Historical Sex, Anytime

[Svenskaflicka]

I like the threads about historical sex, in the Wild West and Ancient Rome, respectively. I agree, we should have much more historical stories, with long bejewelled dresses and roll in the hay lofts in the countryside, and knights stepping out of their shining armours.

In addition to the above mentioned times, I'd like to inspire people to come up with ideas for other time periods/geographic locations as well.

STONE AGE
A cave man clubs a woman in the head, grabs her by the hair, and drags her into the cave to have sex with her.

BEGINNING OF 1000
The different tribes are fighting over where the borders should be. During one of the battles, the hero of the story, a good-looking, strong, brutish but good-hearted type, notice that the enemy warrior he's about to defeat is a woman. He takes her back as his prisoner, and finds out that she's the daughter of the enemy chief, a headstrong wench who's eager to prove that she's just as good as a son. So, they have another battle - in bed.

MIDDLE AGES
In these days, the family consisted of many generations. How about a story about a family where the men have lost their wives due to the plague, and so they decide that the last remaining wife should take care of her husband's brothers as well.


RENAISSANCE
Europe is in bloom. Art, literature, music and science is very popular, and people aren't as depressed and fanatically religious as in the middle ages. Here we can have stories about a musician and his muse, a painter and his model, or something like Decamerone by Boccacio, that Italian erotic novel, where a group of men and women tell each other short erotic stories. How about a story where the men and women not only tell each other erotic stories, but act them out as well?

REGENCY
England in the 1800. Regency bucks courting both ladies and demi-mondes. A noble lady keeps up a good appearance, while she's having a hot affaire de coeur with a handsome lord. They pretend to dislike each other, but in secret, they sneak away together at every ball, to have sex where they risk getting caught, where they risk ruining the lady's reputation forever. What if someone DOES catch them, but agrees not to tell, if he/she can join in?

These are off the top of my head. But I thnk these story periods can be interesting and inspiring, don't you?

 

[MightyZor]

I really like historical stories too. Especially if there is a good describtion of the outfits. I find women in dresses sexy an dmost women now wear jeans, so that's very exciting.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I feel the same way about men in kilts... mmmmm, easy access...

 

[NASCARaddicted]

What about Casanova ? He lived from 1725 to 1798, and he fucked many women. So maybe a fictonal chapter about his life could be a good story.

And as far as I know: besides many other women, Casanova also had sex with a nun and with one (or with 2 ?) of his own daughters .... so I guess, if anyone wants to write a story about Casanova, there are almost no limits, when it comes to possible sex partners ....

 

[Sabledrake]

Good ideas, Svenskaflicka!

I'd like to add highwayman/rogue/pirate stories to the list

Sabledrake

 

[NASCARaddicted]

oh, and what about Christopher Columbus ?

Just think about the first contact between him (and his crew) and the native indians ....

Or (I don't know the exact term): the time between about 1500 to 1700 - back then, many women were accused of being witches ....

 

[Chicklet]

Good ideas, Svenskaflicka!

I'd like to add highwayman/rogue/pirate stories to the list

Sabledrake

nod nod

yes yes

pirates...yum

 

[deliciously_naughty]

oh, and what about Christopher Columbus ?

Just think about the first contact between him (and his crew) and the native indians ....

Or (I don't know the exact term): the time between about 1500 to 1700 - back then, many women were accused of being witches ....

If you're talking about the witch crazes, they happenned at different times in europe and in the americas.

The witch trials...I often think that some women were most likely accused for not giving in sexually (rather plausible).

