Honest opinion

[Pleasuretiger]

There are so many fantasy, suggestions, about incest, rape, bi-sex that comes in threesome, foursome, bdsm and gang bang. Yet in real life situation, how many could cheat on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

 

[Duleigh]

Chest?

 

[ElectricBlue]

Chest?

Cheat...

 

[Duleigh]

Chest has some interesting possibilities...

 

[Pleasuretiger]

Chest?

sorry, spelling error

 

[EmilyMiller]

There are so many fantasy, suggestions, about incest, rape, bi-sex that comes in threesome, foursome, bdsm and gang bang. Yet in real life situation, how many could chest on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

I’m boring and monogamous now. Back in the day…

Interesting you lump Incest, rape and bi-sex (never saw that contraction) together. Very, very, very different things.

So historically (some of these not in the last four years, most not in the last two years, only mild BDSM of late):

1. Incest - no
2. Rape - FFS no - please think about what you are saying
3. ”Bi-sex” - yes
4. Threesomes (MMF and MFF) - yes
5. Foursomes (MMMF) - yes
6. BDSM - yes
7. Gang bangs - yes

Em

 

[Lifestyle66]

There are so many fantasy, suggestions, about incest, rape, bi-sex that comes in threesome, foursome, bdsm and gang bang. Yet in real life situation, how many could cheat on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

Years ago, the web site "Ashley Madison" was hacked and published the names of over 2 million accounts of mostly men trying to find extra-marital sex with women. There were even about 1,700 of those accounts who were wives.

There are various swinger web sites with millions of accounts on each. And these are just the "tip of the iceberg" of the most obvious web sites.

I would think the majority of people WILLING to share their spouse far exceeds those who are proactively trying to do so.

 

[Duleigh]

1. Chest - if her breasts were large enough and she would push them together...
2. Incest - I don't think a fifth cousin counts.
3. Rape - my first wife was raped by an uncle. Rapists die in my stories
4. Bi-sex - nope
5. Bondage - oh yeah
6. S&M - a little, not a real turn on at all.
7. Threesomes - occasionally
8. Moresomes - no. Too many scheduling issues

 

[EmilyMiller]

3. Rape - my first wife was raped by an uncle. Rapists die in my stories

 

[Duleigh]

In my military career I never lived in base housing, however my friends told me about the "White Rock Club" it was a swingers club. If you border your garden with large rocks painted white it meant that you were "open." Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I know of several wives that painted one side of the rock white and would flip the rock over when her husband was deployed overseas.

 

[Lifestyle66]

.... Yet in real life situation, how many could cheat on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

In real life:

How many men could angrily beat their wife?
How many wives could angrily throw something at their husband?
How many married men or women fantasize about having sex with someone else?
How many love their spouse and want them to be happy, giving their spouse everything they can?

Regardless of the reasons, it DOES happen in marriages, and more often than you might think even in stable long-lasting marriages.

Then ask yourself the questions: How many could angrily walk out of their house seeking someone else to fuck, feeling like it's a justified revenge for whatever the spouse did to cause the anger?
How many love and trust their spouse enough to allow them to act out a fantasy?

I weave these themes into my swinger stories. Try reading "The Real Gift: Her Fantasy".

 

[onehitwanda]

how many could cheat on their partner

I was young and stupid once and cheated on someone in the dying gasps of a relationship. I could attempt to deflect blame, say it was only once, say it didn't mean anything, that I was desperate to be wanted, to be touched...

But I crossed that line. Once, but once was too many times, wasn't it. Even now, several lifetimes later, I still feel shame about it and what it did to the other person.

So could I, would I?

Not again, no.

Anyone I'm with gets the story of what I did and how I feel about it. Along with all my other skellingtons - such as they are.

Ultimately I have to be able to meet my eyes in the mirror every morning. And it's already hard enough to do that some days as it is.

 

[Lifestyle66]

In my military career I never lived in base housing, however my friends told me about the "White Rock Club" it was a swingers club. If you border your garden with large rocks painted white it meant that you were "open." Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I know of several wives that painted one side of the rock white and would flip the rock over when her husband was deployed overseas.

The "white rock" story was an article written in The Washington Post well over a decade ago. Supposedly, houses with white rocks out front in a certain community meant they were swingers.

In reality, that's unlikely to be true, and probably dreamed up by someone to stigmatize a few neighbors they didn't like.

In reality, when military units deployed, spouses wouldn't just answer the door to allow a line full of strangers to enter to fuck. The now free spouse would head out to some local nightclub to pick up a lover. "Back in the Day" at Fort Bragg, that club was called "The Dragon Club". It was a very real NCO club on Fort Bragg which had country western bands playing on weekends, and it was suspiciously more active with unaccompanied women soon after a battalion of the 82nd Abn Div deployed.

