Greetings

[alice_underneath]

Hello everybody,

A deep empathy for submissives, a never-ending joy in their company, and an irresistible urge to control and nurture them physically and emotionally have seen me happily through 20 years of owning my own slaves and of mentoring and helping scores of others.

I know that saying so will immediately draw hostile fire, but I am a Gorean Master. Here I am with my new slave, and of all things it's a darling little friend from my childhood! I am still not sure how I managed to end up with five--yes five--kids, but it's a riot (you may take that literally).

I'm looking for a safe place for my girl to discuss BDSM with other open-minded people, because prior to meeting me she didn't know BDSM existed. Before I allow her to post, I will monitor the atmosphere to be sure she will not feel persecuted, as is common in many online forums.

"...free women, it is no secret, in many respects, envy their enslaved sisters, their beauty, their joy, their attractiveness to men; this may explain why free women are often quite cruel to slave girls..."

Another thread currently active in the Cafe is called, "I had an epiphany about Gor". Having assumed that the "Gor" was a misspelled reference to blood, guts, et al, *shudders* I had not visited that thread. However, in the wake of the heads up given to me here by Marquis, I read that thread this morning.

After doing so, I understand your wariness, Lochlin. Some people clearly do make pejorative comments regarding Gor and the Gorean philosophy, and others clearly feel free to jest about it (including some people who are addressing you respectfully here).

The thread itself prompted many questions in my mind. For example, when you describe yourself as a "Gorean Master", are you saying that you roleplay various parts in the Norman books? Or, are you saying that you adopt certain ideas or philosophies of the books, and incorporate them into your specific flavor of BDSM?

The appreciation for submissives expressed in your initial post leads me to believe that you are not, in fact, misogynistic. However, I have a question. Would you respect, as a peer, a dominant female? Further, do you feel "deep empathy" for submissive males?

I hope that you will return, Lochlin, to address, explain, and/or dispel some of the stereotypes regarding Gor and its followers.

Speaking of stereotypes...... The stereotype of non-slave women in your quote above made me literally laugh out loud yesterday, because I considered it to be (a) absurd, and (b) more than a bit hypocritical. When I said "think about it", what I was asking you to consider is the fact that in the very same post in which you requested kind & respectful treatment for your girl, you included a nasty and disrespectful comment re other females.

Here's hoping that you will return, so that various stereotypes on all sides can be addressed, discussed and perhaps dispelled.

Alice

 

[chris9]

I just read this other thread (epiphany about Gor). And while it started making fun of it and noone seemed inclined to follow gor I felt the information given to be just. Now, Lochlin, I'd really like you to answer if it is.
From what I read from the summaries of the books I'm pretty sure that it's not for me. I'm worth as much or more than any man, but hey, each their own.
Should you or your girl return to participate here I hope we can expect as much respect from both of you as you require for you both.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

MINI HIJACK

For those users of the Forum that have an interest in learning more on the topic of Gorean Philosophy may I prepose the following site.

http://www.geocities.com/gorean_community/

"Before you lies Sardaria, a community of men and women sharing a belief in and commitment to a particular set of ideas and principles collected and commonly called Gorean Philosophy".

The Sardaria site was recommended to myself by a Gorean Master friend as a sort of resource to me during the course of our many thoughtful 'debates' on topics surrounding his chosen lifestyle.

Naturally in as there are so many expressions of D/s tops/bottoms blah blah , I do not in anyway expect this site to represent Lochlin nor his girl. Obviously I do not know them , how could I..........smiles

kind regards to all

@}-}rebecca----