Hair.....

[Penalt]

Okay, I am posting this here because I honestly am not sure where to put it and I regard this area as my 'home' on Lit.

Me and Mamid have found ourselves in a bit of a financial pickle. Long story on how we got there but Mamid has come up with a bit of an idea on this. As you may have noticed from her Av she has a lovely length of hair. 35 inches from peak to cheek. Her idea:

Sell the hair to a fellow fetishist who needs/wants a length of actual hair for something. There would be about 2 feet of usable length for....pretty much anything. As long as the price was right that is. It took her the better part of 5 years to grow it this long so it would not come cheap.

My questions:

Has anyone done this or know someone who has done it, and how did it work out?
Where would such an ad be placed? Here or on Lit or elsewhere.
Does this sound like total insanity or just partially?

Suggestions, comments....offers, appreciated on this.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

I am sorry to say Penalt I don't like your chances with this. Selling hair for profit in most western countries to the best of my immediate knowledge is an urban legend of sorts. I did a quick look into it and came up with this link that unfortunately supports my initial theory. Perhaps on further investigation you will find something more promising. I wish you both luck

Actually it's a pretty sweet thing for a woman to consider, reminds of an old black & white movie I saw many years ago. A husband and wife were struggling to make ends meet . It's Christmas time and she wants to buy him something very special so she sells her beautiful hair to wig maker and uses the money to buy her husband a watch chain for his heirloom and much prized pocket watch. He returns home and is shocked to find she has cut her hair , she presents him tearfully with the gift. Only to find out he had sold the watch earlier the same day to buy her ornate combs for her hair. A romantic tale involving sacrifice.

Bless Youtube I found the clip at the wigmakers . Link .

Apologies for the diversion there , felt the need to share it for some reason.

As a side note if you decide to go ahead without the potential to sale Locks of Love is an wonderful organisation.

Locks of Love is a public non-profit organization that provides hairpieces to financially disadvantaged children under age 18 suffering from long-term medical hair loss from any diagnosis. We meet a unique need for children by using donated hair to create the highest quality hair prosthetics. Most of the children helped by Locks of Love have lost their hair due to a medical condition called alopecia areata, which has no known cause or cure. The prostheses we provide help to restore their self-esteem and their confidence, enabling them to face the world and their peers.

 

[myinnerslut]

i cant help with thte idea of selling it, but i have done locks off love three times... a total of 36 inches (my hair is now down to mid back again) so if you decide to go that route and have any questions feel free to ask. i hope you manage to come up with the money you need. try a wig making company mabye? a high end one that uses human hair and sells to rich ladies.

 

[coyotesmile]

Yes, it reminds me of that story too, rebecca

Anyway, I'm sorry to hear about your situation! But never fear, I have plenty of good ideas for you since I am, in fact, a poor college student and very good at squeezing money out of things.

I've done medical studies, delivered phone books, sold old things on ebay, and selling any old video games you might have to a game trader is always a good way to get some cash. Ebay and medical studies are your best bet, though

I wish you luck!

 

[Mamid]

Locks of Love is a scam. I would sooner burn my hair than donate it to to Locks of Love or Wigs for Kids or any of the other "we make wigs for those poor sicks/cancer kids." go to the Long Hair Community for more information about it.

Essentially, Locks of Love charges the kids for the wigs that they make and they sell the hair they can't use.

Penalt's own sister who has alopecia refused my donation. She and tons of others have said they would prefer hair that is easy to care for (read: artificial) because human hair is "hot" and hard to care for and very tempermental.

We were hoping that there was a hair fetishist that would enjoy a nice silken lock to play with.

 

[brioche]

Locks of Love is a scam. I would sooner burn my hair than donate it to to Locks of Love or Wigs for Kids or any of the other "we make wigs for those poor sicks/cancer kids." go to the Long Hair Community for more information about it.

Essentially, Locks of Love charges the kids for the wigs that they make and they sell the hair they can't use.

Penalt's own sister who has alopecia refused my donation. She and tons of others have said they would prefer hair that is easy to care for (read: artificial) because human hair is "hot" and hard to care for and very tempermental.

We were hoping that there was a hair fetishist that would enjoy a nice silken lock to play with.

