Harley Quinn

[emap]

Well no not really, it's a little funny, Joker and Harley aren't really supervillains anyway. They are just a couple creative nutjobs that a regular super trained guy takes down alot.

Course for my purposes there isn't a super hero, just these two eventually against cops. I don't even know where to suggest putting the story, I mean really where do you put a story involving a shrink with a new patient who talks to him for a while then goes home and has sex, I haven't decided what kind yet, I'm thinking with a husband.

 

[sunandshadow]

I like Joker and Harley (mainly the versions from the animated Batman TV series). I agree that they're nuts. But they're definitely super villains. Super villains are often nutty and comical, and do not need to have innate powers, they can substitute with technology, absurd amounts of luck, sex appeal, magic, psychological manipulation, etc. The main requirements for being a super villain are the name, the costume, and the recurrent Nefarious Plot.

Joker has had some great plots - laughing gas has made repeated appearances, as have attempts to stamp other people (or in one case fish) with his trademark face. He and Harley have made repeated use of trick guns (the kind where a flag comes out which says bang), they have jumped out of cakes, sprayed people with colorful goop, used hypnotism to make people do crazy things, and swiped the cool toys other super villains or heroes have invented. The Joker belongs to the mythological family of trickster figures, and has the same types of goals and motivations as other tricksters: he likes obtaining money and unique/rare/valuable objects (mainly because other people obsess over them), he likes being in the spot light, he likes making fools out of people who are too serious or boring, he wants to show off how clever and cool he is, and when he's bored he wants to liven things up.

Try playing with the Hero Machine webtoy to make yourself some characters similar to Joker and Harley yet original:
http://www.ugo.com/channels/comics/heromachine2/heroMachine2.asp


Erm, unless I missed the point, and you prefer to not have supers in your world at all, just a crazy couple wandering around in the real world?

 

[emap]

The last one actually, I have a clear look of each in mind but I'm staying away from superheroes and villains, just a couple nutty kids trying to make their way in the world, so to speak. Actually what I am thinking they end up doing is alot of heists and stuff.

Course they get caught on occassion, I'm thinking something along the lines of puddin this heist is making me horny, do me on the stolen gems and the cops show up type.

 

[Nymphomaniacal]

Lillith's not REALLY in the Bible, not the traditionally accepted Bible at any rate. But I concur. That does bring in a whole new avenue of names though. We could bring in female demon names over the years.

If you're set on Jokesta (Personally it has to many sylables and has a "hard" for lack of better term sound. I think girls should have soft names with lots of vowels.)

I kinda like the way Jokesta Ra sounds. I'm not sure it matters if the phrase translates to Death Clown or Clown of Death is important. I mean most things don't translate cleanly from one language to another and thus nobody could REALLY argue with you over it. That's my take.

Ah technically Lilith is MENTIONED but not by name and has a very very small apperance in the bible. However because of who she is and what she did, most people dont like when you mention her

As for names. I love love love Harley, she is my favorite DC character. You could do the name switch with spelling like Harleigh or Harlee. I like Harlequin as well.

If you really want suggestions try 20000-names.com. They have names listed by character traits even, so if you want something unique I suggest going there.

 

[sunandshadow]

The last one actually, I have a clear look of each in mind but I'm staying away from superheroes and villains, just a couple nutty kids trying to make their way in the world, so to speak. Actually what I am thinking they end up doing is a lot of heists and stuff.

Course they get caught on occassion, I'm thinking something along the lines of puddin this heist is making me horny, do me on the stolen gems and the cops show up type.

Ah, I see. Have you watched Benny and Joon? They don't do heists but its a cute example of a romance between two crazies, and yum Johnny Depp. There's probably also several good movies about comic heists, and some of them must involve eccentric characters.

 

[emap]

I love Benny and Joon, expecially the part where he's chasing his hat and the dancing taters. Johnny Depp should so do another movie like that where he can show off his comedic talents because the man is second only to Charlie Chaplin. Much cuter though.

Hmmm, I shall have to look for this 20000 names place, that may work for the last name I need. Though to be honest I don't think I'm going to need help with the comedic heist, I like action movies and well heck Jackie Chan gives you a great view on comedic action. Plus comedies, comedic heists I'm pretty well versed in I just needed names.

 

[emap]

Hmmmm, I don't know what do you guys think of Constance Jocasta for her?

Apparently constance means loyal, reliable, and so on.

Not the only one, I kinda like Adal Jocasta, Adal is noble, don't ask me how.

Alicia Jocasta, I like this one.

Severina Jocasta, apparently Severina means stern, who knew I just like how it sounds.

Last but not least I like Jocasta Raylene.

So which one do you guys like? Maybe I should add a poll, well hmm can I add a poll still?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Which one is her "primary" name? I kinda like Jokasta Raylene. All the others sound too long to me. Or bet yet what is it going to be shortened to? There seems to be a generally accepted rule that names get two syllables or else they get short handed to something people are willing to say.

 

[emap]

It's first and last names you goofball.

She is a phsychiatrist to start and they seem to really like being pretentious and using their whole name so I figured why not.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If you are going for a real first and last name then I think Jocasta is WAY WAY WAY over the top and I apologize for the names I"ve given thus far I misunderstood.

How does Joesephine Stamos strike you or Joe (ca) Sta for short.