 

[alohadave]

In reality, that's unlikely to be true, and probably dreamed up by someone to stigmatize a few neighbors they didn't like.

It's probably as likely as upside down pineapples in your shopping cart. According to the internet if you walk around a grocery store with an upside down pineapple, you are a swinger signaling other swingers.

 

[alohadave]

In reality, when military units deployed, spouses wouldn't just answer the door to allow a line full of strangers to enter to fuck. The now free spouse would head out to some local nightclub to pick up a lover.

There always seems to be a Dick's Last Resort that the WestPac Widows congregate at. At least in the stories told on ship.

 

[TxRad]

I guess some people have ever heard of fiction. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Duleigh]

The "white rock" story was an article written in The Washington Post well over a decade ago. Supposedly, houses with white rocks out front in a certain community meant they were swingers.

In reality, that's unlikely to be true, and probably dreamed up by someone to stigmatize a few neighbors they didn't like.

In reality, when military units deployed, spouses wouldn't just answer the door to allow a line full of strangers to enter to fuck. The now free spouse would head out to some local nightclub to pick up a lover. "Back in the Day" at Fort Bragg, that club was called "The Dragon Club". It was a very real NCO club on Fort Bragg which had country western bands playing on weekends, and it was suspiciously more active with unaccompanied women soon after a battalion of the 82nd Abn Div deployed.

If the now free spouse entered an NCO club in the locations where I was stationed, she would be recognized, so that was out. My guys looked out for each other, of course that wouldn't prevent moving in with a buddy's wife while said buddy was in the sandbox. It was never "a line full of strangers" it was always someone they knew but in a different unit. I was in the most mobilized flying unit in the USAF including special forces units and I can assure you that we watched out for each other's families by canvasing clubs.

I don't know how Army ran things but, in the USAF, the "White Rock Club" and variations were a very real thing once upon a time. I remember a captain telling me how his wife punched an attempted suitor after she painted the rocks around her garden and inadvertently selected the 'color of the month.' "Back in the day" the Strategic Air Command had bomber crews spending a huge part of their career in secured facilities for weeks at a time waiting on the call to launch. Base commanders actually allowed conjugal visits in an effort to keep the "white rock club" at bay. One base I was at had deliveries of soft drinks in base housing, you just put a Coke sign in your front window for delivery. You put the sign in your window upside down for another form of delivery.

 

[lc69hunter]

There are so many fantasy, suggestions, about incest, rape, bi-sex that comes in threesome, foursome, bdsm and gang bang. Yet in real life situation, how many could cheat on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

In my younger days, I played a lot with married couples, both in a sharing way and in a cuckold way. My second wife and I would occasionally bring another woman or man into our bed, and I basically told her that a random one off (an opportunity fuck) was not a threat to me, her, or our marriage. Not everybody can handle that sort of relationship. We were lucky in that regard

 

[Lifestyle66]

If the now free spouse entered an NCO club in the locations where I was stationed, she would be recognized, so that was out. My guys looked out for each other, of course that wouldn't prevent moving in with a buddy's wife while said buddy was in the sandbox. It was never "a line full of strangers" it was always someone they knew but in a different unit. I was in the most mobilized flying unit in the USAF including special forces units and I can assure you that we watched out for each other's families by canvasing clubs.

I don't know how Army ran things but, in the USAF, the "White Rock Club" and variations were a very real thing once upon a time. I remember a captain telling me how his wife punched an attempted suitor after she painted the rocks around her garden and inadvertently selected the 'color of the month.' "Back in the day" the Strategic Air Command had bomber crews spending a huge part of their career in secured facilities for weeks at a time waiting on the call to launch. Base commanders actually allowed conjugal visits in an effort to keep the "white rock club" at bay. One base I was at had deliveries of soft drinks in base housing, you just put a Coke sign in your front window for delivery. You put the sign in your window upside down for another form of delivery.

It sounds like you were stationed at smaller bases, where many of the airmen knew each other.

Ft Bragg and the adjacent Pope AFB held the 82nd Abn Division (18,000 soldiers), the 18th Abn Corp and Corp Support Command, and a C-130 Wing. Altogether, there were about 30,000 military members. That base is in reality a self-contained small city. So, there's a little more anonymity there, ... EXCEPT if a wife tried to bring someone into her on-base house!

