NeverEndingMe
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fuck you, you fucking idiots that want slave owner obama to put controls on guns. if you want that, move to fucking cuba you dumb ass slaves
Gun control, I'm sorry but fuck you
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Debbie
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Reported for using the f word and being insulting and rude and inane and silly and you smell funny too.
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Reported for using the f word and being insulting and rude and inane and silly and you smell funny too.
....plus your head rattles when you shake it.
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Obama hasn't put any gun control laws on the books to my knowledge and Cuba is restrictive but the people can still own guns.
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No single "developed" country has these constant mass killings by delusional, trigger happy killers. At least ban the sales of weapons over the net and at gun shows, fgs.
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Banning online sales wouldn't affect anything. As it is you can only buy a gun online if it is shipped to a dealer and a background check is done. Just like buying it straight from a store.
You can buy online from a private person but the transaction has to be in person and is no different than buying one from a private person who puts an ad out anywhere.
Shipping guns privately is typically illegal as is not doing a background check.
At gun shows dealers still have to do background checks. Private sellers do not but that applies almost across the board.
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I am no fan of Obama, but I think he did the right thing this time by waving the flag on gun control right off the bat.
For those will scream and call em a gun nut etc....(I do own them) look at it this way. After the shooting at the school in CT when Obama got on his horse about gun control and people got paranoid , gun and ammo sales sky rocketed(and seeing as how that is good for the economy and people working in that industry it was not a terrible thing and perhaps...that was intent?)
And he lost anyway and he would have again this time, but at least this time standing down right away won't lead to people racing to arm themselves because of fear of loss.
For those will scream and call em a gun nut etc....(I do own them) look at it this way. After the shooting at the school in CT when Obama got on his horse about gun control and people got paranoid , gun and ammo sales sky rocketed(and seeing as how that is good for the economy and people working in that industry it was not a terrible thing and perhaps...that was intent?)
And he lost anyway and he would have again this time, but at least this time standing down right away won't lead to people racing to arm themselves because of fear of loss.
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and you fucking idiot...gun control works so well in Chicago.
how the fuck does your kind get out of bed in the morning? do you take a stupid pill?
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http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/18/actually-president-obama-mass-killings-arent-unco
not true
get your facts straight before you open your moufff
Actually, President Obama, Mass Killings Aren’t Uncommon In Other Countries
Actually, President Obama, Mass Killings Aren’t Uncommon In Other Countries
JUNE 18, 2015 By David Harsanyi
President Barack Obama responded to the horrific shooting at a historic black church in Charleston that left nine dead with an earnest statement—well, other than that contention that was completely untrue.
Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.
Let’s set aside the assertion that it’s too easy to obtain guns in America and deal with the implication that we are somehow uniquely violent or that “mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.” The president has made this claim in various ways and with various qualifiers.*
Parlez vous Hebdo? Because surely the president recalls that in January of this year two gunmen entered the office of a satirical magazine in France with an assortment of guns and murdered 11 people (and injured 11 more). After leaving, they killed a police officer. And in a marketplace catering to Jews another five were murdered and 11 wounded. France is, allegedly, an advanced country, is it not? Perhaps if Obama had attended the anti-terror rally in Paris like every other leader of advanced countries did, his recollection would be sharper.
It only takes some quick research to discover that rampage killers, acts of terror (as the Charleston shooting most certainly is), school attacks, spree killers are not unique to the United States.
In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp. This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history. Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences.
It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing. In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11.
Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year.
It should be noted that not that long ago advanced nations in Europe were busy throwing people into ovens or starving millions on purpose. The idea that violence is uniquely American is best left to fringe leftists on college campuses. Moreover, as The Associate Press reported in 2012, many experts contend that mass shootings are not growing in frequency at all. One has data that shows that mass shootings reached their peak in 1929 and have declined steadily since. Overall, gun violence has also been declining since 1993.
Now, even one shooting is a tragedy. What happened in Charleston is horrifying and heartbreaking, and there’s nothing wrong with having a debate about how to avoid shootings in the future. As for the frequency of these events, there can be a host of reasons why we might have more rampages. Maybe we’re freer and this puts us in more danger. Maybe we need better mental health policies. Maybe, as the president argues, we have access to too many guns. I don’t think so, but make that argument rather than trying to score political points with a falsehood.
