Here we %$@#&* go again . . . 2 firefighters shot dead for no apparent reason
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Balladeer08
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We can only hope that the news media do not give the gunman's name, show his photo, or otherwise aggrandize him.
I have come to believe that the first step in stopping or reducing these incidents is to stop giving these rabid dogs publicity.
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ya see....if they were armed with assault weapons they wouldn't have been ambushed.
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Now if only you could put out a fire by shooting it . . .
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What Obama said about mass murder after the Aurora massacre, at the second presidential debate.
This is interesting, considering what he's saying now, after the Newtown massacre, after reelection:
We’re a nation that believes in the Second Amendment, and I believe in the Second Amendment. We’ve got a long tradition of hunting and sportsmen and people who want to make sure they can protect themselves....
[M]y belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.
But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.
And so what can we do to intervene, to make sure that young people have opportunity; that our schools are working; that if there’s violence on the streets, that working with faith groups and law enforcement, we can catch it before it gets out of control.
And so what I want is a -- is a comprehensive strategy. Part of it is seeing if we can get automatic weapons that kill folks in amazing numbers out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. But part of it is also going deeper and seeing if we can get into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur.
If reelection gives special weight to Obama's policy preferences, we should hold him to what he said to the voters. Now, there's a little something for everyone in those remarks, as my boldfacing highlights. I know — because I live-blogged — that what jumped out at me was the idea of getting "into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur." That seems spookily invasive, like the movie "Minority Report." But after Newtown, I'm drawn to ideas about identifying and stopping those who manifest dangerous mental illness. And yet, if you examine the words from the debate closely, he wasn't talking about finding people with violent impulses and doing something to control them. He was talking about the usual social welfare schemes that promise "opportunity" to "young people." If only they had enough wealth and education, violent impulses would not arise. And so mass murder becomes another reason for the economic policies he already supports anyway.
This is interesting, considering what he's saying now, after the Newtown massacre, after reelection:
We’re a nation that believes in the Second Amendment, and I believe in the Second Amendment. We’ve got a long tradition of hunting and sportsmen and people who want to make sure they can protect themselves....
[M]y belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.
But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.
And so what can we do to intervene, to make sure that young people have opportunity; that our schools are working; that if there’s violence on the streets, that working with faith groups and law enforcement, we can catch it before it gets out of control.
And so what I want is a -- is a comprehensive strategy. Part of it is seeing if we can get automatic weapons that kill folks in amazing numbers out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. But part of it is also going deeper and seeing if we can get into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur.
If reelection gives special weight to Obama's policy preferences, we should hold him to what he said to the voters. Now, there's a little something for everyone in those remarks, as my boldfacing highlights. I know — because I live-blogged — that what jumped out at me was the idea of getting "into these communities and making sure we catch violent impulses before they occur." That seems spookily invasive, like the movie "Minority Report." But after Newtown, I'm drawn to ideas about identifying and stopping those who manifest dangerous mental illness. And yet, if you examine the words from the debate closely, he wasn't talking about finding people with violent impulses and doing something to control them. He was talking about the usual social welfare schemes that promise "opportunity" to "young people." If only they had enough wealth and education, violent impulses would not arise. And so mass murder becomes another reason for the economic policies he already supports anyway.
Gotta love sensationalist media.
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we should just have a police officer assigned to every truck.
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"here we go again"
did it ever stop?
more than 62 mass murders involving guns as the main weapon of attacks since 1982, and way too many gun-related deaths across the states every year.
so long as guns, particularly high-powered/automatic weapons are easily accessible to individuals, legally or otherwise, this will continue to happen . . . the disaffected youth, the frustrated fired worker, the racist and the zealot, the cheated and the bankrupt, those with a grudge, those with nothing to lose and those with a score to settle . . . a legally acquired gun is too easily seen as the answer, and is used with a sense of righteousness.
did it ever stop?
more than 62 mass murders involving guns as the main weapon of attacks since 1982, and way too many gun-related deaths across the states every year.
so long as guns, particularly high-powered/automatic weapons are easily accessible to individuals, legally or otherwise, this will continue to happen . . . the disaffected youth, the frustrated fired worker, the racist and the zealot, the cheated and the bankrupt, those with a grudge, those with nothing to lose and those with a score to settle . . . a legally acquired gun is too easily seen as the answer, and is used with a sense of righteousness.
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that'd be something, wouldn't it?
Most of them use pistols.
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They were volunteer firemen, the killer murdered his granny a while back, and got some draconian group hugs for it before they cut him loose.
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68 semi automatic handguns
35 assault weapons
20 revolvers
19 shotguns
not au fait with guns enough to know what category 'pistols' falls into but would that be 'revolvers'?
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you're repeating yourself re the 'only niggaz' meme - you're nothing but a failed attention whore
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