High school freshman builds a home made clock and gets arrested

[Mike_Yates]

High school freshman builds a home made clock and gets arrested for terrorism

Apparently building your own clock is seen as a terrorist act.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/us/texas-student-ahmed-muslim-clock-bomb/

 

[neci]

the student, who has won awards for engineering, took the clock to school to show his engineering teacher what he accomplished over the weekend. when another teacher saw the clock, the principal was notified, the police were called, the kid went to juvenile and has now been suspended for three days. welcome to being brown in texas.

 

[Mike_Yates]

I wonder if the school and/or the police department will be held liable for violating his rights.

Do you think any civil suits might arise out of this?

 

[Sean]

I wonder if the school and/or the police department will be held liable for violating his rights.

Do you think any civil suits might arise out of this?

CAIR and the ACLU are both involved. I'm guessing the Irving school district and the PD are gonna get fucked up the arse big time.

 

[Adre]

It's not without reason that school administrators and teachers are a little jumpy these days.

 

[neci]

he was arrested in his nasa shirt. the bomb squad was never called. they knew the entire time there was no threat. maybe the school will lift his suspension, now that obama has invited him to the white house.

 

[Aglaopheme]

he was arrested in his nasa shirt. the bomb squad was never called. they knew the entire time there was no threat. maybe the school will lift his suspension, now that obama has invited him to the white house.

I was looking for any update as to whether or not they had.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

the student, who has won awards for engineering, took the clock to school to show his engineering teacher what he accomplished over the weekend. when another teacher saw the clock, the principal was notified, the police were called, the kid went to juvenile and has now been suspended for three days. welcome to being brown in texas.

They do the same exact shit to little white kids who eat their pop-tarts into a gun.



Zero-tolerance.



Probably of not just the gun, but the parent that would provide a pop-tart for lunch instead of dried okra...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I wonder if the school and/or the police department will be held liable for violating his rights.

Do you think any civil suits might arise out of this?

If they do, they would be highly hypocritical...



When a thirteen year-old boy kisses a fourteen year-old girl and faces sexual assault charges, you know your culture is, *ahem* WHACK!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

In most schools a cookie bit to resemble a gun is cause to expel the child who made it. Drawing a picture of a gun is enough, too. Someplaces a NRA cap is enough. A clock could be a weapon of mass destruction. Hang the junior terrorist.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

the student, who has won awards for engineering, took the clock to school to show his engineering teacher what he accomplished over the weekend. when another teacher saw the clock, the principal was notified, the police were called, the kid went to juvenile and has now been suspended for three days. welcome to being brown in texas.

If anything, I blame the engineering teacher who was shown the device for not IMMEDIATELY calming down his alarmist colleagues and the police and putting a stop to this nonsense BEFORE it got out of control.

I realize there are probably a number of "educators" in Texas who can't tell time and wouldn't know a clock from a sundial, but WTF!!??

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

If anything, I blame the engineering teacher who was shown the device for not IMMEDIATELY calming down his alarmist colleagues and the police and putting a stop to this nonsense BEFORE it got out of control.

I realize there are probably a number of "educators" in Texas who can't tell time and wouldn't know a clock from a sundial, but WTF!!??

So the engineering teacher had an obligation to call all of the teachers together and inform them that there was a clock on the premises?



I once, as a young man, worked overnights in a cash-only gas station in a high-crime part of town. One night, a dark caddy showed up, a man got out in dark clothes and wearing a mask. Well, I panicked, jumped into the back and called the police about an impending robbery.



Turns out, the guy was a burn victim. Maybe he should have had someone there to approach me and pay me so that I would not panic...

 

[Aglaopheme]

^^ That

I suppose the school has to stick to it's suspension so as to not admit to any wrong doing.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Not that. The that before that.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Not that. The that before that.

This is why there's a quote function, milady Aglao.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

In today's cesspool of bureaucratically nonsense I would seriously consider just getting a GED, acing the SAT's and still having a pick of colleges.

That and getting signed consent forms prior to intercourse...


and taping said intercourse. But that would be a dual function exercise.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Nobody panicked over the backpacks of the Boston bombers...



Now we condemn someone for panicking when they see wires and an LED (like on TV)?

Are we outraged now only at the fact that a known Muslim walked into a room with something that looked more like a bomb than a backpack, and HE WAS PROFILED!???

Perish the thought! Maybe, he should have checked it into school offices instead of doing something very fucking stupid since he is clearly so brilliant!