*Update: Most of the pushback on social media claims that I’m being unfair to Obama. The president, they argue, is saying that we have a higher frequency of shootings, not that mass shooting are a predominately American event. (Even then, he might not be right.)
It’s clear Obama is stressing separate points, and without doubt the perception he’s trying to create is that this type of “mass” violence is something that almost never happens anywhere else. It’s nothing new for him. Here’s his tweet from the speech yesterday:
At the very best, as Politifact might put it, his comments are half true. I’ve gone back and read Obama’s remarks over the years on gun issues and he’s always tossing around this idea. Sometimes he interchanges mass violence and all gun violence. Sometimes he compares us to the “developed world” and sometimes he compares us to the “advanced world”— it’s difficult to understand what countries he’s talking about. But he doesn’t always throw a qualifier in about frequency or anything else.
So if you don’t like the quote today, here is one from last year:
My biggest frustration has been that this society has not been willing to take some basic steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can do just unbelievable damage. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. And that it happens now once a week. And it’s a one day story.”
This “society” has a problem. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. Untrue.
not true
get your facts straight before you open your moufff
Actually, President Obama, Mass Killings Aren’t Uncommon In Other Countries
Actually, President Obama, Mass Killings Aren’t Uncommon In Other Countries
JUNE 18, 2015 By David Harsanyi
President Barack Obama responded to the horrific shooting at a historic black church in Charleston that left nine dead with an earnest statement—well, other than that contention that was completely untrue.
Once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun. … We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.
Let’s set aside the assertion that it’s too easy to obtain guns in America and deal with the implication that we are somehow uniquely violent or that “mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.” The president has made this claim in various ways and with various qualifiers.*
Parlez vous Hebdo? Because surely the president recalls that in January of this year two gunmen entered the office of a satirical magazine in France with an assortment of guns and murdered 11 people (and injured 11 more). After leaving, they killed a police officer. And in a marketplace catering to Jews another five were murdered and 11 wounded. France is, allegedly, an advanced country, is it not? Perhaps if Obama had attended the anti-terror rally in Paris like every other leader of advanced countries did, his recollection would be sharper.
It only takes some quick research to discover that rampage killers, acts of terror (as the Charleston shooting most certainly is), school attacks, spree killers are not unique to the United States.
In 2011, a deranged Anders Behring Breivik killed eight people by setting off a van bomb in Oslo, before going on to murder 69 more people, mostly children, at a summer camp. This is the single worst shooting spree incident in history. Obama surely remembers that he left the White House and visited the Norwegian ambassador’s residence to offer his condolences.
It takes only a rudimentary search to find out that mentally unstable killers can be found anywhere. In February of this year, nine people were killed in Czech Republic spree killing. In Erfurt, Germany, a couple of years ago, an expelled student murdered 13 teachers, 2 students and a policeman. That same year, in the Serbian village of Velika Ivanča, a gunman shot and killed 14 people—many of them his own relatives— and a Russia gunman opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle killing six people. A couple of years before that, in England, a lone gunman killed 12 people and injured 11.
Advanced countries or developing ones, it’s the same thing. In 2013 a mentally unstable man in Rio de Janeiro killed 12 children and seriously wounded another 12. And you might remember that China had an outbreak of mass stabbings, hammer and cleaver attacks not long ago. You don’t need guns to kill people. One man stabbed 22 children by himself. Two attackers killed 29 people and injured 143 at Chinese railway station last year.
It should be noted that not that long ago advanced nations in Europe were busy throwing people into ovens or starving millions on purpose. The idea that violence is uniquely American is best left to fringe leftists on college campuses. Moreover, as The Associate Press reported in 2012, many experts contend that mass shootings are not growing in frequency at all. One has data that shows that mass shootings reached their peak in 1929 and have declined steadily since. Overall, gun violence has also been declining since 1993.
