Hillarys Bank Lecture Transcripts

[JackLuis]

Leakes tell the story and Jimmy Dore digs in to the transcripts.

Maybe that is why this had to be leaked? Bernie was right, Shillary is in the Wall Street Mafia!

 

[sr71plt]

Although I would (and have) considered hacked private e-mail fair game for espionage collection, I don't consider private work product fair game for public reading (or there never could be full, free, and honest policy formulation discussion), so I wouldn't consider anything obtained that way--and especially wouldn't take it into account when it was being provided by a foreign adversary and only from one side of the election campaigning. I wouldn't make anything of hijacked and released e-mails from the Republicans either. But I don't think anyone is dumb enough to think the Republican e-mail content is any more noble than the Democratic e-mail content is or shouldn't be outraged that the Russians are doing this--and suspicious about who they are doing it to favor (and why).

 

[JackLuis]

Although I would (and have) considered hacked private e-mail fair game for espionage collection, I don't consider private work product fair game for public reading (or there never could be full, free, and honest policy formulation discussion), so I wouldn't consider anything obtained that way--and especially wouldn't take it into account when it was being provided by a foreign adversary and only from one side of the election campaigning. I wouldn't make anything of hijacked and released e-mails from the Republicans either. But I don't think anyone is dumb enough to think the Republican e-mail content is any more noble than the Democratic e-mail content is or shouldn't be outraged that the Russians are doing this--and suspicious about who they are doing it to favor (and why).

This is Journalism, stating the facts of what Hillary said to the banks is news. How to interpret that is the question? Did she say what you would think a shill trolling for dollars would say or did she challenge the excesses of the Financial class?

If Woodward had published this what would you say, Pilot. Are you not guilty of bias against the Russian/Free World Press? You use terms to frame the argument that come from the Beltway view, that it's Okay for US to violate privacy for National Security, yet the public can not have the right to protect themselves from a War Mongering Neo-Liberalist?

Her remarks tell a lot about how politics works in the world. Those transcripts should be studied academically to expose the corruption that exists in our political system.

 

[sr71plt]

It's a product of illegal hacking. I don't recognize the legitimacy of it being dumped in and sifted through by journalism or the public. Doesn't matter to me whether it's Democratic or Republican or private company material. It's additionally egregious being part of an attempt of a foreign power to mess around in the American elections in favor of one of the candidates.

 

[JackLuis]

It's a product of illegal hacking. I don't recognize the legitimacy of it being dumped in and sifted through by journalism or the public. Doesn't matter to me whether it's Democratic or Republican or private company material. It's additionally egregious being part of an attempt of a foreign power to mess around in the American elections in favor of one of the candidates.

Does this actually help Trump? Is this worse that the allegation of sexual perversion and misconduct he has been exposed to? If Hillary's words in several speeches cast her in a bad light, is that the responsibility of the free press to protect her?

If you would shield her from her own words, you are complicit in the defrauding of the American Voter.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

PENTAGON PAPERS Daniel Ellsberg.

Facts are facts.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Does this actually help Trump? Is this worse that the allegation of sexual perversion and misconduct he has been exposed to? If Hillary's words in several speeches cast her in a bad light, is that the responsibility of the free press to protect her?

I think most people have made up their minds and it would take something not even possible to sway most of them.

If you would shield her from her own words, you are complicit in the defrauding of the American Voter.

He's ok with that, (D) is all that matters.

 

[Hypoxia]

This is Journalism, stating the facts of what Hillary said to the banks is news. <snip> If Woodward had published this...

I don't recall that Woodward and Bernstein accepted burgled files and stolen recordings of private conversations. I do recall that Murdoch's felonious News Corp had 'journalists' hacking the phones of families of 9/11 and other terror victims. Prison resulted for some. It's not journalism; it's a break-in.

Does this actually help Trump? Is this worse that the allegation of sexual perversion and misconduct he has been exposed to?

Tromp was not being evesdropped when he was recorded (and often broadcast) bragging of sexual assaults, of wanting to fuck his daughter, of telling 10- and 14-year-old girls he'd be fucking them soon, and bragging of bribery. Not allegations; his own words, in public. Yes, defaming HRC helps Tromp, or so he thinks. And labeling her a "demon from Hell" sure stirs his base.

