Here’s why Trump will come out of health-reform debacle relatively unscathed

[TalkRadio]

First, President Trump hasn't been in office very long and the public knows health coverage overhauls aren't easy considering how long the Obama administration took to pass Obamacare even with a big Democratic Party majority in both houses of Congress.

Second, President Trump doesn't have to go up for re-election next year. In 2018, all 240 Republicans in the House of Representatives and eight GOP Republican senators are up for re-election. Their time to turn this situation around is exactly 50 percent smaller than President Trump's.

And don't think that Trump can't use that time to recover politically even if the GOP Congress falters. That's what Bill Clinton did after his party lost control of Congress in 1994. A big part of that loss was connected to Clinton's failed health-care-reform effort. He seemed to do better as a deal-maker with then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich on one hand and also as a representative of the common man during the Republican government shutdown of 1995-96. And he won re-election in 1996 by wider margins in both the Electoral College and popular vote than he did in 1992.

President Barack Obama still won re-election in 2012 after the Democrats were routed from control of the House in 2010. And that loss was also health-policy related as the public wasn't happy with Obamacare even though it actually passed. Even Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer now says passing Obamacare in 2010 was a political mistake for the Democrats.

President Trump has broken a lot of traditional rules in American politics, but don't be surprised if he comes out relatively unscathed from this health bill debacle. Everyone else has much more to worry about.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/19/here...-debacle-relatively-unscathed-commentary.html

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

*chuckle*



I wonder if they will heed his call to cancel the August recess. They might not want to go home and face their voters...

 

[Nipples_Mcgee1]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/19/here...-debacle-relatively-unscathed-commentary.html

Time for a new routine, asshole.

 

[domroger]

Ffs .

 

[TalkRadio]

Ffs .

Ffs?

Are you having facial feminization surgery?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Because he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and he wouldn't lose voters.

 

[TalkRadio]

Time for a new routine, asshole.

Aren't you the Rob alt that nominated him to the GB Hall of Fame?

 

[TalkRadio]

*chuckle*



I wonder if they will heed his call to cancel the August recess. They might not want to go home and face their voters...

The political world is full of wonderful surprises.

 

[TalkRadio]

Because he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and he wouldn't lose voters.

Interesting how the Dems no longer refer to Obamacare as Obamacare. In a matter of days, Dems started referring to Obamacare as the ACA.

Obama must be pissed his signature legislation has become a political liability that no one wants to "own."

 

[phrodeau]

Trump inserts oar, paddles backwards.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Interesting how the Dems no longer refer to Obamacare as Obamacare. In a matter of days, Dems started referring to Obamacare as the ACA.

Obama must be pissed his signature legislation has become a political liability that no one wants to "own."

In fucking mass they are all DESPERATE not to own Dear Leader's landmark achievement in US healthcare reform...LMFAO!!!!

Couldn't wash their hands of that disaster fast enough

 

[handysr]

Interesting how the Dems no longer refer to Obamacare as Obamacare. In a matter of days, Dems started referring to Obamacare as the ACA.

Obama must be pissed his signature legislation has become a political liability that no one wants to "own."

That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.


I mostly agree with the OP that Trump will come out unscathed. There will be that small super-vocal-whiney-ass-baby group (like Lit's libs) that will hate him for everything he does, and half of the media will still be making up stories about him.

Makes me wonder now how many of the big fake news outlets will be around in 3.5 years. If nobody pays attention to them because of their lies, except the dozen or so libtards here, how will the company stay around. CNN might turn into a National Enquirer type of joke by then.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/19/here...-debacle-relatively-unscathed-commentary.html

And don't think that Trump can't use that time to recover politically even if the GOP Congress falters.

The President had an approval rating of 46% at the time of his election. Nine months later he has the lowest approval rating of any President this far into his first term since modern polling began.