I also think the jazz age would be a great backdrop

 

[rounder03]

Excellent, excellent ideas, Svenskaflicka! I especially like the Middle Ages Time period...whether realistic tales such as you suggested or King Arthur/Prince Valiant-type tales in which magic can occur (some of the plots we read in high school were pretty hot...a virgin being transformed in appearance to trick a knight into having sex with her; Lancelot's adultery with Guienvere; Arthur's incestuous sex with his half-sister, etc. Many other arousing situations were discussed...Tennyson & others just left it up to Literotica authors to fill in the details).
I also have an idea for a pirate story in which three aristocratic siblings (sisters and brother) are captured along with their maids and manservant. Theatened with gangrape, the beautiful, haughty, vain older sister willingly agrees to be the captain's consort as he enjoys teaching humility to proud, rich women; the younger brother tries to defend his sisters' maidenheads, but he is easily overpowered and is raped in front of the ship's company. The unfortunate maids are also ravaged by the crew.
Meanwhile, the most coveted prize is the fresh, angelic-looking younger sister. The manservant (who could be any race or nationality; I prefer him to be of black Carribean descent) secretly enjoys the rape of the older sister, who has always treated him like dirt. His feelings about the boy are neutral. However, he has always been extremely devoted to the sweet, younger, virginal sister, who has treated him kindly and with respect--almost as a father figure.
As the pirates argue about who should be first to despoil the girl, the large, muscular servant risks his own life by threatening to kill anyone who touches the girl. He must make good on his threat by killing two of the pirates with his bare hands, suffering minor wounds in the process. Impressed by his courage, the pirate captain offers the man a place in the crew and places the girl under the servant's protection. However,to appease his lusty, disappointed crew and satisfy his own perverse appetites, the pirate sets one condition before granting these privileges: the
black must deflower the girl immediately...on the deck, right then, in front of the entire crew. Otherwise the girl will become the property of all. Reluctantly, the black agrees. The jaded crew jeers and laughs at first but eventually grow almost silent in awe as they watch the petite girl take the black's gigantic phallus into her virginal passage. Her protector tries to be as tender as possible under the circumstances and soothes his young charge even as he tries to arouse her to make the event less painful. In this way, he is able to help her block out the perverse crowd and concentrate on his love for her. The captain demands that the act be culminated by insisting that the black ejaculate inside the girl and the proof be displayed.
Weeks later, the pirate captain and the older sister, who has become his personal mistress and whore (he allows favored lieutenants to share her periodically) are in his bed when the brother, who is the new cook's helper, brings their dinner to the captain's quarters. The captain perversely orders the boy to stay and watch while he has sex with the boy's sister. Seeing the boy's lust aroused, the captain then orders the boy to disrobe and join them in bed. The boy is allowed to take his older sister.
Multiple combinations follow (use your imagination).
Is this plot any good (or does it sound like a Harlequin romance novel gone bad)?
{An aside: If this plot appeared in a historical "romance" (minus some of the most jaded details), the siblings' ages would range from late to early teens, if not younger. It's ironic (though understandable) that to appear on Literotica, the siblings must be at least 18. Having the younger girl be more innocent in nature (perhaps she had just returned from a convent) and petite in stature "raises the stakes" in a sense as she is threatened by the crew and enhances her sexual initiation: her soft, pale form covered by the muscular, dusky body of her protector with his enormous shaft entering her small passage.}

ALSO......DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SEPARATE THREADS FOR SEPARATE HISTORICAL TIME PERIODS/SETTINGS, OR WOULD A GENERAL "HISTORICAL" THREAD GET BETTER RESPONSES??

 

[Svenskaflicka]

oh, and what about Christopher Columbus ?

Just think about the first contact between him (and his crew) and the native indians ....

Or (I don't know the exact term): the time between about 1500 to 1700 - back then, many women were accused of being witches ....

I have a serious thing against CC. When he went back home after his first visit to the new continent, he left behind a large group of soldiers to take care of his new findings, and these soldiers treated the indians really bad, raping the women, killing the men who spoke up against this, etc. So, the indians wanted revenge, and killed a group of soldiers. When CC came back and found out about this, he in return had 10 times as many indians murdered - as he thought that one soldier were 10 times more worth than an indian brave, and as he thought that the soldiers hadn't done anything wrong in the first place!

Ofcourse, to each one his/her own taste, and I'm sure there are some people who would love a CC-story, but I wouldn't read it. I've got principles. *sticking nose up in the air*

 

[Svenskaflicka]

If you're talking about the witch crazes, they happenned at different times in europe and in the americas.

The witch trials...I often think that some women were most likely accused for not giving in sexually (rather plausible).

