have you ever seen anything paranormal ?

[sexy-girl]

me personally i dont believe in ghosts or ufo's or anything much that is paranormal


but that is only because i've never seen it ... i would never believe something like that until i saw it for myself i think


but i wondered what sort of people claim to have seen these things ... maybe it would be harder for me to dismiss the idea if a person here claimed to have seen something of this sort


so please no lie's be honest and tell me if you've seen something you havent been able to explain ... dont worry i wont call you a liar or anything but forgive me advance if i still dont believe

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

sexy-girl all I'll say publicly is i've seen 'things'
I can't explain if they were real or if they were just in my mind.
But i've seen them and they scare the hell out of me at times.

 

[sarahuk4]

Sexy-girl, I have seen 3 ghosts, one when I was very young at 18, one at 29 and the other one 5 years ago when I was 43 ....so I am no young thing thinking she has seen things ......The first was an old lady whom stated she would haunt a certain place, the second was my friends Mum who came back while I was bottle feeding her grandaughter , and asked me to look after her daughter (my friend).....and the 3rd was my own Auntie , whom I miss dreadfully .......People who "know " me on this board will know I am level headed and not the type to make things up .....so please beleive me , Ghosts do excist .......

 

[Scabbers]

You mean outside of this place? Oh wait, I thought you said abnormal .
Nevermind.

 

[Guest]

Oh yes. Me in the mirror after a long night of raising cain. Thank god i am too old to drink like that anymore. I swear there were three of me in the mirror and the odd things was each of my faces looked oddly different. lol. They all, however, looked dead.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

"Paranormal"? Well, my wife and I are a pretty normal pair.

Ghosts don't exist. Neither does telepathy, telekenisis, predestination, precognition, extra sensory perception, astral projection, the philosopher's egg or the personality shaping influence of the stars.

There are too many explanations that are better than "ghosts" ("There is more of gravy than the grave about you..."). Too many to go into here. All of which are more plausible, but none of which are as sexy as the supernatural.

Not to mention the question of "Why should there be ghosts?" What the hell good are they? Do all things that live have ghosts? Dogs? Cats? Worms? What make homo sapien so special that he and he alone should have shades of his biological shell haunt him after expiration?

Preternatural experiences are imagined conscious and subconsious experiences; they are extensions of our animal psyche fractured by the neurosis brought about by civilization building (in conflict with our more base, animal urges); they are wish fullfillment, suggestion, symbols that when looked for are found, and misinterpreations of patterns that exist natually; and they are just another way of centering the universe around the concerns of Man (like the earth-centric view of the universe and placing Jeruslam at the center of Medieval maps and having God create us in his own image). They are a vanity.

[By the way -- I've known many people who've told me they've seen ghosts, including relatives and close friends, so I know exactly what it feels like to have that experience and then have someone like me say, "No! You didn't see what you said you saw!" I know how annoying that is. I'm sorry. I'm truly am. I know it even sounds insulting, but it isn't, really.]

If you have a real ghost story and would like to make a million dollars go here: James Randi Educational Foundation

 

[TN_Vixen]

Ghosts don't exist. Neither does telepathy, telekenisis, predestination, precognition, extra sensory perception, astral projection, the philosopher's egg or the personality shaping influence of the stars.

Ah, glad to know this is cleared up. Whoever would've thunk it to ask DCL about the mysterious ways of the world?

It's been my experience that people who cannot believe in anything that has no tangible explaination are very dull indeed.

To answer the question, yes I believe in ghosts and yes I have seen one, vanity notwithstanding.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

It's been my experience that people who cannot believe in anything that has no tangible explaination are very dull indeed.

Then your experience is limited. Truth is far stranger, and far less dull, than fiction.

 

[Starfish]

DCL, would you mind explaining a few things to me?
I am serious. I am not contesting your beliefs, but I am wondering what you or others make of these things.


On August 8, 2001, I was laying in bed, on my stomach, around 5:30 am. I was woken by a feeling that I needed to get up, but I still just laid there in the silence. I suddenly felt a huge pressure on my back, and heard very loudly, in my left ear (the one turned up due to my head being laid on the right side) "TONIGHT" in my Grandfathers voice. I wasn't scared by it, but when the pressure lifted off my chest and back, I sat up and looked around and though "huh", and laid back down, and went to sleep again.
The next day my Mother called here and told be that he died at 9pm the night before.

