Help with Word; technical

[Pure]

I know this thread is a tangent, but no more so than "My armadillo died today."

Would some technical person explain how to control whether quote marks are 'tipped' or not--i.e., whether opening quote marks have a slant [like \] opposite to closing ones [like /].

Right now, I remember. in the dim past. setting it so that all marks are straight up--i.e., you cant distinguish an opening quote from a closing one. This, I remember, was supposed to have some utility at Literotica.

I know the terminology is not quite correct here.

How do i reset? (to tipped)

Can anyone remind me why, at literotica, when submitting, the 'straight up' ones are supposed to be better? Are the tipped ones misread, or something?

Thanks.

PS. If you're typing dialogue, under the 'tipped' option, what the f*** do you do if you see the 'tip' went in the wrong direction? (This 'wrong direction' problem being one reason, I guess, for using the 'straight up' ones.)

 

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[Alex De Kok]

Tools/Autocorrect/Autoformat in Word 2000 which is what I have (but don't use!)

You want SmartQuotes 'On' for the 'pretty' ones. I think the reason for using straight quotes was cutting-and-pasting into a submission window could lead to formatting problems when the submission became a web page, although I'm sure someone can give a technical explanation.

As far as your PS goes, Word's pretty smart (in some areas) and usually gets it right. If it 'tips' the wrong way, try typing the second quote - which will tip t'other way - and delete the one you don't want!

Alex

 

[fogbank]

It has to do with the character sets. Basically, the straight quotes are part of the general ascii character set, or something like that. The smart quotes aren't part of this character set. Depending on the server technology in question, smart quotes can be interpretted in different ways. Basically, as far as most servers are concerned, they're from a completely different alphabet than most characters.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Straight "quote" are like this, while these “quote” I have always heard refereed to as “curley-quotes.”

It depends upon which word processor generated them, and how it was set.

If you add a "quote" on the Lit field, they will be straight.

 

[Pure]

Thanks for the help, folks. I find located topics in menus quite baffling. For some reason, 'autoformat' is under the 'format' file-head.

Yes, I now recall something about Literotica story set up doing weird things with curly quotes, though I just pasted some into a thread (from a Word doc) with no probs.

One last question: other than creating a Word doc, and pasting it here, is there any way, in a posting/reply to type an accented e(acute), looks sorta like e'. I have Word set up so the Ctr ' followed by e does the job in a Word doc (similarly for other accents).

 

[patrick1]

pure

You can insert ascii characters. Here for instance is cliché.

The e acute is done by an ampersand, followed by a hash, followed by 233, followed by a semi-colon.

There are lists around of the standard numbers. But actually it's just about as fast to cut and paste from Word, unless you easily remember the numbers.

Perhaps somebody more technical around here can tell us how to make a macro out of this.

patrick

 

[Weird Harold]

Thanks for the help, folks. I find located topics in menus quite baffling. For some reason, 'autoformat' is under the 'format' file-head.

Yes, I now recall something about Literotica story set up doing weird things with curly quotes, though I just pasted some into a thread (from a Word doc) with no probs.

The information you need is in the Help Menu under "Smart Quotes" and "Changing mart Quotes to Straight Quotes" -- at least those are the Help topics in Word 97.

Smart Quotes, and other "Special Characters" -- like a single character Ellipsis, Em-dash, En-dash, Accented characters, etc -- are handled differently by different fonts, word processers and browsers. This results in uncertain results when you convert a Word Document to HTML format -- especially when cutting and pasting into an HTML input form.

One last question: other than creating a Word doc, and pasting it here, is there any way, in a posting/reply to type an accented e(acute), looks sorta like e'. I have Word set up so the Ctr ' followed by e does the job in a Word doc (similarly for other accents).

In MS Word -- or any MS program -- holding the Alt Key down and typing a three digit decimal number on the numeric key pad (NOT on the number keys of the mainkeyboard) will generate the characters assigned to that number in the Font you're using.

However, when dealing with HTML and browsers, special characters are best created with the named codes for the characters:

(precede each name with '&' to display the character)

eacute = &eacute
Eacute = &Eacute
egrave = &egrave
Egrave = &Egrave
aelig =&aelig
AElig = &AElig

A complete list can be found in the appendices to HTML For Dummies or an HTML reference online.