As far as hair sales, they sell adult hair because it is different from child's hair. They only use child's hair to create the wigs. I think the issue was that there was originally no one making child's wigs from children's hair. I don't know about charging. I watched a documentary about it. That's the only part I remember, though, I'm not an expert or anything.

 

[h_i_s]

Locks of Love is a scam. I would sooner burn my hair than donate it to to Locks of Love or Wigs for Kids or any of the other "we make wigs for those poor sicks/cancer kids." ........................................

Your hair is pretty Mamid. You won't get compensation enough to make it worth sacrificing. ... not even from a good wig manufacturer [they have their own sources and they get the hair for CHEAPER than what i imagine you'd want to cut off all your's for, and finding some rich lady who wants a custom long haired wig seems far fetched.

I hope the situation with finances improves for you and Penalt asap, Mamid. The advice of using Ebay is good. My Master and i do a great deal of yardsales and get stuff for next to no $$... and sell it on Ebay for double [or more] .... especially childrens' clothing.

Some will even buy 'worn ladies panties' ... especially if they see an image of the lady in the Ebay ad.... wearing those worn panties [not DIRTY panties...... you gotta word this carefully as Ebay won't allow selling 'soiled' undergarments ......... please NOBODY ask how I know this .. and NO i don't sell my panties and my PMs are NOW turned OFF ]. Regardless, I know how stressing $$ matters can be.... I hope your load lightens asap.

It's terrible that you've arrived at such an inaccurate and misinformed opinion, Mamid. It's even more terrible that you'd rather burn your hair ...
One thing I learned as a newbie to the internet years ago...... "Do the homework & CHECK the source of information..... "[aka "Don't believe everything you read or are told... confirm it for yourself.".

It would be terrible [even more so, perhaps] if others continue to be misinformed and then go on to 'spread' the myths, urban legends, and 'half truths' even further than they have in past years, regarding LoL.

I'm a licensed and board certified cosmetologist of 15+ years. I've been involved in facilitating donations, as well as having had a few recipients [of Locks of Love Wigs] as my hair clients over those years. I did my homework prior to first recommending Locks of Love to clients. I've been lucky to witness the results from both angles. Ever had the experience of trimming the wig of a little girl with alopecia? I have. The experience was very rewarding. I only wished my scissors were magical, perhsaps like something out of 'Edward Scissorhands'..... so I could have magically cut her illness/baldness away [swaying slightly off topic.. but worth noting].

POINTS to Ponder:
The Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving campaign found that Locks of Love DID meet its 20 standards for charity accountability. For detailed explaination please visit their link and read... http://charityreports.give.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=1839

A child can receive hair prostheses free of charge or on a sliding scale, based entirely upon financial need.
Locks of Love does not give out every wig for free, they charge according to a parent's income level. They state this clearly and plainly worded on the home page of the web site. Nothing wrong with that. Wigs made of REAL [vs synthetic] hair are not inexpensive, to say the least.

Even if not all of the hair is used by Locks of Love, and they sell some of the excess and/or portions of lesser [or otherwise unusable] quality to commercial wigmakers, those portions of the hair donations still help kids who are in 'NEED'. The profit from the sales of excess hair help out by offsetting costs of operating the organization. While it would be misleading for Locks of Love to guarantee that every chopped-off ponytail is used on a wig for a sick bald kid, I've yet to see in my 15+ years as a licensed and board certified cosmetologist any claim by Locks of Love that they DO.....

It is not a scam for them to sell what they cannot use in order to cover their overhead (wig manufacturing, the costs of running an office, fundraising, website costs, etc). Many charitable organizations have a 'business' aka 'profit portion' of their operation that covers the related costs involved in running things.



It's a GREAT charitable service.

 

[h_i_s]

Penalt's own sister who has alopecia refused my donation. She and tons of others have said they would prefer hair that is easy to care for (read: artificial) because human hair is "hot" and hard to care for and very tempermental.

That information is incorrect. It's actually just the opposite.

If you want a wig that is easiest to care for, it will always be REAL hair..... hands down.

Shampooing real hair is easier...... styling it is easier.... cutting it is easier...