The families in base housing all knew each other in their small house sections, and rumors of late-night visitors would be too risky for a wife. Her neighbors would eventually rat her out. She was safer going to the local clubs for a rendezvous with a lover, or to pick up a guy for a quickie.

The whole concept of the "white rock", upside-down coke can, or upside-down pineapple comes from spy tradecraft. It's known in the trade as a "load signal" or "safe signal". The signal in a window is actually more practical, because it doesn't require the wife to go outside, and risk being spotted turning a rock over. The signal of something different in a window can be seen at a distance for the lover to know it's safe. The wife can quickly change it if needed without going outside. But still, in small insular housing sections even on the large base, it would be risky for a wife to invite her lover into her home. Although, it's probably happened a few times, because some people are slow learners.

But I doubt that Washington Post "white rock" story about swingers, because there would be no purpose served to advertise that they are swingers in such a way. What stranger would really walk up to a house door to knock on the door and say, "I see you have white rocks; do you want to fuck?" And who would answer such a question to a stranger at the front door saying, "Of course, that's why we painted them white. Come in."

 

[alohadave]

What stranger would really walk up to a house door to knock on the door and say, "I see you have white rocks; do you want to fuck?"

Bow chick a wow wow

 

[Lifestyle66]

There are so many fantasy, suggestions, about incest, rape, bi-sex that comes in threesome, foursome, bdsm and gang bang. Yet in real life situation, how many could cheat on their partner and how many couples are willing to share their spouse in these activities?

While Duleigh and I and some of the other ex-military might disagree on the logistics and signals sent for such extra-marital trysts, I think we do agree that is far more common than some "monogamous only" people believe.

 

[Euphony]

While Duleigh and I and some of the other ex-military might disagree on the logistics and signals sent for such extra-marital trysts, I think we do agree that is far more common than some "monogamous only" people believe.

It always surprises me just how judgy and sure of the social state of affairs authors of the AH can get.

Ostensibly, many (most?) should be more open minded/empathetic to minority categories and/or fetishes but a few threads lately throw doubt on that.

Vanilla doesn't begin to describe my level of milquetoast but it never occurs to me to clutch pearls and debate publicly "how could someone evvvvver?"

Empathy is a necessity for my better characters.

Nothing quite like having your muse paint you into an uncomfortable space you have to settle, even compromise with, with your own creation.

 

[Lifestyle66]

It always surprises me just how judgy and sure of the social state of affairs authors of the AH can get.

Ostensibly, many (most?) should be more open minded/empathetic to minority categories and/or fetishes but a few threads lately throw doubt on that.

Vanilla doesn't begin to describe my level of milquetoast but it never occurs to me to clutch pearls and debate publicly "how could someone evvvvver?"

Empathy is a necessity for my better characters.

Nothing quite like having your muse paint you into an uncomfortable space you have to settle, even compromise with, with your own creation.

As I have experienced so many varying lifestyles among friends and numerous family members (I have quite a number of aunts, uncles, and first cousins), and after so many decades listening to others describe their personal preferences, I've readily accepted the concept that: "It takes all kinds."

I don't judge, because some are just different, coming from a drastically different background of experiences than I had to shape both of us to be who we are.

So, let's help those who might seriously ask "how could someone evvvver?" by trying to write the stories saying "imagine this ..."

 

[Euphony]

So, let's help those who might seriously ask "how could someone evvvver?" by trying to write the stories saying "imagine this ..."

What truly confounds is when someone writes something outside the usual tropes, how quick to "it's clearly exaggerated fiction" judge fellow authors can become.

Aren't we supposed to write the unique experiences in life? Isn't that what inspires and what makes a story worth telling/reading?

I have a handful of authors I read whose interest are so outside my norms yet their writing strength and ability is so beyond my own, I am compelled to make the emotional space needed to read them.

Sure, it requires deliberate work on my part but it's hardly a slog.

And my writing ability and reading empathy are improved after.

Worth the effort every time.

 

[tenyari]

I would think the majority of people WILLING to share their spouse far exceeds those who are proactively trying to do so.

Social stigma. "he young folks" have it right by so often declaring themselves polyamorous. That fits more with human nature.

STDs and childcare form strong reasons to remain in secure bonds, but human nature trends otherwise for the simple reason of greater reproductive success.

It's debatable but I suspect that if we trended towards embracing committed polyamorous as the norm, STDs might go down. As in, if everyone was in a 'marriage of 4 to 6 people' they might find it a lot easier to resist the urge to 'covertly branch out' as long as it was 'gender balanced' when it was hetero or bi folks - so everyone had the same potential access to the same number of partners. Monogamy encourages risky conduct by making 'outlets' taboo.