Have you ever really loved a Woman

[wildrose70]

Okay I know thats a song title..but I'm feeling romantic this time of year...well I guess I'm always feeling romantic...not horny, just romantic...I can't get enough of romance...being loved...anyhow my question has to do with...do you consider your self a lover of woman...I mean a real lover...taking into consideration their thoughts, their feelings and not just getting to it and getting off!!
In my opinion...thats not the way to make a woman feel loved and to make her want to pleasure her man in return...

This thread is meant for the women of Lit to respond too...and of course all you lovely men out there...so tell me....Have You??
Loved a Woman....making sure you give her all the pleasure she desires>>>
To me that is one sure way to insure you will be invited back to her bed!
Oh BTW...Merry Christmas everyone....

 

[tn_8tiv]

...do you consider your self a lover of woman...I mean a real lover...taking into consideration their thoughts, their feelings and not just getting to it and getting off!!
In my opinion...thats not the way to make a woman feel loved and to make her want to pleasure her man in return...

Rose, is this a trick question? I've loved most women I've been with. No, not just getting to it and getting off. Especially as I get older (and I'm already older than dirt according to my grandkids), love becomes very important. It's no longer about quantity but quality that's important and without love there's only s.s....s sex! Damn, that's hard to say

 

[wildrose70]

No tn that wasn't a trick question!! And I like the way you think...what got me thinking along these lines...a gentleman I had met that had lots of good qualities...seemed to think that lovemaking consisted of these three things!!
Get it hard

Get it in

and Get off..him I mean..LOL...

And doesnt know the meaning of the word "foreplay"
Perhaps thats why he is no longer in the picture

 

[wkdclwn]

I Love

foreplay. I would much rather take my time and have her take her time as well. No need to rush through anything. Just enjoy the moment of being with each other. The act of lovemaking has alot more to do with enjoying each other than getting off. At least.... in my humble opinion. Later.

 

[Nicodemus]

Yes.....

The first time I fell in love was a beautiful thing. It taught me about real happiness. I learned about pain on levels and in ways I never thought possible when it ended. The depth and breadth of it can be astounding both in terms of the joy and pain. I also learned about strength I did not know I had....recovering from love ending was hard but looking back it taught me more about myself. She will always be with me.

Loving women is a many splendored thing. More complex than any other puzzle....a puzzle worth spending a lifetime trying to solve and knowing that there will always be more to learn. Knowing what women want is not the hard part. They will tell you if you ask sincerely. Knowing when they want it is the trick that we as men need to learn.

I extend a thank you to the women out there......for all the frsustration, pain, happiness, joy, learning, understanding, support, and love they give.

Nic,
*burned by love, yes; given up on it, never*

 

[wildrose70]

Kudo's to both of you Nic and Wkd...
Such great answeres..you both must make all the women in your life very very happy...and Nic..have you ever considered writing as a hobby?? Wonderful way with words...and Wkd..your answer was exactly what I was looking for...

 

[tn_8tiv]

No tn that wasn't a trick question!! And I like the way you think...what got me thinking along these lines...a gentleman I had met that had lots of good qualities...seemed to think that lovemaking consisted of these three things!!
Get it hard

Get it in

and Get off..him I mean..LOL...

And doesnt know the meaning of the word "foreplay"
Perhaps thats why he is no longer in the picture

No Rose, that wasn't a gentleman. That was a selfish bastard that doesn't have a clue about what it takes to please a woman. (Not to mention himself). You can get it hard, get it in, and get off using your own devices When you feel a woman respond to your sensual touch, feel her passion build and feel her throbbing with emotion as she reaches her orgasm gives a man a much bigger high than just shooting your jism, rolling over and going to sleep. But, some boys never grow up, sexually, mentally or emotionally.

 

[wildrose70]

Your so right Tn...and that's what he did before me met me...and believe me he will be doing alone again!!!
One of the most unselfish lovers and this is for the older men on Lit...was a wonderful 71 year old who really really knew how to make a woman respond...and never rushed it and waited until you were spent with passion...and even thou he did have a little problem of his own...he did very well for me...and I of course returned the "favor"....
But so far your all right...lovemaking and that's what I prefer to call it...is far more then getting yourself off!!!

Sexy in So. Dak

 

[Nicodemus]

Thanks for the compliment . You are the fourth person to tell me that recently. I may have to give that some serious thought.

Nic,

 

[MrFla]

The glass is half empty

For every woman that doesn't get a call back the day after...there's a really nice guy shot down who can't get a date.

Personally, when I was younger I was fat fat fat, couldn't get a date to save my life. I was the nicest guy you would ever meet. Don't get me wrong, the female form turned me on, but I wanted the whole package, someone to share something with. Didn't happen. I heard every excuse in the book. Some just told me, no your fat. Understood. I didn't cry in my beer or wear my heart out on my sleeve. I became the dateless wonder, but generally a realistic cheerful guy, optimist extroidaniare.

Then a funny thing happend. I lost the weight. You'd be surprised how quickly my social schedule filled up. I dated for the first time in my life (I was 23) and was pretty successful at it. But I noticed something, if I ever went out of my way for someone, they became suspicious and jaded and shyed away.