I think at this point we need to follow the same meme as Harleen Quinzel=Harlyquin and figure out what combination of names can equal Jocasta instead of trying to justify some parents naming their poor daughter Jocasta and trying to attach a last name.

I think we are looking for a Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Justin Credible.

Perhaps Hillary Rus? or Russel sounds slightly more realistic while still being easy to pun from.

 

[emap]

Well heck if you want to use Jocasta as her villain name I can just use Josephine Castrol.

See the problem is you are not creative.

Well I may just use Jocasta as her villain name anyway but heck I like it to much to not use as part of her name. Besides only one of the examples above uses Jocasta as a first name and it can get switched to Raylene Jocasta anyway.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't like Castrol. I think Joesephine Caster is an excellent name however. You could also use Josephine Sterling if you were going with a Jester(ish) name.

 

[Black_Dahlia]

What about Joe King?

"Hii. You must be Joe King?"

Been done?

 

[emap]

The guys name is covered, he won't have a real name just the one he decided to be known as.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Ok, this isn't really a story idea so much as I could use a teensy help.

Ok so for those of you not knowing Harley Quinn was a phsychiatrist for a supervillain, he seduces her and turns her into a supervillain, well more like a sidekick to a supervillain in Batman's world.

Ok so now my idea is based on that but not about her and him. It is heavily based on the story of her going from a shrink to a villain, with a decidedly literotica turn. Right now I don't need help with the story, i do however need help with the names, cause right now what I have is he is called Jokester and I don't know what her name is.

So now, come on give me a little help, toss out good names that aren't already taken by recent comics or movies.

I haven't thought about Harley Quinn (Arleen Sorkin from "Days Of Our Lives") in a while.
She was a receptionist who acted as a personal psyciatrist and mistress to Jack Napier AKA Joker (voiced by Mark Hamill).
She was never paid for her mock psychiatry.

The cartoon Poison Ivy was sexier though.
Whenever they teamed up, I always thought Selina Kyle (AKA Cat Woman) should join them.

 

[Fantasies_only]

Ah technically Lilith is MENTIONED but not by name and has a very very small apperance in the bible. However because of who she is and what she did, most people dont like when you mention her

As for names. I love love love Harley, she is my favorite DC character. You could do the name switch with spelling like Harleigh or Harlee. I like Harlequin as well.

If you really want suggestions try 20000-names.com. They have names listed by character traits even, so if you want something unique I suggest going there.

Lilith is the first wife of Adam who was created at the same time, so she's sister and wife.
Lilith is depicted as a monster when she is named, however before that, she is much like the jealous X-wife.

She is called a fallen angel or demon who is often mistaken for a succubus.
Lilith (a Pegan creation) was cursed with a motherly desire, but can't have children of her own (unless spawn of the devil).
She steals babies and holds them for ransom, and would abuse the sick ones taking good care of the others.
She would kill all the babies if she wasn't compansated with material objects.

To orthodox Jews (Hebrew scriptures) Adam was made of Earth, and lilith was the filfth beneath him.
Other beliefs say she is a Siamese twin connected back to back with Adam.

Lilith has a Major part in The Book of Genesis.

 

[neighborboy]

Lilith has a Major part in The Book of Genesis.

Lilith does not appear in Genesis. Got any more fast ones to pull on us?

 

[Fantasies_only]

Lilith does not appear in Genesis. Got any more fast ones to pull on us?

I suggest you look up the first wife of Adam (Hebrew, Arabic, and Yiddish (Russian/Checkoslovakian/Jewish hybrid language).
The story says Adam was made from Earth and Lilith was created at the same time as the filth beneath him (a rather sexist story).

After separating from Adam against God's wishes, she turned evil as she was shunning God.
Pretending to be nice and kind, she seduced Adam (who is essentially her twin brother) who married her.
Eve sprang from Adam's rib later in the story.
Lilith was named as a vengeful angel.
Her name was given to her by Pagans who think of her as a fertility goddess.
The name Lilith does not appear in the old testament, but it does in (another version).

 

[Sean Renaud]

So in otherwords check the Not Bible. There are tons upon tons of stories but if it wasn't Cannonized by the Church it's not in the Bible. Lillith's involvement in the Bible is limited to a single possible typo where God creates man and woman both and then in the next verse he creates woman a second time.

I didn't bother responding earlier because we were getting dangerously off topic and anything that Fantasies Only says is automatically a lie or misinformation and doesn't need to be corrected because everybody is well aware that he's idiot pond scum.

See below for an excellent example.

 

[Fantasies_only]

So in otherwords check the Not Bible. There are tons upon tons of stories but if it wasn't Cannonized by the Church it's not in the Bible. Lillith's involvement in the Bible is limited to a single possible typo where God creates man and woman both and then in the next verse he creates woman a second time.

I didn't bother responding earlier because we were getting dangerously off topic and anything that Fantasies Only says is automatically a lie or misinformation and doesn't need to be corrected because everybody is well aware that he's idiot pond scum.

Ok, what happened is that people started coming out with their own version of the Bible and calling it gospel, but what is THE BIBLE anyway?
It's just a bunch of stories told by an entire community instead of one person, but other versions are still stories.
I could say the flying spaghetti monster is in the Bible too.
Lilith, Adam's mythological first wife
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster