the percentage of grades that would go above 90% in a normal distribution and then slash that in half.

To get an H a story needs a rating of 4.5+ and ten or more votes. Some parts of the site won't get all the way up to ten votes due to low traffic (as will many stories that either start on page two of New Stories or doesn't pass through New Stories due to a move). Worse, the only vote that moves a story towards getting an H is a perfect score of 5 which means that a majority of votes on the story must deem it as one of the readers all time favorite stories.

The difficulty of getting an H is probably intentional on the part of the Admins (when you get one it makes you feel all fuzzy inside because it isn't easy to get), or simply a result of making the rating require the story to get a grade equivalent to an A.

 

[Carnevil9]

Find a good math student to come up with the percentage of grades that would go above 90% in a normal distribution and then slash that in half.

Actually, you can't apply a normal distribution without a standard deviation (aka, "sigma"), and there is no sigma in this situation. And the assumption of a standard deviation is untenable in the first place, since we have a hard upper and lower limit.

However, if you want to force a normal distribution, you could make the (frequently used) assumption that virtually all data lies within plus and minus three standard deviations, making sigma equal to 4/6 (4 because it's the highest score minus the lowest score, and 6 because that's the range of -3 to +3 sigmas) or .66667. Then, a score of 4.5 is equivalent to 2.25 sigmas above the mean. A standard normal table tells you that 1.22% of the distribution is above that level. So, this line of reasoning would imply that 1.22% of all stories get the coveted H. But there are an awful lot of assumptions in there.

Also, I've noticed that it isn't really the best stories that get the H, but the sexiest stories. Some stories that I consider extremely well written get more modest scores, but since they don't have a high stroke-factor, they don't generate a lot of 5 votes.

Just one geek's opinion......Carney

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Carney's right, mathematically, but that's not how the system works. You have to think more along opinion polling sites where the question often dictates the answer. 'Would you vote for X if you knew he beat his wife?' Result - 99% say they won't vote for X.

True, 10 votes and an average 4.5 or above gives you a pink square, but Manu tweaked the voting system a few months back to make sure fewer stories passed the line.

Also, voting in each category follows different patterns. Some are generous and some very critical.

I think, overall, if you write a good story - with the right amount of sex for the category - you stand a pretty good chance of the pink square.

 

[The_Fractal_King]

Actually, you can't apply a normal distribution without a standard deviation (aka, "sigma"), and there is no sigma in this situation. And the assumption of a standard deviation is untenable in the first place, since we have a hard upper and lower limit.

However, if you want to force a normal distribution, you could make the (frequently used) assumption that virtually all data lies within plus and minus three standard deviations, making sigma equal to 4/6 (4 because it's the highest score minus the lowest score, and 6 because that's the range of -3 to +3 sigmas) or .66667. Then, a score of 4.5 is equivalent to 2.25 sigmas above the mean. A standard normal table tells you that 1.22% of the distribution is above that level. So, this line of reasoning would imply that 1.22% of all stories get the coveted H. But there are an awful lot of assumptions in there.

And thus I utterly failed at math class.

 

[Carnevil9]

......Manu tweaked the voting system a few months back to make sure fewer stories passed the line......

Really? What did he change?

I used to get a lot of H stories, now very few. I don't think my writing has gotten worse (I don't think it could!) so I've wondered what changed......Carney

 

[TxRad]

Really? What did he change?

I used to get a lot of H stories, now very few. I don't think my writing has gotten worse (I don't think it could!) so I've wondered what changed......Carney

Go read the tags for the five stars on the vote page for all stories. That will answer your question, me thinks.

 

[ChrystalWynd]

Thank you for the information. This views on this thread have been interesting.

CW

 

[PrincessErin]

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[Carnevil9]

Go read the tags for the five stars on the vote page for all stories. That will answer your question, me thinks.

Okay, I've tried to decipher this little scavenger hunt you sent me on. Nothing becomes obvious. Of the three stories with perfect 5 scores, no tags appear on all stories. Color me confused.

Perhaps you would consider being less inscrutable and more explicit.....Carney

 

[sr71plt]

Okay, I've tried to decipher this little scavenger hunt you sent me on. Nothing becomes obvious. Of the three stories with perfect 5 scores, no tags appear on all stories. Color me confused.

Perhaps you would consider being less inscrutable and more explicit.....Carney

Go to any story at all on the story list; go to the end of the story. There are five stars, numbered from one through five. Put your cursor on star number five. The following slug will appear: "Loved it - One of the Best."

This is a relatively new wording. Before, the highest rating choice just said something like "great." That's a lot different than "one of the best," and the new wording invites lower-ranked voting.

 

[TxRad]

Okay, I've tried to decipher this little scavenger hunt you sent me on. Nothing becomes obvious. Of the three stories with perfect 5 scores, no tags appear on all stories. Color me confused.

Perhaps you would consider being less inscrutable and more explicit.....Carney

Sorry, I should have left the "all stories" part off.

sr got it right, the wording on the voting stars is weighted toward a three or a four more so than before, was the point I was trying to make.

 

[Carnevil9]

Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.....Carney