 

[Aglaopheme]

This is why there's a quote function, milady Aglao.

Ha! Oooooh. That is how it works! Thanks

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

In today's cesspool of bureaucratically nonsense I would seriously consider just getting a GED, acing the SAT's and still having a pick of colleges.

That and getting signed consent forms prior to intercourse...


and taping said intercourse. But that would be a dual function exercise.

Homeschooling.



Our daughter started at three with a Quaker family...

 

[Colonel Hogan]

So the engineering teacher had an obligation to call all of the teachers together and inform them that there was a clock on the premises?



I once, as a young man, worked overnights in a cash-only gas station in a high-crime part of town. One night, a dark caddy showed up, a man got out in dark clothes and wearing a mask. Well, I panicked, jumped into the back and called the police about an impending robbery.



Turns out, the guy was a burn victim. Maybe he should have had someone there to approach me and pay me so that I would not panic...

Under the circumstances, I believe the conclusion you "jumped to" was far more "reasonable" particularly in light of your inability to ascertain the full context of the situation while simultaneously maintaining your safety if your worst assumptions had proven correct.

Obviously I don't know how things specifically went down at the Texas high school, but those in authority there had far more ability and resources to check things out than you did working late at night alone at a gas station.

Or so it would seem to me.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Under the circumstances, I believe the conclusion you "jumped to" was far more "reasonable" particularly in light of your inability to ascertain the full context of the situation while simultaneously maintaining your safety if your worst assumptions had proven correct.

Obviously I don't know how things specifically went down at the Texas high school, but those in authority there had far more ability and resources to check things out than you did working late at night alone at a gas station.

Or so it would seem to me.

That is way more reasonable and thought-out than your first post.

Maybe they did, maybe they did not. It's been a long time since either one of us were in school, but my kid still is and there is not a lot of interaction going on in the faculty and people are people, and in this case, I really think that the panic was more warranted than the hyperventilating over a pop-tart knowing that everyday, the leaders of Jihad are not only recruiting young Muslims, but exhorting them to violence in much the same manner as #blackliversmatter has inspired a rash of police executions.

What the fuck would we be saying if everyone in the school ignored all of this for the sake of political correctness and it had been a bomb that killed more people than Dylan Roof?

Would we call for Muslim control????

 

[Aglaopheme]

Under the circumstances, I believe the conclusion you "jumped to" was far more "reasonable" particularly in light of your inability to ascertain the full context of the situation while simultaneously maintaining your safety if your worst assumptions had proven correct.

Obviously I don't know how things specifically went down at the Texas high school, but those in authority there had far more ability and resources to check things out than you did working late at night alone at a gas station.

Or so it would seem to me.

The clock beeped in class and the young man showed it to his English teacher. They asked if it was a bomb, he said no it's a clock. The teacher said you should not show that to anyone else, and confiscated it.

Irving's mayor, who stands by the school's action does not have the best history with the Muslim community. The mayor made national news backing an "anti-Sharia" bill.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The same Muslim community that has executed "honor killings" in this country?

 

[FGB]

I don't have time for this shit!

 

[Colonel Hogan]

That is way more reasonable and thought-out than your first post.

Maybe they did, maybe they did not. It's been a long time since either one of us were in school, but my kid still is and there is not a lot of interaction going on in the faculty and people are people, and in this case, I really think that the panic was more warranted than the hyperventilating over a pop-tart knowing that everyday, the leaders of Jihad are not only recruiting young Muslims, but exhorting them to violence in much the same manner as #blackliversmatter has inspired a rash of police executions.

What the fuck would we be saying if everyone in the school ignored all of this for the sake of political correctness and it had been a bomb that killed more people than Dylan Roof?

Would we call for Muslim control????

I will grant you that the circumstances under which the device was discovered are critical to whatever happened next. If the freaked out teacher saw it sitting on the floor tucked behind and partially hidden by an open doorway, I am far more understanding of the panic reaction.

If, however, he or she happened by while student and the engineering teacher were calmly examining it and discussing the design, then a simple "Hi, guys, what's going on?" would have seemed in order before running down the hall to the nearest phone like a lunatic.

The middle ground between these two extremes is slightly more complex, and hopefully we will get a better picture of what happened in the days ahead.

But I do assume that when taken into custody the student DID say something like, "If you talk to my teacher Mr./Ms. Jones, I believe we can clear this up." If he did that and they DIDN'T, then shame on them.