I also think the jazz age would be a great backdrop

*applause* Good point about the witch-thing! Also I think many women were accused simply for being strong and independent - in those days, men didn't like competition. Some guys still don't. It pisses me off every time I hear sport commentators talk about women sports as "ladies' football" or "girls' football". I find that patronising.

Now, the jazz age would be a great turn-on for my hubby - he loves jazz. I'm thinking romantic stories about blue nights and looooooong foreplays here...

 

[BlueDaisy]

I've frequently thought about this topic. I am partial to the American west in the 1800s. I've been trying to come up with a story for this era, but haven't gotten anything down yet.

I look forward to seeing what everyone does with this idea.

Blue

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Quoting rounder03

Excellent, excellent ideas, Svenskaflicka! I especially like the Middle Ages Time period...whether realistic tales such as you suggested or King Arthur/Prince Valiant-type tales in which magic can occur (some of the plots we read in high school were pretty hot...a virgin being transformed in appearance to trick a knight into having sex with her; Lancelot's adultery with Guienvere; Arthur's incestuous sex with his half-sister, etc.

Have you read "The Mists of Avalon"? Oh my, oh my, oh my...

Is this plot any good (or does it sound like a Harlequin romance novel gone bad)?

It has possibilities... I like the Caribbean guy, but could he be a bit younger? Unlike some people, I always get turned off when a girl sees a man as a father-figure.

ALSO......DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SEPARATE THREADS FOR SEPARATE HISTORICAL TIME PERIODS/SETTINGS, OR WOULD A GENERAL "HISTORICAL" THREAD GET BETTER RESPONSES??

Personally, I'd like to have an Historical Forum, in which people could post threads about different times/settings, but... I'm not sure, actually. What does everyone else think? Would it be confusing to deal with all sorts of times/settings in the same thread?

 

[BlueDaisy]

Re: Quoting rounder03

Originally posted by Svenskaflicka
Personally, I'd like to have an Historical Forum, in which people could post threads about different times/settings, but... I'm not sure, actually. What does everyone else think? Would it be confusing to deal with all sorts of times/settings in the same thread? [/B]

I'd like to see one, too. Guess we could start out with one combined, then branch out when one time period gets a lot of responses.

Blue

 

[Svenskaflicka]

So what do you think? I've heard that Laurel is open to ideas, as long as it's serious ideas with lots of people interested in it. Should we PM her and ask for a forum? Do we have enough people interested in it? Or should we stay in this thread here in this forum, and expand it if it gets too big to handle?

 

[BlueDaisy]

So what do you think? I've heard that Laurel is open to ideas, as long as it's serious ideas with lots of people interested in it. Should we PM her and ask for a forum? Do we have enough people interested in it? Or should we stay in this thread here in this forum, and expand it if it gets too big to handle?

Well, IMHO, I suppose we could continue here for a while. But...would the thread get lost amongst all the others? I guess you could bounce it off of Laurel and see what she thinks.

Blue

 

[NASCARaddicted]

Well, since deliciously_naughty mentioned the jazz age (by the way: when was this ?), I am thinking: Where should we draw the line ?

I mean: What about stories from the 60s (Woodstock) - does that still belong to historical sex, or do you think it's still too close to our current time ?

I guess, any story, placed less then 50 years ago could be posted as a normal story.


Oh, and just to add this: There is no erotic, but does anyone know the english tv series "Black Adder" (with the great comedian Rowan Atkinson) ? This tv series (also available on DVD) shows how Black Adder and his servant Baldrick lived in different times.

Each part of the series consistes of 5 episodes. The time settings were: 1485, 1558-1603, 1768-1815 and the last was in 1***

In each of the series, there were the 2 main actors of Black Adder and Baldrick, playing different characters - like in 1485, there was "Edmund Black Adder, Duke of Edinburgh" and in 1***, there was "Sergeant Black Adder"

Maybe this could become an interesting chain story ....

Oh, also: It's not really the same, but just a few days ago, I watched "Back to the Future" (all 3 movies). So maybe a time traveller could also be an interesting addition.