On the morning of the 11th of September, I had been up all night, and I was getting really weary around 7:30 am. I was trying to convince myslef to just stay up and get stuff done, but was too beat. I went up and laid in bed for about 45 minutes and couldn't fall asleep. I was not even dozing when in my left ear I started to hear 'thunder' as if it were starting to storm, but my dog laid on his bed motionless. After the first sound of thunder, a second one happened a few minutes later, and I got up because I could see through the blinds and the sky was blue and clear. I heard the rumbling and it made me very uneasy. I opened the window and listened with the right side of my head, and heard nothing coming in, but heard it rumbling in the left side of my head. I started to feel shaky, but I attributed it to lack of sleep.
However, I decided to go out and dig holes in the garden to prep for transplanting. I got out there around 9 am, and began to dig. I got three holes dug, and suddenly felt as if I were hit over the back of the head by a blunt object and I fell down. I came to my senses and my head was pounding hard and pulsating. I've never felt anything like it. It hurt really bad, so I made it to the deck and sat for a bit. I felt as if it had been split open. I came inside after a bit, and around 9:35 I signed onto lit to see TNVixen's thread about the first crash. I turned the tv on just as the second plane hit. My head increased in pain as I watched it happen, and I felt strongly that it was correlated for if I hadn't 'heard' those rumblings that I would have gone to sleep and not know of it at all.

As that week progressed I had only managed to feed my pets, and fish when needed, but did no tank maintainance all week.
Friday night after the attack I had finally got some sleep, however I dreamt that I was at one of the fishtanks, kneeling down, saying "David look.... babies." and pointing at them.
That next morning, David was sleeping in, and I got up and was fucking around on the computer all morning. Around 11 am, I went and turned all of the lights on, I knelt down to get the food container, and looked up and staring at me in the thicket of plants were three tiny little white whisps of baby fish. I found another 5 babies in all. They were the first baby fish we've ever had.

Everytime the phone rings, and it is my best friend Cass, I nail it that it is her, before I ever pick up the phone and NO, I don't have caller ID.

Several weeks ago, David sat with a deck of cards and held them and flipped one up and saw it, would think about it, and out of 52 cards, I got 30 right. I realize I could have been lucky, but everyone I got wrong he admitted to not being able to focus on them very well.

Two weeks ago, I stood at the bathroom sink brushing my teeth, and suddenly thought..... "Jeremy is coming over tomorrow." Whoopi-di-do right? We havn't seen Jeremy in over a year and a half. I hadn't thought of him ever coming over before that since we fell out of contact. He showed up at 3 pm the next day, as I had suddenly thought he would, the night before.

What do you think about this stuff, because I honestly have yet to formulate an opinion. I have not lied or altered what happened here in anyway. I am serious about all of this, and I am wondering what the deal is then, if this isn't about telepathy at all.

Have you got an explaination, because wish fulfillment isn't an option about the trade center collapse, and the others were so obsure that I am convinced there is something to them.

 

[Mistress]

Yes.

 

[sarahuk4]

Starfish, I think you will find this interesting .....I went to visit a "true Romany" , who was in a wagon around my area , she was literally a "true Romany" , no bright lights or anything .....well i walked up to her , asked if she could read my palm or tarot cards , she looked at me ......I said I will cross your palm .....and she looked , and said "NO".........I asked her what she meant .....she said "NO!! go away !!!"........I was really shaken by this ......Romanies never ever say NO to money , EVER........what did she see in me ?......

 

[KillerMuffin]

I once saw the StudMuffin have an enjoyable conversation with a lawyer who was trying to get a gun control measure pushed through the state legislature. I thought the world had ended and I missed it.

The thing about proof... How do you define proof?

We know that Mercury exists. We have pictures of it. We see it in the sky. Is that proof?

We know that black holes exist. We can almost define them mathematically. No one has ever seen one. Is that proof?

We know the snow leopard exists. Only a handful of people have ever seen one and there are no photographys. Is that proof?

Can you prove your own existence? Can you prove someone else exists?

When you demand proof and accept nothing on faith, then you cannot even prove that anything exists beyond yourself. The pitfall of cogito ergo sum.

 

[Starfish]

Wow. That is strange. Normally the money thing is important to them.

What experiances have you had?

 

[sarahuk4]

Starfish , I am actually too scared to say on here , if you want to know pm me ok .......people will think i am "weird" ......

 

[Starfish]

Sarahuk, I know what you mean. I too, feel odd about sharing certain things on here... Like the fact that ice cream makes me poo.

The pitfall of cogito ergo sum.

I love when you slip yourself in, past me, and post the most enlightening information, and verification that I am truly, in fact, not nuts..

 

[MidnightsBlue]

Yes

I do believe although never actually seen one but sensed them around. example seen things move...... picture frames drop when no one was around to make it fall or sense that my mother was around by smelling her perfume when no one else could smell it.

 

[TN_Vixen]

Fishy

wrong. Officially you are nuts. ;-) Ice cream makes you poo? Say shit, not poo, mkay?

 

[lillend]

Truth is stranger than fiction.....I think my truth is a bit different than yours though. I believe in the paranormal, it is true to me.

