Hey Eve

[twelveoone]

I know my comment was a little short; you know how I feel about it don't you?
You also know how I feel about you, your poetry and your growth as a poet. I hope.
I know some in the past, may have gotten the wrong impression, because of our past sniping at each other.
But, you did write this on a full stomach, I presume. Can I impose upon you to post what I wrote to you about Lodz.


Or should I quit leaving comments?

 

[WickedEve]

But, you did write this on a full stomach, I presume. Can I impose upon you to post what I wrote to you about Lodz.

Are you we talking PC, or in a PM, or email, or on the board when I was first working on it? You know I never know what you're talking about. lol
And you shouldn't fret about the poem or any comments you made. I finally had to submit it, so I could move on, and hopefully, get some more constructive feedback. I like the poem, but it still needs more work.

 

[twelveoone]

Are you we talking PC, or in a PM, or email, or on the board when I was first working on it? You know I never know what you're talking about. lol
And you shouldn't fret about the poem or any comments you made. I finally had to submit it, so I could move on, and hopefully, get some more constructive feedback. I like the poem, but it still needs more work.

It was an email, I was writing in English, I remember I said something profound; must have been profound, foehn said pretty much the same thing a few days later in a post. I think, either that or he said it first, and I recognised it as profound and stole it.

Q. did you have a problem with my comment, and did you understand what I meant?
should I eloborate?

 

[WickedEve]

It was an email, I was writing in English, I remember I said something profound; must have been profound, foehn said pretty much the same thing a few days later in a post. I think, either that or he said it first, and I recognised it as profound and stole it.

Q. did you have a problem with my comment, and did you understand what I meant?
should I eloborate?

The PC comment? Let me read it again...

"well written; still not you"

I guess it's not my regular style. Perhaps, if it had been more me, it would have been better? I admit that I had a fit with this poem and almost gave up. But I still felt that it was good enough to share. And by finally submitting it, I could stop revising for awhile and get rid of my frustration over it. It's a relief to say, "There, it's done." Though, I do plan to read it again in a few months and see if I can improve it some more.

 

[twelveoone]

The PC comment? Let me read it again...

"well written; still not you"

I guess it's not my regular style. Perhaps, if it had been more me, it would have been better? I admit that I had a fit with this poem and almost gave up. But I still felt that it was good enough to share. And by finally submitting it, I could stop revising for awhile and get rid of my frustration over it. It's a relief to say, "There, it's done." Though, I do plan to read it again in a few months and see if I can improve it some more.

Let me elaborate, since less is not sometimes more. I am quite annoyed at people putting words in my mouth, taking opportunities to misrepresent.
To paraphrase earlier emails, I do not perceive you as having one particular syle, nor do I think you should lock into one. You are quite good at all you have done. Some I am in awe off. I do think you can write about Lodz very well, but not from the perspective of someone who was there, this, I hope is too alien an existence for you to absorb. How hungry have you been, have you had an existence of omnipresent fear and oppression, any relationship to it? You can not capture it yet, it does not quite ring true. It would be like me trying to write like Langston Hughes, it is outside my existence.
This is all I meant. Should I have put all of this in the comment?
Despite this challenge, you did quite well.
5 words, score of a 100; I do not like someone else second guessing what I meant. I am quite capable of putting my own foot in my mouth, without another trying to bend my knee.
Does anyone else have a problem with this?

 

[WickedEve]

I'm not sure what's wrong. I know I didn't say anything negative about your comment or any of your comments. I always appreciate your words.

 

[WickedEve]

Actually, I think I'll either remove that poem or try to submit an edit. Though, I don't think I can edit it enough to correct its problems. Sometimes, it's best to move on to other poems. I do have some I'm working on.

 

[Eleanora Day]

Actually, I think I'll either remove that poem or try to submit an edit. Though, I don't think I can edit it enough to correct its problems. Sometimes, it's best to move on to other poems. I do have some I'm working on.

I think it's very good.

 

[bluerains]

am not getting this post~~

must be alien thoughts generating vibrations of non conformity...thats it...omg...I am lame....

 

[foehn]

It was an email, I was writing in English, I remember I said something profound; must have been profound, foehn said pretty much the same thing a few days later in a post. I think, either that or he said it first, and I recognised it as profound and stole it.

Q. did you have a problem with my comment, and did you understand what I meant?
should I eloborate?

I'm deemed, now, to be able to know what *profound* is? *LOL* Hey, how did I get into this mess?

Oh Heavens, you're both of you wonderful poets.

I just looked for Eve's submissions. Are they currently off-line?

 

[twelveoone]

I'm not sure what's wrong. I know I didn't say anything negative about your comment or any of your comments. I always appreciate your words.