BTW if she's "Lying Hillary" then how do you know she wasn't lying to the bankers?

 

[JackLuis]

I don't recall that Woodward and Bernstein accepted burgled files and stolen recordings of private conversations. I do recall that Murdoch's felonious News Corp had 'journalists' hacking the phones of families of 9/11 and other terror victims. Prison resulted for some. It's not journalism; it's a break-in.

Tromp was not being evesdropped when he was recorded (and often broadcast) bragging of sexual assaults, of wanting to fuck his daughter, of telling 10- and 14-year-old girls he'd be fucking them soon, and bragging of bribery. Not allegations; his own words, in public. Yes, defaming HRC helps Tromp, or so he thinks. And labeling her a "demon from Hell" sure stirs his base.

BTW if she's "Lying Hillary" then how do you know she wasn't lying to the bankers?

This is not about E-Mails of private conversation. It's about the semi-public dispensation of Hillay's philosophy as espoused to the Financial class. I believe that her comments to the Worlds Banking system is of legitimate public interest if she is going to assume the Presidency.

BTW, I'm sure she was lying to the Bankers, she will do what is in her interests. We need to make sure that she leads us on the path we want. An improved Domestic Economy, and security from all threats, Foreign and Domestic.

Pilots pitch the only she can run the Government because she has so much experience in political life doesn't make sense. Pilot alluded to to Bernie's limitation, he deals in facts not the illusions of the Establishment propaganda.

HRC the least evil, but she needs supervision.

 

[JackLuis]

I think most people have made up their minds and it would take something not even possible to sway most of them.



He's ok with that, (D) is all that matters.

The election was fixed long ago. First in the DNC and sinking Bernie, then with the RNC having to accept Trump and the disintegration of the Republican Clusterfuck.

I hear it said, on the Young Turks that Hillary loves to lead a Parade, so we should give her a parade to lead, only we get to select the theme. If the people turn out in the streets for a positive purpose, who gets to take the adulation? If she wants the adulation, she'll have to take up the Grand Marshal's baton.

Jesse Ventura is pushing a new book that suggests that the legalization of Marijuana is such a purpose. If we push for it and beat the DEA bureaucracy, we'll be that much closer to gaining control of those assholes.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The election was fixed long ago. First in the DNC and sinking Bernie, then with the RNC having to accept Trump and the disintegration of the Republican Clusterfuck.

I hear it said, on the Young Turks that Hillary loves to lead a Parade, so we should give her a parade to lead, only we get to select the theme. If the people turn out in the streets for a positive purpose, who gets to take the adulation? If she wants the adulation, she'll have to take up the Grand Marshal's baton.

Jesse Ventura is pushing a new book that suggests that the legalization of Marijuana is such a purpose. If we push for it and beat the DEA bureaucracy, we'll be that much closer to gaining control of those assholes.

If she legalizes it she'll go for schedule II so that only her big pharma friends are allowed to make money on it.


Can't have peasants making money.

 

[JackLuis]

If she legalizes it she'll go for schedule II so that only her big pharma friends are allowed to make money on it.


Can't have peasants making money.

True if we do not push her hard enough. Her Achilles Heel will be the medical uses, For the Children, don't ya know? And providing free home grown medicine to the masses.

Let's face it, Marijuana is a ~$20 billion dollar market if they legalize it and you can grow your own if you wish, just like tobacco, then there will be a commercial market and back yard gardeners. Craft Brewed Beer or Home Grown Weed, mox nix?

 

[BotanyBoy]

True if we do not push her hard enough. Her Achilles Heel will be the medical uses, For the Children, don't ya know? And providing free home grown medicine to the masses.

Let's face it, Marijuana is a ~$20 billion dollar market if they legalize it and you can grow your own if you wish, just like tobacco, then there will be a commercial market and back yard gardeners. Craft Brewed Beer or Home Grown Weed, mox nix?

40+ billion just in Cali.....estimated 150-180 nationwide. Of course that's at current grey/black market prices which will come down a bit, 15~% if they don't tax it too hard.

It would be cool, I think it's rather dreamy though.

I think the feds will be just like the state capitals, whoring out the rights to the highest bidders.

They just aren't going to let a game that big go unrigged.

 

[phrodeau]

She made speeches to rooms filled with people. They all heard what she said. Some probably took notes.