 

[BlueDaisy]

Well, since deliciously_naughty mentioned the jazz age (by the way: when was this ?), I am thinking: Where should we draw the line ?

I mean: What about stories from the 60s (Woodstock) - does that still belong to historical sex, or do you think it's still too close to our current time ?

I guess, any story, placed less then 50 years ago could be posted as a normal story.


Oh, and just to add this: There is no erotic, but does anyone know the english tv series "Black Adder" (with the great comedian Rowan Atkinson) ? This tv series (also available on DVD) shows how Black Adder and his servant Baldrick lived in different times.

Each part of the series consistes of 5 episodes. The time settings were: 1485, 1558-1603, 1768-1815 and the last was in 1***

In each of the series, there were the 2 main actors of Black Adder and Baldrick, playing different characters - like in 1485, there was "Edmund Black Adder, Duke of Edinburgh" and in 1***, there was "Sergeant Black Adder"

Maybe this could become an interesting chain story ....

Oh, also: It's not really the same, but just a few days ago, I watched "Back to the Future" (all 3 movies). So maybe a time traveller could also be an interesting addition.

I agree...IMHO, we should have a limit on what is considered "historical". I would say a minimum of 50 years ago, although we probably should go back further. I mean, I'm 42, so things that happened 50 years ago don't sound so "historical" to me. My siblings are in their 50's!

I guess it depends on what we are thinking of writing about in the 1900s. The 2 World Wars? The Depression? The Korean War? The civil rights era? The moon walks? Those all seem too recent, even though they are "historical events".

I would think that the 1930s would be the latest we would want to go, but then, that is just my way of thinking. When I think in terms of historical times, I tend to think of nothing later than 1910-1920 or thereabouts.

As for the idea of time-travelling, I love that! I enjoy reading time-travel historical romances, especially when a modern-day woman gets sent back to the American west of the mid- to late-1800s (makes me REALLY appreciate my washer/dryer, microwave, refrigerator, stove, central air conditioning and heating! LOL!) I've read some pretty erotic stories, even though they are quite tame compared to the stories here on Lit.

Blue

 

[BlueDaisy]

Oh....forgot to reply to the comment about "Back to the Future". I love that trilogy! I want to get the DVD set. I think my favorite is the one set in the old west (duh! who woulda thunk it!). Although, I like futuristic things, too. I've always said that I was born 100 years too early or 100 years too late.

Blue

 

[PaulX35]

Historical What Sex?

I like the threads about historical sex, in the Wild West and Ancient Rome, respectively. I agree, we should have much more historical stories, with long bejewelled dresses and roll in the hay lofts in the countryside, and knights stepping out of their shining armours.

In addition to the above mentioned times, I'd like to inspire people to come up with ideas for other time periods/geographic locations as well.

Swedish Goddess

Interesting thread, that triggered another thought inside the old man's mind. Many historic stories pay detailed attention to clothes, and other details to accurately paint the historic setting.

But what do we know of how sexuality was perceived then? Since we're all writing erotica here, that seems something of major importance. We know the Vikings raped the women in the cities they conquered. But how were they with their own women? Same with the Greeks, the Romans. Ancient Greece was know for its tolerance for young boy homosexual love, something that is borderline nowadays. Were there any more of these cases, of certain types of sexuality being perceived with a different view than nowadays? Was "doing" catlle more accepted in the Middle Ages? Good chance it was.
The 18th century was one of pommaded guys with perfumed wigs and impeccable manners. They wrote poems to the ladies, but what was happening once the poetry part was done? No idea really, but there is some evidence from the (later) Victorian times that strong cultural restraints on expressions of sexuality proved quite a fertile soil for the hatching of numerous perversions, so who knows what the decent 18th century brought.

If anyone knows of any historic background on the history of lust, I'd be interested to read some about it.

Paul (20th century)

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Re: Historical What Sex?

Swedish Goddess
But what do we know of how sexuality was perceived then? Since we're all writing erotica here, that seems something of major importance.

If anyone knows of any historic background on the history of lust, I'd be interested to read some about it.

