Half Of Ptsd Are Alcoholics

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://www.dualdiagnosis.org/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-and-addiction/

I knew that. The question is: Were they drunks before and during active duty?

I contend the drunk comes first. That is the drunk joins the service and cant cope. But I cant find any studies of premorbidity alcoholism.

 

[chillywilly2]

Good of you to focus on they...that way you can deny and help till further studies.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2014/09/80000-vets-with-ptsd-could-gain-discharge-upgrades/

Military uses PTSD to upgrade Bad Conduct Discharges.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

The ability to deal with reality varies from one individual to the next. Alcohol is used to escape from reality. It would only make sense that a person that has difficulty dealing with reality would use alcohol before, during and after a traumatic event.

 

[chillywilly2]

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2014/09/80000-vets-with-ptsd-could-gain-discharge-upgrades/

Military uses PTSD to upgrade Bad Conduct Discharges.

The military also encourages heavy alcohol comsumption

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The military also encourages heavy alcohol comsumption

Sure they do, I was in the military. But drunk exists before misconduct, drunks aren't victims.

 

[chillywilly2]

Sure they do, I was in the military. But drunk exists before misconduct, drunks aren't victims.

OK, I get it....whats next on your bitch list

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The ability to deal with reality varies from one individual to the next. Alcohol is used to escape from reality. It would only make sense that a person that has difficulty dealing with reality would use alcohol before, during and after a traumatic event.

Our detox unit was never empty, I know what folks do, but alcoholism isn't PTSD. PTSD is a scam to conceal misconduct.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

OK, I get it....whats next on your bitch list

Its my crusade to discredit drunks and malingerers.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Our detox unit was never empty, I know what folks do, but alcoholism isn't PTSD. PTSD is a scam to conceal misconduct.

My neighbor growing up was in a Japanese POW camp in II. I'm pretty sure that was PTSD. They had to keep calling my dad over to restrain him and keep him from killing the "Gooks" in his living room. But he was Native American and couldn't hold his "firewater" before or after.

 

[smoothg103rd]

They just are weak.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

My neighbor growing up was in a Japanese POW camp in II. I'm pretty sure that was PTSD. They had to keep calling my dad over to restrain him and keep him from killing the "Gooks" in his living room. But he was Native American and couldn't hold his "firewater" before or after.

Yes, but we aren't speaking of legitimate war trauma or Titanic sinkings or Holocaust horrors, or sex abuse we're speaking of alcoholics who fucked up in the army and fucked up outta the army.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

That guy was one on the toughtest/meanest SOBs I've ever seen.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

They just are weak.

Theyre fucking drunks.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Theyre fucking drunks.

Weak fucking drunks

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

That guy was one on the toughtest/meanest SOBs I've ever seen.

Me too, I have an iron heart. But I don't drink and I stay outta trouble that matters.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Anytime you need something to help you cope you are weak in my eyes.

 

[chillywilly2]

Theyre fucking drunks.

Who are you talking about?

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Yes, but we aren't speaking of legitimate war trauma or Titanic sinkings or Holocaust horrors, or sex abuse we're speaking of alcoholics who fucked up in the army and fucked up outta the army.

The Army isn't exactly stocked from the crem da la crem of society to begin with.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

Anytime you need something to help you cope you are weak in my eyes.

Don't you take drugs?

 

[Balladeer08]

Its my crusade to discredit drunks and malingerers.

All the military social events are centered around the consumption of alcohol.

 

[Balladeer08]

The Army isn't exactly stocked from the crem da la crem of society to begin with.

Wow.

"Equality" just took it in the ass.

 

[smoothg103rd]

Don't you take drugs?

Not to be able to cope. I take them cause I want to get high. That's it that's all.

 

[Noor]

http://www.dualdiagnosis.org/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-and-addiction/

I knew that. The question is: Were they drunks before and during active duty?

I contend the drunk comes first. That is the drunk joins the service and cant cope. But I cant find any studies of premorbidity alcoholism.

Brain injury makes alcoholism more likely.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The Army isn't exactly stocked from the crem da la crem of society to begin with.

I think they are. I've known 2 groups of people I'm proud to have associated with: military and construction workers. They are the best of America. Perfessers, no.