One lady in particular for a first date I made a home made meal...even made the ravioli myself, and brought a table, chairs and candles down to a park on the river and dined her in one of the most beautiful spots in the area. Made pleasant conversation, had music and danced, had a great night, took her home and was a complete gentleman. Never got a call back. I was later told that the whole production was too much and that for me to go through that much trouble and not try to get laid was crazy, and that's why I didn't get called back...go figure.

Then I lost my virginity and fell madly in love and it worked for a while, until she began to bang her ex again.

Then I met another wonderful woman, and all went well, except for the night she smacked me in the head with a cast iron frying pan because she was sure I was cheating on her.

Then I met another wonderful woman. I later learned that she was bisexual, no problem. Then I learned that she had a lover for ten years, no problem. Then I learned that she was still married but separated for eight years, no problem. Then I learned she had a kid, no problem. Then she wanted me to be friends with the husband, the kid, the lover and wanted me to marry her, problem.

Then when I moved back to where I was from, all the people who knew me as a fat person looked at me differently. All of a sudden my jokes weren't as funny. If I didn't go out with a girl I was a snob. Friends girlfriends and wives came on to me, guys accused me of hitting on their girlfriends, some of them I had introduced or asked out before. I lost lots of friends. I wasn't the safe fat guy.

Work was a totally new experience. Fat guys don't get sexually harassed, people don't make judgements about them or think they are out to get their job.

I guess I sound pretty self centered and in this limited context it's true. It still bugs me. I didn't handle it too well. I turned into the very jerk that used to bug me. I became the very guy you are talking about. I slept with a lot of people. Went to the complete opposite end of the spectrum for a while. I slept with about 30 women in two years. On one day in particular I woke up with one girl, left her at my place, went to another girls place and did her and her roomate, went to a fourth girls for dinner, and then went back home to the one hanging out at my place the next day.

That became the standard for a while. For the last few years I haven't really had a chance to date, between career and obligations to sick family members I've had a rough run.

My point is (Thank God he finally has a point), we are all responsible for what we do and how we do it. Personally, I lost
faith and belief in what I held to be important.

I could have remained a good guy. It didn't seem worth it to me. Why be a good guy and tell the truth about everything when I can omit the truth (still can't lie), be cold and callous and get laid.

I guess the wake up call was when I finally decided to get a serious of STD tests, which thank god were all negative. I learned that I was playing with fire.

Now, I'm not the pussy that I was, but I'm not the optimistic cheerful guy I used to be either, and I've spent the last few years trying to get back there.

I guess one of my biggest faults throughout all of this was taking people for granted, something which in friendship I rarely do. I also didn't take into account for peoples experiences and why people do things the way they do. Moreover, I allowed that to let me lose focus on what was important.

I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but well it's what I have to offer.

 

[wkdclwn]

Thank you WildRose... glad I could answer honestly and hopefully give you more faith that there are good guys out there. Personally I would much rather please the woman than to have her please me. And MrFla... I know exactly what you mean. I was once well over 300 pounds and always got looked at in a different light. Now I am well under 300 and it is like a whole new life. People look at you totally different than ever before. I don`t have the same friends anymore for some reason. I have a select few that were always there and I expect to always be there. Losing weight was a great thing and really improved my self esteem and image, but there are always consequences to even the greatest of things. Take care everyone. Later.

 

[wildrose70]

Yes Wk..you sure did...it restores my faith in human nature....and believe me guys I can sort of relate to the weight thing...not that I was that heavy but I fought the weight problem all my life...I think I was born being on a diet...but finally got down to my fighting weight...LOL
And I do have a daughter who has always had a weight problem...but you know her attitude and her personality makes her a wonderful person to be around and she's as crazy as her mom!!!
To me what a person looks like has nothing to do with the kind of person they are inside....each and every person has their own unique personality...

 

[bluespoke]

Rose

I read your new thread some hours ago and I wanted to respond immediately but I stopped to think (which for me is unusual). I read the other replies, agreed with most and the came to my own succinct (maybe misguided, I don't know) conclusion.

Love her mind, listen to her thoughts, respond to her ideas, worship her body and above all be what most man are incapable of, PATIENT. You will feel better, she may like you a little more.

 

[MizTabby]

Okay I know thats a song title..but I'm feeling romantic this time of year...well I guess I'm always feeling romantic...not horny, just romantic...I can't get enough of romance...being loved...anyhow my question has to do with...do you consider your self a lover of woman...I mean a real lover...taking into consideration their thoughts, their feelings and not just getting to it and getting off!!
In my opinion...thats not the way to make a woman feel loved and to make her want to pleasure her man in return...

This thread is meant for the women of Lit to respond too...and of course all you lovely men out there...so tell me....Have You??
Loved a Woman....making sure you give her all the pleasure she desires>>>
To me that is one sure way to insure you will be invited back to her bed!
Oh BTW...Merry Christmas everyone....

Bravo for this most interesting thread Lady Rose and it's quite enlightening reading the responses.