I lived with a ghost as a child. I have at times wondered if perhaps that I invented the ghost with my imagination...I was a child after all. I do not believe that to be the case though. I was also not the only one to see the ghost. It was seen by all three of my sisters, my mother, and my best friend. This ghost was a man and he always appeared in my bedroom. I often woke in the middle of the night to see him standing at the foot of my bed and I came to think of him as a guardian. I was never afraid of him, a little shocked the first time, but never afraid.

I was a freshman in highschool when we moved out of that house. My sisters and I were cleaning out the shed. I was raking the dirt floor when I saw a small piece of paper come up with the dirt. I bent down, picked it up and found that it was a yellowed picture of a man, a familiar man. I showed it to my sisters and we all recognized him as being "our" ghost.

I do not know why there are ghosts, but I do believe that they are there. I believe every living thing has a soul, including animals. I think it is possible that a persons soul will choose to linger at a certain place for any number of reasons. I believe it is possible for an animals soul to do the same. I think that human ghosts are more common for the simple reason that animals do not tend to be sentimental nor do they have the pressing emotions of humans. I do not see many circumstances that would cause an animal to wish to linger after the body has died, but I see many reasons that a human would do so.

 

[Starfish]

Poo. Poo nuts. Poo nuts, shit.

Shit.

Okay, I can do it.

Shit, shit, shitty, shit, shit, shit....

 

[TN_Vixen]

Y'all Do Realize

that since DCL has unequivacally denounced ghosts that it won't be long before he is visited by the ghosts of Christmas Past, Present & Future. You have been warned Dixie.

 

[Angel]

Fishy, you should find and bump that thread with the "man" pics in your basement.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Have you got an explaination

Yes. Coincidence.

Sounds pat, right? But consider...

We are pattern seeking creatures. Everything we do and decide and experience in life is guided, swayed and defined by patterns. This is how our brain works. This is how children build their brain synapses, by repeating patterns (this is why children ask you to read the same book 50 times in row). We not only notice patterns, but everything we see and experience we try to place into a pattern.

Now, every once in a while, even once a day or more, one event is going to mesh with a distant event or experience. When that happens we immediately establish the two as a connected "pattern". It's amazing! It's astonishing!

It's commonplace.

In fact, what's really amazing and astonishing is that it doesn't happen more often.

You never reacll the hundreds of time the phone rings and you incorrectly guessed who was on the other line, or the time you flipped though a deck of cards and guessed every single card wrong. You don't remember those times. You only remember the tiems you got it right.

Here's an example. A man plays poker three nights a week with his buddies, and at least once a night he prays to God to give him a good hand. Two years go by, and one night he gets a Royal Flush dealt to him when there's a lot of money on the table. Was his prayer answered? OR is he just forgetting the two years when his prayer wasn't answered?

Here's another. What are the odds of my shuffling a deck of cards, and having the cards finish the mixing in perfect order from ace to king, one suit after another? The odds of that happending would have to be pretty astronomical wouldn't you say?

Actually, the odds are exactly the same as the cards ending up in any other order. But, the million times you shuffle the deck and this doens't happen, you don't think twice about it. The ONE time is does happen, would be enough of a "miracle" to make you swear something "preternatural" had taken place. Now, the brain is going to match this marked event to a pattern. Wait! Didn't your horoscope say today that your life would start "getting itself in order today"? Oh my GOD!!!!

Alright, alright, the above seems silly in comparison to what you say you've gone through -- but I can't really answer what happens to you because I'm not there.

Still, understanding that coincidences happen all the time, and that we only notice them when our brain matches them up into patterns, should make you at least look at the next event and ask "Is this a conicidence?" before wondering "Is this supernatural?"

Just one tiny, little explanation out of hundreds I could give you. The point is, those expalanations, as un-sexy and mundane as they are, exist -- and ALL of them are more credible than "Magic", and should be considered first.

It's amazing to me how easily people leap right to the magic without taking a moment to consider the more likely expalanations.

 

[TN_Vixen]

DCL

I hear the chains rattling at your door.

 

[Dixon Carter Lee]

Oh that? That's just the water heater gurgling. It always does that.

See how this works?

 

[Starfish]

Yeah Angel, you know what?

Shit has been flying out of the cabinets at me a lot lately. I am also having some other things come up, but the bruisings are getting better. I have less and less of them all of the time. The image has a big smile on it's face now, so I assume that my accepting it has allowed it to feel comfortable here, because it isn't appearantly planning on going anywhere.

Oh, and I found out that I can't just go tearing that wall down like we had all disscussed It'd cost too much to fix, and it could cave the back of the house in.

I am going to try and find it, but I don't even remember the thread title.

Oh, and now, David said that his smoking room is always having shit go on now... He said that he hears someone walking around in there, and if he goes in, it'll be really cold even though the register is open. That was the most active room in the house, back when it was my bedroom. Also, he said that if he is in there, it sounds like someone is walking around in the hallway outside the door, and sometimes he hears knocking in the ceiling. I haven't 'seen' it or them, or whatever around, but it's/they/them are here still.