Hammered – an Ode to Mickey Spillane” - the 2022 Story Event Official Support Thread

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Well guys 'n dames, last years "Hammered - an Ode to Mickey Spillane" was pretty popular with readers as well as writers, so Laurel's asked me if I'd like to organize another one for 2022. Well, of course I am, especially because I didn't manage to get my own story done for last year's event! So here we go - I’m posting this thread to officially kick off the 2022 “Hammered – an Ode to Mickey Spillane” Story Event. Laurel will be creating the Event Page shortly, but the “go live” date is 18 July 2022, so you got a whole 4 months to think, contemplate, plan and write for this one.

What’s the theme, you ask? Well, it’s an Ode to Mickey Spillane, so think gritty, dark, and overflowing with violence and sex in the best traditions of Spillane’s Mike Hammer. Spillane knew he was writing pulp, and his guiding principle serves as the theme for this event “violence will outsell sex every time,” but, “combined, they will outsell everything.” Spillane’s books were a huge commercial success, but their plain style and often violent content didn’t tend to sit well with critics. His works were variously referred to as “atrocious” and “nauseating,” while his most famous creation was called a “homicidal paranoiac” by Malcolm Cowley, who called Spillane himself "a dangerous paranoid, sadist, and masochist."

So there you go, and if you’re still not sure, go read a couple of Spillane’s Mike Hammer novels and go for it. Vivid descriptions. Short words. Fast transitions. Violence. Sex. Stereotyping and caricatures. Minimalism. The suggestion that allows your imagination to fill in the blanks. Like Spillane’s writing. Set the scene. Switch to dialogue.

Anyhow, the intent of this event is, well, to write something that reflects Spillane’s stylistic approach to writing as much as anything. Call it noir. Call it hard-boiled. Call it whatever the hell you like, guys 'n dames. I’d say, as much as anything, go for the style, the violence and the sex, but really, interpret it any way you like, and…

Have fun!

This thread is to SUPPORT and ENCOURAGE authors to enter their stories in this 2022 Story Event. If you have any questions, post them here, and someone will answer. It might be me, it might be someone else, but don’t be shy. Ask. There’s no such thing as a dumb question. And if you’re still shy, PM me. I’ll answer.

If you’re a first time writer, or this is the first time you’re thinking about doing a story for an “Event” or a Competition on Literotica, hey, don’t be stressed about it. We’ve all been there, and a “story event” like this is a great way to test the waters without getting into the competitiveness of a writing competition. This ain’t a competition, it’s open to everyone, from the complete novice to the writers that have been here since Literotica started.

Also, there no scores, no placing, and no prizes. This is just writing for fun with a bunch of other people doing the same thing. If you’re not sure about what to do, how to submit your story, or anything at all, just ask here. We’ve all been there, and we’re a bunch of very helpful people, and we like to pass it on.

So without further ado, are you interested in writing for the 2022 “Hammered – an Ode to Mickey Spillane” Story Event? If you are, get started! You've got 4 entire months to get something done! First time writers and veteran Literoticans alike are invited and encouraged to participate. You’ll be in good company

The rules are really simple
1. Stay more or less with the theme.
2. You can write in any category and any length, as long as you keep in mind Rule #1
.3. Please include “Hammered Story Event 2022” in the notes field. Please use this exact wording so Laurel can identify the entries.
4. Please use “Hammered an Ode to Mickey Spillane” as a story tag
5. You can submit anytime from 1 July 2022 on, but all entries need to be submitted by 11:59pm, Sunday 17 July, 2022.
6. All stories will Go Live on Literotica on Monday 18 July 2022.

So what are you waiting for? Next year? Get started now.


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Well, well, well, look who the cat dragged in. :cool:

I may have lucked out. I have a murder story just about finished but I hadn't thought of dropping it in your lap.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
Whooooo, the first one! Great! And I have my Roanapur / Trexy Lee story from last year that I didn't get finished, but for sure it's making it for this one, so we have two already.
 
Well, good. I had a good idea for a story a year ago, featuring my hard-boiled Mike Hammer-spoof detective Sonny Biggs, from my story BTB, Incorporated, but I didn't get around to getting the story done. Given the totally unpredictable pace of my writing, I don't know if I'll get this one done on time, but I'm going to work on it and hope that I do. I make no predictions.
 