Real hair IS able to be colored, and permed and chemically straightened or thermally straightened and blow dried [vs synthetic which should be set and allowed to air dry under a hooded type dryer but ONLY with low heat.... and takes quite a long while] and bleached and curled with hot irons/curling irons. --CAN'T do any of that with synthetic hair. Only the manufacturer can do those things to synthetic hair and achieve good/quality results.

vs. Synthetic hair which needs special cleansers [think like woolite... ]. It is VERY delicate. It requires extra special and gentle care.
Synthetic hair is not easier to care for. ..... not even for those experienced and trained to care for synthetic wigs. It's MORE DIFFICULT. And if it becomes damaged it can't be fixed/reversed............ unlike natural hair.

 

[brioche]

It would be terrible [even more so, perhaps] if others continue to be misinformed and then go on to 'spread' the myths, urban legends, and 'half truths' even further than they have in past years, regarding LoL.


Even if not all of the hair is used by Locks of Love, and they sell some of the excess and/or portions of lesser [or otherwise unusable] quality to commercial wigmakers, those portions of the hair donations still help kids who are in 'NEED'. The profit from the sales of excess hair help out by offsetting costs of operating the organization. While it would be misleading for Locks of Love to guarantee that every chopped-off ponytail is used on a wig for a sick bald kid, I've yet to see in my 15+ years as a licensed and board certified cosmetologist any claim by Locks of Love that they DO.....

It is not a scam for them to sell what they cannot use in order to cover their overhead (wig manufacturing, the costs of running an office, fundraising, website costs, etc). Many charitable organizations have a 'business' aka 'profit portion' of their operation that covers the related costs involved in running things.



It's a GREAT charitable service.

I agree it's great, and the doc I saw was years ago...I was pretty sure that it said they didn't use adult hair, but maybe it was that a lot of adult hair was damaged and so they sold it? At any rate I didn't have a problem with that. Nor did my sister, who sent her hair to LoL. Thanks for giving us the real goods, sinn0cent.

 

[h_i_s]

I agree it's great, and the doc I saw was years ago...I was pretty sure that it said they didn't use adult hair, but maybe it was that a lot of adult hair was damaged and so they sold it? At any rate I didn't have a problem with that. Nor did my sister, who sent her hair to LoL. Thanks for giving us the real goods, sinn0cent.

Donation Guidelines for Locks of Love are found on this page of the site: http://www.locksoflove.org/donate.html

9 times out of 10 the hair that isn't used ...... isn't long enough, or otherwise is deemed 'unusable' for a child's wig. So many send in hair that is too short (less than 10")...... or bleached [or otherwise far too damaged]. And it must be in the form of a pony [secured at the base vs. loose hair].

Donated hair must not be from the floor... and MUST be clean: Off topic: Odd bit of info worth sharing... and kind of funny/humorous.......In cosmetology schools many of the mannequin heads' hair provided to students has dead head lice attached. I'll never forget the two girls who got up and took their refunds, and left , never to return to class again........ after being told by the instructor that the first lesson was 'How to identify and manually remove nits from your mannequin.". Yep.... those mannequin wigs quite commonly come with thier own supply of [dead]nits.

 

[Mamid]

It's terrible that you've arrived at such an inaccurate and misinformed opinion, Mamid. It's even more terrible that you'd rather burn your hair ...
One thing I learned as a newbie to the internet years ago...... "Do the homework & CHECK the source of information..... "[aka "Don't believe everything you read or are told... confirm it for yourself.".

I sent a letter to Locks of Love years ago asking about their Better Business Bureau report and the inconsistencies it had.

They never replied.

Let me repeat that in plain english...

They Never Replied.

Donating Hair For Wigs Charities

First off, if I had wanted to donate my hair, it would have been cut already. I hate being pressured to cut it for some "cancer kids" when there is no guarantee my hair won't be just sold anyway.

So why not just sell it? There is bound to be someone who would love to have a nice pony tail of hair to caress...

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Well I suppose you could try listing it on Fetish Auctioneer and see if you got any buyers.

 

[h_i_s]

I sent a letter to Locks of Love years ago asking about their Better Business Bureau report and the inconsistencies it had.

They never replied.

Let me repeat that in plain english...

They Never Replied.

Donating Hair For Wigs Charities

First off, if I had wanted to donate my hair, it would have been cut already. I hate being pressured to cut it for some "cancer kids" when there is no guarantee my hair won't be just sold anyway.

So why not just sell it? There is bound to be someone who would love to have a nice pony tail of hair to caress...

