Hey, Ogg (and other Brits)

[Champakian]

How's the Brexit fallout going to impact the rock?

Jackhammer or gentle rain?



I ask because I really don't know (or care) jack about your politics,
but I am curious because of what I am reading.

 

[oggbashan]

Brexit was always going to be a financial hit in the first few years.

But the deal is better than we (or the EU) had hoped for. It will take about eighteen months for things to settle down and the import/export infrastructure to be effective. But we have control of our own destiny and the EU is also going to go through a rough time, with or without Brexit.

Brexit was always unnecessary. If the EU had offered Teresa May (or Boris) a fraction of what the current deal does there would have been no Brexit. If there had been a tiny offer to David Cameron there would have been no referendum. But EU politics prevented that.

 

[oggbashan]

As for the Rock? Of Gibraltar, that is. It isn't covered in the main Brexit agreement. It should be a separate agreement between Gibraltar, Spain, and the UK or the shit hits the fan on Jan 1st.

Gibraltar needs it, Southern Spain needs it. Their economies could be badly damaged without it. But Madrid is asking for more than the UK is prepared to concede.

Watch this space...

 

[Sean]

They sold an industry worth 6.9% of GDP down the river to get a deal for an industry worth 0.1% of GDP. And even that deal is pretty crap. Boris definitely had the fucking A team at that negotiating table.

 

[oggbashan]

They sold an industry worth 6.9% of GDP down the river to get a deal for an industry worth 0.1% of GDP. And even that deal is pretty crap. Boris definitely had the fucking A team at that negotiating table.

That's politics for you. There are more votes from defending gallant British fishermen from grasping French and Dutch bigger boats than in supporting fat-cat bankers who will still probably walk all over EU institutions despite hopes from Frankfurt and Paris.

 

[DeYaKen]

Brexit was always going to be a financial hit in the first few years.

But the deal is better than we (or the EU) had hoped for. It will take about eighteen months for things to settle down and the import/export infrastructure to be effective. But we have control of our own destiny and the EU is also going to go through a rough time, with or without Brexit.

Brexit was always unnecessary. If the EU had offered Teresa May (or Boris) a fraction of what the current deal does there would have been no Brexit. If there had been a tiny offer to David Cameron there would have been no referendum. But EU politics prevented that.

We do not have control of our own destiny. Destiny is pre ordained. I know this is the phrase constantly rolled out by brexiteer ex Eton politicians but Winston Churchil was the last Eton boy to have a true command of the language.

destiny
Also found in: Thesaurus, Idioms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
des·ti·ny (dĕs′tə-nē)
n. pl. des·ti·nies
1. The inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined; one's lot.
2. A predetermined course of events considered as something beyond human power or control: "Marriage and hanging go by destiny" (Robert Burton).

 

[DeYaKen]

They sold an industry worth 6.9% of GDP down the river to get a deal for an industry worth 0.1% of GDP. And even that deal is pretty crap. Boris definitely had the fucking A team at that negotiating table.

It's not even a real deal. it is an exercise in kicking the can down the road. Fishing quotas are to be revised in five and a half years. the regulations on state aid have just been re-worded. If the EU decides that we are unfairly aiding or susidising the production of some products then the EU can impose WTO tariffs on those goods. f the EU enhances workers rights and Britain doesn't follow they can impose tariffs on the affected goods.

Although Britain will not have to tell the British where things come from they will have to declare it on export paperwork. This is especially the case when it comes to food products. This is no problem for our meat producers but when it comes to processed food it is a nightmare and will probably increase costs.

The deal that we now have offers nothing like the access we have now. Although most goods will be tariff free the inspections and paperwork that will be required will cause delays and increased costs.

If David Cameron had been offerd these terms, he wouldn't have been able to sell it because MPs would have asked 'What is the point of being in the union?'

 

[Sean]

That's politics for you. There are more votes from defending gallant British fishermen from grasping French and Dutch bigger boats than in supporting fat-cat bankers who will still probably walk all over EU institutions despite hopes from Frankfurt and Paris.

Most of the foreign boats fishing British waters are operating on British licenses. Licenses were issued to British trawlers who promptly sold them to the highest bidder.

 

[oggbashan]

Most of the foreign boats fishing British waters are operating on British licenses. Licenses were issued to British trawlers who promptly sold them to the highest bidder.

I know - fucking idiots!

 

[colddiesel]

Winston Churchill was the last Eton boy to have a true command of the language.

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Churchill did not attend Eton.

 

[EmptyTank]

here we are trending to fish farming
the only impediment is government

 

[Champakian]

That was some interesting reading. Thank you for your replies...

 

[DeYaKen]

Churchill did not attend Eton.

He says he did. read "My early years " by Winston S Churchill.

 

[butters]

He says he did. read "My early years " by Winston S Churchill.

hmmn, i replied to this but looking into things further...


Harrow and Sandhurst

his grandson (same name) attended eton and christchurch

 

[DeYaKen]

hmmn, i replied to this but looking into things further...


Harrow and Sandhurst

his grandson (same name) attended eton and christchurch

You may be right. It is a long time since I read the book. In which case Eton hasn't produced an English Scholar.

The book is a surprisingly entertaining read. He claims that he was left to study English because the school thought him too thick to study Latin.

 

[ShagTimes]

How's the Brexit fallout going to impact the rock?

I wasn't aware that Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson had an opinion on Brexit.

 

[butters]

You may be right. It is a long time since I read the book. In which case Eton hasn't produced an English Scholar.

The book is a surprisingly entertaining read. He claims that he was left to study English because the school thought him too thick to study Latin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Early_Life