Now, even one shooting is a tragedy. What happened in Charleston is horrifying and heartbreaking, and there’s nothing wrong with having a debate about how to avoid shootings in the future. As for the frequency of these events, there can be a host of reasons why we might have more rampages. Maybe we’re freer and this puts us in more danger. Maybe we need better mental health policies. Maybe, as the president argues, we have access to too many guns. I don’t think so, but make that argument rather than trying to score political points with a falsehood.
*Update: Most of the pushback on social media claims that I’m being unfair to Obama. The president, they argue, is saying that we have a higher frequency of shootings, not that mass shooting are a predominately American event. (Even then, he might not be right.)
It’s clear Obama is stressing separate points, and without doubt the perception he’s trying to create is that this type of “mass” violence is something that almost never happens anywhere else. It’s nothing new for him. Here’s his tweet from the speech yesterday:
At the very best, as Politifact might put it, his comments are half true. I’ve gone back and read Obama’s remarks over the years on gun issues and he’s always tossing around this idea. Sometimes he interchanges mass violence and all gun violence. Sometimes he compares us to the “developed world” and sometimes he compares us to the “advanced world”— it’s difficult to understand what countries he’s talking about. But he doesn’t always throw a qualifier in about frequency or anything else.
So if you don’t like the quote today, here is one from last year:
My biggest frustration has been that this society has not been willing to take some basic steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can do just unbelievable damage. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. And that it happens now once a week. And it’s a one day story.”
This “society” has a problem. We are the only developed country on earth where this happens. Untrue.
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Strange,
I would have thought the 'Right to Bear Arms' was no the right to 'Fire Arms' at the innocent and unarmed...
I would have thought the 'Right to Bear Arms' was no the right to 'Fire Arms' at the innocent and unarmed...
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go kiss a Muslim
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And the problem with America is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Busybody
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no, whore, it was YOU that extolled the virtues of Muslims when they took over the bakery
and pretended it meant NOTHING
go suck off your Muslim buddies and leave us alone
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I seriously believe only the police should be allowed them. Yep, THEY have made mistakes as has been well documented, but if they were completely outlawed one wouldn't need to defend against them right? I loved that concept in 'Enter the Dragon' where all guns were illegal on THAT island. Interesting idea, everyone being deadly with the skill of a martial art...
Isn't the Internet cool?
Anyone - even a piece of racist shit limey who has no practical say in the matter - can utopianly pontificate all he desires about something...
...when in real life it just can't happen without a nation going to war against itself.
And, I hate to double-pop your utopian bubble about that, too...
...but the side which wins will in no doubt be the one that refused to cede their natural right to keep and bear arms to defend precisely against what you fantasize.
Most sleeping Americans don't even have a clue how many Americans will fight to their deaths to enforce the Second Amendment, the Law of the Land...
...so it's no surprise foreigners have literally no idea either.
Thank God you have your games to play and movies to watch that allow you to wallow in your fantasies...
...eh, you racist piece of shit.
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nobody wants a gun .... but when a criminal (aka obama kind, Baltimore terrorist, Ferguson) shows up at your door step with one, then you bet your ass 150% of those people wished they had a gun!
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One day America will wake up & realize that it's 2015.
If you need a gun where you live, that's just plain scary.
Is that Alex Jones fruit loop still around lol
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"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." - Wayne LaPierre V.P. of the NRA
Turns out, not so much. Guns are very rarely used in self defense.
FBI raw homicide data - 2012
For every ONE justifiable homicide* in 2012 there were:
34 criminal gun homicides
78 gun suicides
and 2 accidental gun deaths.
*The FBI defines "justifiable homicide" by a private citizen as "The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony."
So for every criminal killed by a civilian in self defense, 114 innocent people die.
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Nice logical fallacies...
No guns would not change suicide rates.
It would barely change homicide rates.
A armed citizen stopped a felony over 280 times last year....
You don't have to kill a felon to save people or stop crime so your one justifiable homicide is also irrelevant.
Amazing we didn't hear about the lady who pulled a gun from her purse a few years back and kill a guy shooting people in a church
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One day America will wake up & realize that it's 2015.
If you need a gun where you live, that's just plain scary.
Is that Alex Jones fruit loop still around lol
L
sad ... you are a simpleton. carry on obama slave
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