Where are they? Who has come forward as an attendant to Clinton's speeches with a report of the things she said?

All those deleted e-mails went somewhere, too. Who got them, and why can't they produce a few choice gems for the red meat crowd?

 

[BotanyBoy]

She made speeches to rooms filled with people. They all heard what she said. Some probably took notes.

Where are they? Who has come forward as an attendant to Clinton's speeches with a report of the things she said?

Who cares, she took the money.

All those deleted e-mails went somewhere, too. Who got them, and why can't they produce a few choice gems for the red meat crowd?

Doesn't matter the AG won't charge her despite the FBI finding her rather red handed committing a number of felonies, she's above the law.

 

[phrodeau]

Who cares, she took the money.



Doesn't matter the AG won't charge her despite the FBI finding her rather red handed committing a number of felonies, she's above the law.

That's pretty specific. Got any links?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Ooh, Billy's wife is a shill for big business and banks!

This is news?

I thought Yanks loved capitalism and free market policies.

Bunch of closet lefties IMO.

Have your cake and eat it too.

 

[JackLuis]

This thread is not about how we know what she said, but about what she said.

WHat she said was indicative of her actual opinions on the issues. Banks are her friends and she will do what she can to promote the interests of the 1%. After all she's quite close to being a 1%er herself.

 

[Hypoxia]

WHat she said was indicative of her actual opinions on the issues. Banks are her friends and she will do what she can to promote the interests of the 1%.

GOP congresscritters will start the impeachment proceedings even before she's inaugurated so she might not accomplish much. We're now in round 2 or 3 of a 9-round fight. Stay tuned for more fun. Pass the guacamole and chips. And beer -- we'll need lotsa strong beer. <burp> And heroin.

 

[sr71plt]

The election was fixed long ago. First in the DNC and sinking Bernie, then with the RNC having to accept Trump and the disintegration of the Republican Clusterfuck.

Oh, get a grip. "Fixed" implies prior planning. No one at the DNC expected Bernie to declared for the Democratic presidential candidate spot. He wasn't even a Democrat until ten minutes before he was in the mix. And the RNC most definitely didn't fix anything to give Trump their nomination.

 

[JackLuis]

Oh, get a grip. "Fixed" implies prior planning. No one at the DNC expected Bernie to declared for the Democratic presidential candidate spot. He wasn't even a Democrat until ten minutes before he was in the mix. And the RNC most definitely didn't fix anything to give Trump their nomination.

I'll grant you Bernie was a surprise to the DNC who were setting Hillary up for the role. Trump was inserted into the RNC mix to lead the base of the party away from anyone who could beat Hillary, not that any of the 15 other yahoos could reasonably be expected to challenge Hillary.

 

[Hypoxia]

I'll grant you Bernie was a surprise to the DNC who were setting Hillary up for the role. Trump was inserted into the RNC mix to lead the base of the party away from anyone who could beat Hillary, not that any of the 15 other yahoos could reasonably be expected to challenge Hillary.

Who inserted The Donald into the mix?

 

[JackLuis]

Who inserted The Donald into the mix?

I believe that Bill Clinton did. YMMV

 

[underguy1]

Although I would (and have) considered hacked private e-mail fair game for espionage collection, I don't consider private work product fair game for public reading (or there never could be full, free, and honest policy formulation discussion), so I wouldn't consider anything obtained that way--and especially wouldn't take it into account when it was being provided by a foreign adversary and only from one side of the election campaigning. I wouldn't make anything of hijacked and released e-mails from the Republicans either. But I don't think anyone is dumb enough to think the Republican e-mail content is any more noble than the Democratic e-mail content is or shouldn't be outraged that the Russians are doing this--and suspicious about who they are doing it to favor (and why).

That's truly pathetic.

How low can you go?

 

[Hypoxia]

I believe that Bill Clinton did. YMMV

I harbored that notion for awhile too. Makes sense in some ways. But Tromp seems to have gone overboard in his enthusiasm. Or is he really that good an actor?

Scenario: Around 2012 Wee Willie tells Tromp, "Y'know buddy, Hill's gonna run next time. I bet you could have fun, make money, and destroy those dumb-ass Repubs if you ran too. Oh yeah, and when she's Prez she can make lotsa your legal troubles go away." They each sniff another line of coke. "Whadya say?"

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