"The dame's set you a challenge there, Dan," Ruby drawled, cigarette smoke drifting upwards from her scarlet lips like a veil. "You reckon you can get that writer of yours off his ass to write us a sequel? I got a sister moving to LA. Would that do it, you reckon?"

"Might do, Ma'am. I'll drop by his place with a Remington and five reams."

Ruby dialed the black telephone. "Operator, get me Dallas 9101."
 
I am glad there is another one of these. Thank you ChloeTzang for hosting these awesome events.

I have close to 7,000 words last year, I was not even close to finishing it. It is more angst than noir. I tried to write something that reflected Spillane’s stylistic approach to writing. I outright failed, I had the sex and the sexism and racism. I am sure I can improve upon it with four months time.
 
If I do get around to it, it will be a BDSM story, just my second. Lots of rope play.
 
Simmon, be careful with that rope or you can end up in a few tight spots. :D
 
I'm thinking about this. The piece would be a combination of scenes from an unpublished work mixed with a couple chapters of something I already put out(but not here) and blend them into a story
Issue is category, the sex is a mix, lesbian and a threesome, but category would be tough. I can work in a supernatural element for EH, but the horror aspect is towards the end. I hate to do novels novellas because it doesn't get much attention, and I'd be interested in what people think of it.

One thing I know is if I can get this thing figured out and enter it then our illustrious contest leader is going to have a run for her money when it comes to violence, because the gloves are off in this thing.
 
You know me too well, and it is extremely annoying.
Hey, I (sorta) let you off on that daft New Years Resolution thing (even you must have known you'd gone a step too far with that one), and I guess 750 Words is a good a place to start as any, to up the productivity.

You know it's coz I've got your back. I have faith in you, Master Doom, so should you ;).
 
I have been thinking of taking one of my characters from a previous story and completely changing genres with a followup into a nourish story.
 
I just watched Double Indemnity for the first time. 1944, with Fred McMurray and Barbara Stanwyck, directed by Billy Wilder. Great movie, and an almost perfect example of noir style -- the setting (LA, of course), the clothing, the sharp dialogue, the suspense and betrayal. Definitely one of the best movies of its type, and I recommend it, especially if you are looking for examples of this style.
 
I just watched Double Indemnity for the first time. 1944, with Fred McMurray and Barbara Stanwyck, directed by Billy Wilder. Great movie, and an almost perfect example of noir style -- the setting (LA, of course), the clothing, the sharp dialogue, the suspense and betrayal. Definitely one of the best movies of its type, and I recommend it, especially if you are looking for examples of this style.
I recently watched Chinatown and The Two Jakes. I'd suggest those as well.
 
I have written quite a few noir detective stories in the style of Spillane, that proved quite popular on other sites, so this is interesting to me. However, I have a few questions:
1. Would stories that have been published elsewhere be allowed?
2. You are asking for violence. Spillane certainly did not shy away from fairly extreme violence. But this site has a rule regarding "excessive" violence and the term is not really defined. So will there be some slack allowed for the purposes of this event? After all, Spillane and the other noir authors have dead bodies all over the place and none expired from natural causes.
3. Mine are novella length and I've always posted them in chapters. Would one have to post them as one long story for this event?
 
I have written quite a few noir detective stories in the style of Spillane, that proved quite popular on other sites, so this is interesting to me. However, I have a few questions:
1. Would stories that have been published elsewhere be allowed?
2. You are asking for violence. Spillane certainly did not shy away from fairly extreme violence. But this site has a rule regarding "excessive" violence and the term is not really defined. So will there be some slack allowed for the purposes of this event? After all, Spillane and the other noir authors have dead bodies all over the place and none expired from natural causes.
3. Mine are novella length and I've always posted them in chapters. Would one have to post them as one long story for this event?

As far as I know, this Site has no rule against violence. I'm not sure what you are referring to.

This Site has a rule against torture and snuff porn. Meaning, you can't publish stories that focus on death and torture as subjects intended to create an erotic effect. But that's not the same thing as a story that includes both death and erotic incidents.
 