Thank you, Eve
I needed that
I see that I stand alone with my view on this poemand I am not far out of agreement, that is fine. Two other comments refered to mine and did not agree, I had no problem with that. One other launched into a tirade against things that I did not say there, I have a problem with that.

What was said in an email earlier to Eve was this would take an awful amount of internalization (suffering) before she would be able to exteralize it (write). I think you did a remarkable job, but from the POV of someone in the ghetto, it didn't ring true. (to me)
All I implied.
Did not mention, that you should stick to your "regular writing".
Did not imply that you did not research this, and I am amazed at how well you did, and know that you must have assumed a heavy burden to get as far as you did, with it. These are awful places of the soul to live, even briefly.

As always,
your fan and admirer
1201

 

[WickedEve]

I just looked for Eve's submissions. Are they currently off-line?

You need to look for submissions by WickedEve. There is also a username Wicked Eve, with the space between names. That username is a couple of years old and a "troll" used it to post as me.

 

[PatCarrington]

You need to look for submissions by WickedEve. There is also a username Wicked Eve, with the space between names. That username is a couple of years old and a "troll" used it to post as me.

i didn't know that.

did you bitch slap her out of here?

 

[WickedEve]

What was said in an email earlier to Eve was this would take an awful amount of internalization (suffering) before she would be able to exteralize it (write). I think you did a remarkable job, but from the POV of someone in the ghetto, it didn't ring true. (to me)
All I implied.
1201

The new version that I submitted is about my reaction to what I read and saw in a book/online/tv. It was not from the POV of someone there in the Lodz ghetto. The poem I submitted is just another growth spurt for me--more exploring, experimenting, learning. But your comment on internalization/externalize is valid. I wish I was able to write a more powerful piece. But I don't have those kinds of harsh experiences in my life that would allow me to write that powerfully. So, that's why I wrote about how I was affected from my safe little world. That's the best I can do at the moment. But I will continue to write whatever I please, and I look forward to you challenging me every step of the way.

 

[WickedEve]

i didn't know that.

did you bitch slap her out of here?

He/she signed up other names that were similar to some of the other poets here. But I do see that some readers have Wicked Eve (who has no submissions) on their favorites.
Anyway, this person got bored and left. lol

 

[PatCarrington]

He/she signed up other names that were similar to some of the other poets here. But I do see that some readers have Wicked Eve (who has no submissions) on their favorites.
Anyway, this person got bored and left. lol

WickedEve.....Wicked Eve......hmmm.....subtle difference.

no wonder my love letters never get through.

 

[WickedEve]

WickedEve.....Wicked Eve......hmmm.....subtle difference.

no wonder my love letters never get through.

They got through. There's a restraining order for you here in VA.

 

[PatCarrington]

They got through. There's a restraining order for you here in VA.

i don't have many states left then.

if i want to drive from new jersey to florida without trouble, i have to go by way of missouri.

it's hell on the car.

 

[WickedEve]

i don't have many states left then.

if i want to drive from new jersey to florida without trouble, i have to go by way of missouri.

it's hell on the car.

Don't try flying over. The order also includes Virginia's air space.

 

[PatCarrington]

Don't try flying over. The order also includes Virginia's air space.

i was thinking of tunneling.

court jurisdiction does penetrate ground does it?......i suppose it does.

sheesh....you'd think they'd leave the dead alone.

 

[WickedEve]

i was thinking of tunneling.

court jurisdiction does penetrate ground does it?......i suppose it does.

sheesh....you'd think they'd leave the dead alone.

No astral projection, either.


And do you realize that 1201 is going to have a fit over all these off-topic posts. Wait, I'm the topic, right?

I must now astral project myself outside for my daily walk.

 

[flyguy69]

They got through. There's a restraining order for you here in VA.

I dunno Pat; a restraining order from Eve sounds more like an invitation than a dismissal!

 

[flyguy69]

No astral projection, either.


And do you realize that 1201 is going to have a fit over all these off-topic posts. Wait, I'm the topic, right?

I must now astral project myself outside for my daily walk.

But apparently you have to keep your ass covered.


Back on topic (for 1201' sake): Since the poem is really about your response to the tragedy in Lodz, I can think of no one better qualified or knowledgable to write it. The difficult parturition suggests this one affected you deeply; it does not want for power.

 

[PatCarrington]

No astral projection, either.


And do you realize that 1201 is going to have a fit over all these off-topic posts. Wait, I'm the topic, right?

I must now astral project myself outside for my daily walk.

happy floating.

about the poem.....i don't quite understand the importance of the internalize/externalize debate.....can no one write quality verse or prose from afar? must one be an immediate victim to capture suffering?

i'm not sure what about the poem displeases you, eve (other than the obvious fact that you did not experience it personally), but i think it is breathtaking.

 

[PatCarrington]

I dunno Pat; a restraining order from Eve sounds more like an invitation than a dismissal!

i like the way you think.