I've always been in the fat but safe category, although I got promoted to the BBW status LOL and personality, charm, wit, generous nature, all the nice adjectives you could apply to a wholesome, honest, thoughtful and loving person, have never quite seemed to match up to the "Perfect 10".
I was the female version of MrFla (before he became desireable lol) until a gent came along who loved me for ME, and all my assorted bulges. It was short-term, because he worked in a country where I also worked, and eventually had to leave for another assignment, which I knew from the start. But, thanks to his consideration and amorous display of feelings, I felt like the most beautiful girl around, I was treated with respect and care and the lovemaking was superb!
Funny thing, having been on the shelf for long periods at a time, the same men I'd not got that call back from, suddenly expressed an "interest" while I was involved with Mr Wonderful, go figure, must have been the glow

* * * 'Tis the Season for Love and Loving * * *

 

[wildrose70]

Again Blue..spoken like the true gentleman you are...believe in her, love her, pamper her...and you will truly be rewarded with the love of a good woman!

 

[wildrose70]

Mistique..Your so right my dear...women who are loved give off the special glow...and other men notice it believe me...and isnt it funny that they do begin to take an interest after someone else has stolen your heart and made you feel like the woman you always were....
if you read my post about my daughter..then you will understand that that to me all people are beautiful...because beauty comes from within...she was heavy from the age of a teenager...but I never saw her like that..only the goodness and fun loving person she is and her husband loves her dearly....

and believe me there is no "perfect" 10 ...we are just brainwashed to think that...

Peace on earth...Goodwill to all!!
Love your fellow men....as often as you can

 

[scrymettet]

In love

Did I love a women ? Making her happiness, joy, confort and pleasure my only goal ? Is there another way ? I am like yvy, I will die where I rooted.
I will add that loving a women who is in love with you in heaven on earth.

 

[intellisex514]

love

A great thread. Believe it or not, this is why I started to read the personals in the first place. I fell truly in love for the first time 4 years ago when I was 37. I experienced the bliss and deep sorrow that being in love and ending the relationship brings. For fear of rambling on about this experience, I will simply say that I felt so alive. All senses and experiences were heightened. It is like morphing (can you tell that I have kids?) into a Superhuman with heightened perceptive and insightful powers. I could go on, but I won't. Looking forward to reading other thoughts.

 

[wildrose70]

I think I pushed the right buttons with this thread...it's nice to know so many of you have had a wonderful love in your life and that the greatest share of you...agree with my perception of making a woman know she is loved....I'm delighted to read all the responses

 

[Eroticus]

Have fallen in gut wrenching, mind boggling, tummy fluttering, head spinning, brain numbing, foolish, insane and mind blowing love twice. I will never ever ever forget those days, and those people will always be special to me.

On the other hand I have made slow, gentle, erotic, passionate love to many women. I worship a woman's body and always treat it with the respect it deserves, even when the lovemaking becomes wild and uninhibited.

 

[wildrose70]

Erocticus....you are every woman's dream of a lover...my my you do have a way with the words...who could help falling in love with you
I enjoyed your posting very much....and keep believing in love and romance!!

 

[naughtywoman69]

I must say this thread not only made me sad but also gave me hope. I have been married a very long time. I've also had a few lovers. I have never, ever experienced the kind of love making described in some of these posts. I thought it was only in fantasy land. I now have hope that not all men are the kind that put it in, pump twice, roll over and go to sleep.

 

[wildrose70]

For the men out there who are truly romanantic lovers...you are giving us ladies hope that all is not lost...I didnt mean to make anyone sad...but as you can tell I'm a firm believer in romance...not the old Wham Bang..and sometimes not even a Thank You Mam!!!


and for those of you that dont realize this...men I feel sorry for you
Love a woman, make her feel special....it's worth all the extra effort and who knows you might even enjoy it better!

 

[wildrose70]

this is for EOD. I lost the thread somehow with your question about pics....if you want to write..please use my email...wld be nice to hear from a woman..

 

[Randy]

Love

My answer would be I don't know so I guess not. I've either had great sex or a great connection with mediocre sex. I'm in pursuit of a great passionate love, deeper than kinship wider than sexual satisfaction. Does it exist? Can it exist? Can we have one and outsource the other?
Ideal: someone to get drunk with and tell all your shamefull secrets in life without insecurity or judgement, and then have three days of passion and sexual fulfillment without a word spoken. Experimentation, desire...honesty, trust. Naughty yet nice. Slut whore yet mother and wife. Is she out there?


In a fit of a dream or a knightmare
cloudy, sleepy vision
Dark, confused awakeness
I arise
Shaken sweaty longing
A vision she swifts across the room and out
I chase she pauses before the door-faceless beauty
sheer robe fiowing and is gone
I rush through the door calling but she is gone
never to return once again.
Haunted by her I cry, my loss is deep yet again
I look up to the glowing haze of a moonlit sky
Why, why can't it be
I return my bed, sleep escapes me, I lie awake
My lover beside me, unknowing, serene and incomplete.

Randy