As far as I know, this Site has no rule against violence. I'm not sure what you are referring to.

This Site has a rule against torture and snuff porn. Meaning, you can't publish stories that focus on death and torture as subjects intended to create an erotic effect. But that's not the same thing as a story that includes both death and erotic incidents.
The site does have a stated rule against excessive violence and abuse. I think the rule will kick in if the violence is described in much detail and/or turned into an erotic focus.
 
The site does have a stated rule against excessive violence and abuse. I think the rule will kick in if the violence is described in much detail and/or turned into an erotic focus.
Where is the rule stated?
 
Where is the rule stated?
It's in some post on the Editor's Forum from sometime back in the Stone Age...

I don't want to get into an argument and frankly, could we wait and see if the OP has an answer as to how she sees asking for violence, and where the line of excessive not "excessive" lies?

As for "intended to create an erotic effect", how does one determine intent? My intent is always to tell a good story. Any eroticism is in the mind of the reader, because we all have different tastes...
 
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Where is the rule stated?
This is from the KillerMuffin thread post that Laurel cites for understanding story rejections.

Was there excessive violence, snuff, or abuse of characters in your story?
Your story was too extreme for our guidelines. These judgments are subjective, and thus we can't give an exact definition of what exactly is "too much". Certain "violence" in a BDSM situation between consenting adults may be allowed, while the same "violence" between strangers in a non-consentual situation will not. Tone and respect for characters, as well as the "violent" scene within the context of the story, are what we make our judgments upon. If your story is rejected for this, feel free to send the story back with a polite request for an explanation and we will tell you why it was rejected. If you disagree with our assessment, you are more than welcome to publish your story elsewhere rather than alter it to our guidelines. We respect your rights as authors to write on whatever you like, however you like.
 
This is from the KillerMuffin thread post that Laurel cites for understanding story rejections.

Got it.

It's extremely unclear what this rule means.

As far as I know, this Site does not, as a practical matter, stop you from publishing stories about a) war combat deaths, b) murder, c) zombies, d) events in which many people die.

As is so often the frustrating case at this Site, it refuses to clarify what it means. But my take is that what they mean is you can't publish torture porn and snuff. They don't want to host stories about violence as an erotic subject. But you are free to write, for instance, an erotic detective story where a lot of people in the story die, and where the death is described. That's my sense. I don't get the feeling that this Site would have any problem with an erotic-tinged Mickey Spillane style story where people get shot and murdered and where there are erotic scenes. I could be wrong, but I don't see any reason to worry about that, based on what I've read and based on what Laurel has written.
 
Got it.

It's extremely unclear what this rule means.

As far as I know, this Site does not, as a practical matter, stop you from publishing stories about a) war combat deaths, b) murder, c) zombies, d) events in which many people die.

As is so often the frustrating case at this Site, it refuses to clarify what it means. But my take is that what they mean is you can't publish torture porn and snuff. They don't want to host stories about violence as an erotic subject. But you are free to write, for instance, an erotic detective story where a lot of people in the story die, and where the death is described. That's my sense. I don't get the feeling that this Site would have any problem with an erotic-tinged Mickey Spillane style story where people get shot and murdered and where there are erotic scenes. I could be wrong, but I don't see any reason to worry about that, based on what I've read and based on what Laurel has written.
All of those terms are subjective, really. How does one tell "violence as an erotic subject" from plain old ordinary violence? Name literally anything and there is someone out there who will find it erotic...

As for snuff, the term refers to films in which the actress was actually killed, so I don't know that it applies to a written text, since no person is actually killed by a story (though I've read a few stories that made me wish for death):D
 
All of those terms are subjective, really. How does one tell "violence as an erotic subject" from plain old ordinary violence? Name literally anything and there is someone out there who will find it erotic...

As for snuff, the term refers to films in which the actress was actually killed, so I don't know that it applies to a written text, since no person is actually killed by a story (though I've read a few stories that made me wish for death):D
From the sounds of this thread it seems like the standard has been invoked recently. You'd have to read PervertOne's story on the other site to see what was rejected.
 
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