When it comes to "recovering" politically, time is one of the many things that does not seem to be on the President's side.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Polls are all over the place, but the lowest rating ever poll is a true outlier...

 

[TalkRadio]

That's hilarious! Thanks for the laugh.


I mostly agree with the OP that Trump will come out unscathed. There will be that small super-vocal-whiney-ass-baby group (like Lit's libs) that will hate him for everything he does, and half of the media will still be making up stories about him.

Makes me wonder now how many of the big fake news outlets will be around in 3.5 years. If nobody pays attention to them because of their lies, except the dozen or so libtards here, how will the company stay around. CNN might turn into a National Enquirer type of joke by then.

I love watching the Obamafiles circle the wagons around a man whose presidency is rapidly becoming nothing more than a footnote in history.

 

[TalkRadio]

The President had an approval rating of 46% at the time of his election. Nine months later he has the lowest approval rating of any President this far into his first term since modern polling began.

When it comes to "recovering" politically, time is one of the many things that does not seem to be on the President's side.

Time and circumstances have always been Donald Trump's friends. I suspect those relationships are as strong as they've ever been.

Need proof? He's a 71-year-old billionaire that beat the Clinton machine and the mainstream media to become the 45th President of the United States.

Polls? The same pollsters that predicted a Clinton landslide?

 

[Libsam]

Obamacare, the USA's Great Leap Forward!

 

[Rightguide]

The President had an approval rating of 46% at the time of his election. Nine months later he has the lowest approval rating of any President this far into his first term since modern polling began.

When it comes to "recovering" politically, time is one of the many things that does not seem to be on the President's side.

I don't know if the polls can be believed. They couldn't be believed before he was elected either. The last one I saw, an NBC poll a few days ago, was heavily weighted with Democrats, only 23% Republicans polled.

 

[Disgustipated]

I don't know if the polls can be believed. They couldn't be believed before he was elected either. The last one I saw, an NBC poll a few days ago, was heavily weighted with Democrats, only 23% Republicans polled.

You post polls all the time. Which ones do you feel are unbelievable - of the ones you always post?

 

[Rightguide]

Polls are all over the place, but the lowest rating ever poll is a true outlier...

All of a sudden 63 million Americans decided their new found heroes are on the left and in the Deep State.

 

[spacekowboy]

Because of his hoards of apologists?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Hoards?


lol


Why not just go full mental Peregrinator and start demanding our explanation of why NRO is calling for him to be investigated...

 

[Hypoxia]

I don't know if the polls can be believed. They couldn't be believed before he was elected either. The last one I saw, an NBC poll a few days ago, was heavily weighted with Democrats, only 23% Republicans polled.

Maybe because many more Demos and Indies than Guppies exist in the populace? Unlike gerrymanderers, pollsters use representative samples. A California poll that sampled only Gups and Dums 50/50 would be blatantly skewed. And a state where 40% of the voters elect 60% of the legislators is blatantly gerrymandered. What's your favorite bias?

As for the 2016 election polls: They predicted that Hillary would win the popular vote by ~3% and she took it by ~2% which is within margin of error. But she just didn't take ~75k votes in three counties. She won the nation and lost the game. Ain't life the shits?

 

[Rightguide]

Maybe because many more Demos and Indies than Guppies exist in the populace? Unlike gerrymanderers, pollsters use representative samples. A California poll that sampled only Gups and Dums 50/50 would be blatantly skewed. And a state where 40% of the voters elect 60% of the legislators is blatantly gerrymandered. What's your favorite bias?

As for the 2016 election polls: They predicted that Hillary would win the popular vote by ~3% and she took it by ~2% which is within margin of error. But she just didn't take ~75k votes in three counties. She won the nation and lost the game. Ain't life the shits?

Only 29% of Americans self-identify as Democrats, 26% as Republicans. Yet Republicans control 60% of the state governorships and legislatures.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Because of his hoards of apologists?

You realize, of course, that kind of argues against the 36% figure.