Greenland

[Wilson23]

No previous POTUS saw any reason to take an interest in Greenland -- not the mineral wealth, not any strategic value. The only reason this is an issue now is because Trump is an egomaniac. He wants the distinction of being the first president to expand the American territory since 1898.

 

[Wilson23]

I can't BELIEVE we're about to break up NATO over this!

 

[Wilson23]

https://www.newsweek.com/funding-to-be-blocked-for-attack-on-greenland-under-new-proposal-11313183
Funding to Be Blocked For Attack on Greenland Under New Proposal
Senator Ruben Gallego is moving to block any U.S. military action in Greenland, introducing an amendment to the annual defense spending bill that would bar funding as he warned against getting involved in "more stupid wars of conquest."

The Democratic senator's comments come after President Donald Trump reiterated his wish to seize control of Greenland in an interview with The Atlantic on Sunday and separately to reporters aboard Air Force One.

 

[Wilson23]

Now they're saying the U.S. has the RIGHT to take Greenland if it's strong enough, on "law of the jungle" grounds.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

Greenland holds a decisive geostrategic position between North America, Europe and the Arctic Ocean. It is a coveted platform for projecting naval and air power and for controlling emerging Arctic sea lanes as ice melts.

The Trump administration’s talk of annexation and appointment of a special envoy signals a drive to secure forward bases, surveillance sites and chokepoints. This is necessary to enhance US ability to monitor and contest Russian and Chinese naval activity in the North Atlantic and Arctic—precisely the US ruling class must pursue war a global redivision of the world in order to sustain capitalism. Hence the growing Arctic dominance focus. Control of Greenland also facilitates deployment and protection of missile, radar and anti‑submarine systems which are central to NATO and US strategic deterrence against Moscow.

Moreover, beneath that ice lie mineral and hydrocarbon deposits—and rare earths and hydrocarbons that are increasingly accessible as climate change opens new extraction possibilities. Securing direct access to these resources is a necessary economic and military objective: US capital seeks to prevent European competitors and China from gaining upstream control of Arctic reserves and processing chains. Greenland’s natural wealth and location make it a prize in the broader scramble among imperialist powers for raw materials and strategic supply lines, a dynamic rooted in the capitalist drive for markets and profit.

Trump’s Greenland line exposes and exploits rifts within the transatlantic ruling class: US unilateralism threatens to cut European allies out of Arctic spoils and force its resentful junior partners into expensive rearmament and concessions. Europe’s rhetorical defense of Danish sovereignty is not a principled stand against imperial conquest; it reflects competing, bourgeois interests. They also want a slice of Arctic profit and influence. The new, US National Security Strategy explicitly prioritizes control of key geographies. It must redivide the world and reorder alliances to US corporate and strategic advantage to prevail in this intensifying competition among imperial blocs.

The Greenland gambit is driven by the US oligarchy, military contractors, energy firms and finance capital that profit from rearmament, resource grabs and imperialist conflict. Workers have no stake in those predatory schemes. The only road to blocking such interventions lies in the independent international mobilization of the working class against imperialism and capitalist plunder. Linking anti‑war struggle to the fight against austerity, private profit and the militarization of society is imperative. But it is the end of capitalism’s anarchic system.

 

[Wilson23]

the US ruling class must pursue war a global redivision of the world in order to sustain capitalism.

How is capitalism in any danger? It shows no signs of collapsing, and no one is seriously fighting against it any more.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

How is capitalism in any danger? It shows no signs of collapsing, and no one is seriously fighting against it any more.

Why is the redivision of the world necessary? Because the center of global capital cannot sustain itself otherwise! Why ongoing world pillage if the system could maintain US dominance otherwise? Would buy gold at some $4,400/oz were the dollar a stable and sound investment? Why the onslaught of fictitious narratives and concurrent turn to repression of the populace if the heinously vicious policies crucial to capitalism's survival could be imposed by any other means?

The points I named are by no means exhaustive. And if the narrative is pervasive, more people see through it daily.