I read the link you supplied. A good deal of the information provided by the page you offer [putting the Locks of Love debate aside] is inaccurate and some of it is false.

Just because someone took the time to type up a page and posted it on the internet doesn't render it as absolute fact, or prove them to be an expert on the subject, or even slightly knowledgeable, Mamid.

Nor does one unanswered letter years ago serve as proof of a well known, charitable organization [which is in good standing with the BBB], having inconsistencies in that report. Which are you speaking of that are current, please? As I am a cosmetologist, and have many who ask me for the info, I like to stay current and accurant on any info regarding LoL.

I don't see anyone pressuring anyone else here. Just offering you some accurate information and the proofs to back that info. If you're not open to it... far be it from me to push. That's the best thing about well intended advice....... you can take it or leave it.

Best of luck to you and your's.

 

[h_i_s]

Well I suppose you could try listing it on Fetish Auctioneer and see if you got any buyers.

Great idea there... dixicritter.

and, I never heard of that site... thanks for the link.

 

[Daddyslilpet]

I've been surfing that auction site for years now. It's pretty good.

 

[h_i_s]

I've been surfing that auction site for years now. It's pretty good.

Yay! I'm checking it out soon as I have more online time again......... i'm burning good chicken at the moment.... and gotta get back to cooking dinner. Thanks again !!!!!

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Yay! I'm checking it out soon as I have more online time again......... i'm burning good chicken at the moment.... and gotta get back to cooking dinner. Thanks again !!!!!

LOL... don't be burning good chicken. Most welcome!

 

[Mamid]

I read the link you supplied. A good deal of the information provided by the page you offer [putting the Locks of Love debate aside] is inaccurate and some of it is false

what's false? Are the Better Business Bureau reports that are linked on that page false?

I will not change my opinion of Locks of Love when I, myself, did my own research years ago when I first started to grow my hair.

 

[satindesire]

//hijack//

I also have very long hair and always wondered if it were possibly a fetish to anyone.

As a matter of fact, I keep my nails -and- my hair very long.

 

[ammre]

what's false? Are the Better Business Bureau reports that are linked on that page false?

I will not change my opinion of Locks of Love when I, myself, did my own research years ago when I first started to grow my hair.

No, the better business bureau reports are OLD. here is the link to the current report that says that the organization is fully up to snuff. The last report that is linked on that site says that they are only missing one item of the, then enforced, 16 Standards for Charity Accountability. That one item is the ability to make, on request their financial statements. There could be many factors in why they could not comply with that standard by the time the report was passed, and that only goes to show in 2005 they didn't have all their shit perfect. (I did not look at the IRS report or several reasons, It required a long in/sign up is the main one. The other report was barely worth looking at so I can't imagine this one would be much different. Finally, It's probably outdated like the other report)

The angelfire site you linked is linked off of a long hair care fanatic website, with a clear grudge against hearing, "Oh wow what long hair! are you going to donate it!?"
It doesn't seem like they are against the act of donating hair but just informing other long hair fanatics that they shouldn't feel guilty for not wanting to donate their hair, and to not give in to other's pressures to donate it.

Other then those potentially "shady" out dated records, that angelfire hair site you posted says nothing the Locks of Love site doesn't. I know because when I donated my hair I researched it like a fiend. If your hair sucks they are not obliged to use it for a kid. Just like when you donate clothing, items with rips and bad stains will not get passed on...

I'm not trying to make you donate your hair, clearly you're only out for the money that could come from it. That's why you even considered cutting it in the first place. I understand that, but that doesn't mean you should bite off someone's head (and backing yourself up with sources that don't actually back you up) for making a potential GOOD suggestion if current plans don't work out and you still felt like cutting it.
But hey, I understand financial situations, thankfully I've started riding a bike/carpooling, eating cheaper, using less electricity, mending clothes instead of buying new ones, and finding cheaper ways to have a good time, so that I wouldn't have to consider cutting off my hair so some dude can wrap it around his peepee and jizz on it. I wish you luck.

p.s. I hear eggs can go for at least 4k...

 

[Penalt]

not in Canada. Even surrogacy is pretty much blacklisted. It can be done, but not for compensation.

and I can't do another pregnancy.

(wrong account... Penalt logged in from my computer and I forgot to log him out.)