Homer's Iliad

[rosco rathbone]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

 

[Sean]

Greeks. All about the hacking and sodomy.

 

[LauraSole]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

True that. Had to read some parts.

ONLY THROUGH BATTLE YOU'LL BE A MAN - I guess that was the mentality of ancient greece.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The value system of the Classical world glorified violence. West of India and before Jesus, I've never heard of a pacifist from that period.

 

[Hard_Rom]

War, glory and fate!

 

[Libsam]

What was the second thing that struck you?
Agamemnon's awesome scepter?

 

[thør]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

There must be some glory in the wholesale manufacture of the battlefield stench of the era; shit and rotting flesh.

 

[Lancecastor]

Seth McFarlane has a twisted sense of humor, that's for sure.

 

[hashtag46]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

The poem or Cliff notes or the movie?

 

[Ms_Ann]

What was the second thing that struck you?
Agamemnon's awesome scepter?

*snerk*

 

[Ovidius]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

Don't forget the part about human sacrifice.

And yes, it does glorify violence. That is the point. The ancient world was a very different place, just think of the gladiatorial games in Rome. If you wanted a seat at the table in the ancient elite culture, you had to be very, very violent.

What has changed is the rhetoric. The thing that makes me detest, despise, people like Bush, Obama and H. Clinton is their hypocrisy. If they want to start wars, bomb civilians, drone people left and right, and kill thousands of little babies they should say so. Then I might at least have had som respect for them.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

lmao...


And there's an orgy!

 

[Conager]

So the first thing that struck me was how violent it is. I know it's about a war and all that, but it's almost as if they're glorifying violence.

NC-17?

 

[Ovidius]

What has changed is the rhetoric. The thing that makes me detest, despise, people like Bush, Obama and H. Clinton is their hypocrisy. If they want to start wars, bomb civilians, drone people left and right, and kill thousands of little babies they should say so. Then I might at least have had som respect for them.

No, I have to take that back. If that is what you want to do, then it is something for which you simply cannot stand in public. You must deceive.

So, there we are.

 

[rosco rathbone]

lmao...


And there's an orgy!

............

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Men are pigs...

 

[ryan8558]

I smell bacon.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

How selfish for only one person to her the Siren's song...

 

[ryan8558]

How selfish for only one person to her the Siren's song...

different epic poem. please put that in the Odyssey thread.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I always associate the two because they are usually published together as The Iliad and the Odyssey...

 

[Ms_Ann]

I think I read it in the 4th grade.

 

[oggbashan]

Reciting the Catalogue of Ships in the original Greek is supposed to be an incantation to pacify the Gods.

It doesn't work but sounds marvellous.

 

[Ovidius]

I think I read it in the 4th grade.

And that is when you started to contemplate a career as the sex slave of a conquering hero?

 

[Ms_Ann]

And that is when you started to contemplate a career as the sex slave of a conquering hero?

Heroes are hard to come by these days.

 

[Ovidius]

Heroes are hard to come by these days.

Achilles is an ideal to strive for. And maybe so is Briseis?

All we can do is try.