 

[OralAllOver]

Trump is author of 3 failed marriages, no business partners (byebye Deutsche Bank) and no friends

Hurting those around him is what he does

 

[Wilson23]

Why is the redivision of the world necessary? Because the center of global capital cannot sustain itself otherwise! Why ongoing world pillage if the system could maintain US dominance otherwise?

Occam's razor would suggest that's all done just to enrich this capitalist or that, not in any conscious effort to preserve the system, which no capitalist perceives as under attack.

 

[Wilson23]

In all of human history, nobody has ever before fought over Greenland -- not even the Inuit, so far as we know.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

In all of human history, nobody has ever before fought over Greenland -- not even the Inuit, so far as we know.

and that argues against capitalism's desperation ... how?

 

[Wilson23]

and that argues against capitalism's desperation ... how?

See post #9.

 

[Cat]

Greenland holds a decisive geostrategic position between North America, Europe and the Arctic Ocean. It is a coveted platform for projecting naval and air power and for controlling emerging Arctic sea lanes as ice melts.

Then start some projects with the Greenlandic government.

The Trump administration’s talk of annexation and appointment of a special envoy signals a drive to secure forward bases, surveillance sites and chokepoints. This is necessary to enhance US ability to monitor and contest Russian and Chinese naval activity in the North Atlantic and Arctic—precisely the US ruling class must pursue war a global redivision of the world in order to sustain capitalism. Hence the growing Arctic dominance focus. Control of Greenland also facilitates deployment and protection of missile, radar and anti‑submarine systems which are central to NATO and US strategic deterrence against Moscow.

Then reopen your military bases up there? What is stopping you?

There are no laws stopping you. Neither Greenland nor Denmark got the right to stop you from doing that.

Moreover, beneath that ice lie mineral and hydrocarbon deposits—and rare earths and hydrocarbons that are increasingly accessible as climate change opens new extraction possibilities. Securing direct access to these resources is a necessary economic and military objective: US capital seeks to prevent European competitors and China from gaining upstream control of Arctic reserves and processing chains. Greenland’s natural wealth and location make it a prize in the broader scramble among imperialist powers for raw materials and strategic supply lines, a dynamic rooted in the capitalist drive for markets and profit.

Greenland is seeking business partners.. it is a capitalistic market, go go go!

Trump’s Greenland line exposes and exploits rifts within the transatlantic ruling class: US unilateralism threatens to cut European allies out of Arctic spoils and force its resentful junior partners into expensive rearmament and concessions. Europe’s rhetorical defense of Danish sovereignty is not a principled stand against imperial conquest; it reflects competing, bourgeois interests. They also want a slice of Arctic profit and influence. The new, US National Security Strategy explicitly prioritizes control of key geographies. It must redivide the world and reorder alliances to US corporate and strategic advantage to prevail in this intensifying competition among imperial blocs.

..... What are you talking about!?

It is Greenland's country. They own it all. "Ruling classes", "bourgeois interests"...
I get it, this is a site for fiction, but please do not present fiction as truth.

Fake information.

The Greenland gambit is driven by the US oligarchy, military contractors, energy firms and finance capital that profit from rearmament, resource grabs and imperialist conflict. Workers have no stake in those predatory schemes. The only road to blocking such interventions lies in the independent international mobilization of the working class against imperialism and capitalist plunder. Linking anti‑war struggle to the fight against austerity, private profit and the militarization of society is imperative. But it is the end of capitalism’s anarchic system.

......

Ehm... Greenland is an open and free country. They make their own laws.

The US will need to treat them as equals, and adhere to their laws, it is as simple as that.

Denmark and EU's responsibility is to make sure that no sleek tongued charlatans will cheat that country.

 

[Wilson23]

Look, we do NOT want a war where we have to fight Santa's elves.

They're a lot tougher than they look in the claymation Christmas specials.

 

[Bray123]

What will be required in 2027 to drown out the scandals of 2026?