Paul (20th century)

I think the best stories will be those where the author has put down a little effort to research the time and country he/she is writing about. But I think that ultimately, we're gonna have to use our imagination. I read somewhere that it doesn't matter if you lie through your teeth when you write a story, as long as you make the lie believable.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Oh, and just to add this: There is no erotic, but does anyone know the english tv series "Black Adder" (with the great comedian Rowan Atkinson) ? This tv series (also available on DVD) shows how Black Adder and his servant Baldrick lived in different times.

Each part of the series consistes of 5 episodes. The time settings were: 1485, 1558-1603, 1768-1815 and the last was in 1***

In each of the series, there were the 2 main actors of Black Adder and Baldrick, playing different characters - like in 1485, there was "Edmund Black Adder, Duke of Edinburgh" and in 1***, there was "Sergeant Black Adder"

Maybe this could become an interesting chain story ....

Rowan Atkinson is one of my absolute favourite comedians - I love his dry, cynical sense of humour. My favourite was the one in the 1700, when he got to dress in those beautiful clothes. Rrrreowrrr! What a man!

 

[PaulX35]

Re: Re: Historical What Sex?

I think the best stories will be those where the author has put down a little effort to research the time and country he/she is writing about. But I think that ultimately, we're gonna have to use our imagination. I read somewhere that it doesn't matter if you lie through your teeth when you write a story, as long as you make the lie believable.

I'm with you on that one; we can never do without our imagination, no matter which historic setting we place erotic stories in.
My reply was merely a try to dig into possible nuances of different appreciation of sexuality through the ages. That would add an - I think - interesting touch to historic erotica.

Paul

 

[BlueDaisy]

Re: Re: Re: Historical What Sex?

I'm with you on that one; we can never do without our imagination, no matter which historic setting we place erotic stories in.
My reply was merely a try to dig into possible nuances of different appreciation of sexuality through the ages. That would add an - I think - interesting touch to historic erotica.

Paul

I understood what you were trying to say (not saying that our Swedish lovely didn't *grin*). Every book of historical fiction relies on the author's imagination to some extent...thats why it is fiction.

Actually, I've tried to do some research online about things sexual back in the 1800s. I could find virtually nothing. One of the things I read time and again was that apparently ladies of that era just didn't speak of things like that, even in their diaries. I found it interesting that there might be an entry in a pioneer woman's diary about being ill for a while with no reason given, then months later the very brief mention of the birth of a new baby. Period.

If any of you has any online resources for finding such intimate information as things sexual back in history, please share! lol

Blue

 

[NASCARaddicted]

I agree...IMHO, we should have a limit on what is considered "historical". I would say a minimum of 50 years ago, although we probably should go back further. I mean, I'm 42, so things that happened 50 years ago don't sound so "historical" to me. My siblings are in their 50's!

I guess it depends on what we are thinking of writing about in the 1900s. The 2 World Wars? The Depression? The Korean War? The civil rights era? The moon walks? Those all seem too recent, even though they are "historical events".

I would think that the 1930s would be the latest we would want to go, but then, that is just my way of thinking. When I think in terms of historical times, I tend to think of nothing later than 1910-1920 or thereabouts.

As for the idea of time-travelling, I love that! I enjoy reading time-travel historical romances, especially when a modern-day woman gets sent back to the American west of the mid- to late-1800s (makes me REALLY appreciate my washer/dryer, microwave, refrigerator, stove, central air conditioning and heating! LOL!) I've read some pretty erotic stories, even though they are quite tame compared to the stories here on Lit.

Blue

Yeah, at first I even thought maybe I should say something like "100 years" instead of "50 years" - but then 100 years would be to much I think.
When I wrote this, I had to think about the "roaring 20s". Al Capone and the Mafia in Chicago. Just look at the Movies "Some like it hot" with Marilyn Monroe, or "Once upon a time in America" ...

As for the modern-day woman ending up in the late 1800s ... that is also a very good idea. Just think: She is very open minded, she has no problem to flirt with a man or to talk open about sex. And she has no problem with showing her body. So she is skinny-dipping in a lake, when some cowboys ride by the lake. She gets out of the lake - and a normal woman would instantly cover her nude body - but she doesn't ....