Let's have a refresh. 2019, Impeachment.
Drowned out in 2020 by Insurrection.
Drowned out in 2021 by Impeachment about Insurrection.
Drowned out in 2022 by E. Jean Caroll.
Drowned out in 2023 by charges of stealing classified documents.
Drowned out in 2024 by 34 Felony convictions.
Drowned out in 2025 by Epstein Files.
Drowned out in 2026 by Colonization of Venezuela and Greenland? It's only week 1.

It'll need something decent to drown out 2026.

 

[Wilson23]

It'll need something decent to drown out 2026.

In 2027, we invade Canada.

 

[Cogan]

In 2027, we invade Canada.

If you manage to take over Greenland you'll have three directions you can attack from.

 

[Cat]

If you manage to take over Greenland you'll have three directions you can attack from.

Oh, and if they do manage to take Greenland, we better learn Russian really fast.



Godmorgen.
Det her er ved at være en pænt ubehagelig og udmattende situation.

 

[Wilson23]

Oh, and if they do manage to take Greenland, we better learn Russian really fast.



Godmorgen.
Det her er ved at være en pænt ubehagelig og udmattende situation.

Is your hovercraft full of eels?

 

[Cat]

Look, we do NOT want a war where we have to fight Santa's elves.

They're a lot tougher than they look in the claymation Christmas specials.

Oh... Are you talking about our Jaeger's corps? The Frog men? Or Sirius?

In any way, yeah.. They might be a bit tougher than those claymen.

Still... Nothing survives bombs, we all know that.

 

[Cat]

Is your hovercraft full of eels?

Frogs.

Not eels, but frogs.

And then we adapt.

Have a nice day.

 

[Cogan]

Oh, and if they do manage to take Greenland, we better learn Russian really fast.

Yes, that is probably the case.

Godmorgen.
Det her er ved at være en pænt ubehagelig og udmattende situation.

Godmorgon!
Det förstår jag. Jag tror inte många på den Svenska sidan tar detta så lätt heller.
Trumps grundlösa hätska uttalanden och oberäkneliga beteende gör att man förbereder sig för det värsta och hoppas på det bästa.

 

[Cat]

Yes, that is probably the case.

Precedent is a strong force.

Godmorgon!
Det förstår jag. Jag tror inte många på den Svenska sidan tar detta så lätt heller.
Trumps grundlösa hätska uttalanden och oberäkneliga beteende gör att man förbereder sig för det värsta och hoppas på det bästa.

Det mest frustrerende er de evige løgne, og ja de hadske ord, deres fornægtelse af historien, kulturen og de internationale regler.

Vi har også skiftet kurs, vi håber stadig på det bedste.. men er begyndt at forberede os på det værste.

Forhåbentligt kan det her vise hele Europa hvor vigtigt det er at vi står sammen.

Hvilket land bliver det næste?

 

[Wilson23]

Precedent is a strong force.



Det mest frustrerende er de evige løgne, og ja de hadske ord, deres fornægtelse af historien, kulturen og de internationale regler.

Vi har også skiftet kurs, vi håber stadig på det bedste.. men er begyndt at forberede os på det værste.

Forhåbentligt kan det her vise hele Europa hvor vigtigt det er at vi står sammen.

Hvilket land bliver det næste?

Do you want to come up to my place bouncy bouncy?

 

[Cogan]

Precedent is a strong force.



Det mest frustrerende er de evige løgne, og ja de hadske ord, deres fornægtelse af historien, kulturen og de internationale regler.

Vi har også skiftet kurs, vi håber stadig på det bedste.. men er begyndt at forberede os på det værste.

Forhåbentligt kan det her vise hele Europa hvor vigtigt det er at vi står sammen.

Hvilket land bliver det næste?

Danmark har mitt fulla stöd!
Jag skickar massor av styrkekramar!

(pssst, vet dom om de skandinaviska bosättningarna som fanns i USA 500 år före Columbus?)