Gorean Curiousity.

Halo Jumper

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Ok im reading this book (Anyone you want me to be. About this guy John Robinson)

In it talks a smal bit about the Gorean Sub-culture of BDSM and how it started from a 1950/60's fantasy book.

My questions are:

Is it a forced or or agreed relationship?

Can it be broken off any time?

By being a slave 24/7 how does that affect your family,friends or going to work?

Also does your master dictate if your
allowed to work at a good job or not?

What about if you wanted to goto school or somthing?

Im just totally new to this whole thing and it really isnt my kink and I support anyone who wants to do what they want but this stuff is terribly interesting to me.
 
The Gorean world of slavery is mainly based on a series of scifi books by John Norman ("Chronicles of Gor") which are very popular on the web.

In addition to the link Des gave you, the following links provide more information on Gor and its traditions.

http://gor-on-earth.com/

http://www.goreanforum.com/top/?from=40&cid=0

http://www.worldofgor.com/gorlinks.asp

http://www.gor.net/

http://directory.google.com/Top/Adult/Society/Lifestyle_Choices/Gorean/

http://www.gor-on-earth.com/

http://www.pantheus.com/TGV.shtml

i don't believe there are a lot of Gorean enthusiasts around lately, but feel free to peruse the links and continue your discussion regarding your interest. If there are any Masters and/or kajira who lurk, please feel free to chime in and share your information with Halo. Good luck.

lara
 
There is a lot of discussion around this already, which our gorgeous librarian has already pointed you towards.

I've read just about all of the Gor books by John Norman, but mostly because I enjoy Fantasy, rather than because of the "lifestyle" they propose.

In the books... the slave lifestyle is generally NOT voluntary (although some do volunteer). Also, slaves are treated as chattel and animals. Frankly, while it does read as great male fantasy, it's not something I agree with.

The Gorean community differ slightly from the books, but I haven't really been attracted enough to do much investigation.

Having said that, I started reading the Gor books when I was around 14, and they are one element that led me to begin fantasising about owning a woman as my sex slave. So even if indirectly, they have helped lead me to BDSM.
 
I can lend a hand here. No, it can not be lived like it is in the books,ppl may say they do but they cant. Most people who actually live the gorean lifestyle for real live as any Master/slave would...and add things to their personal rituals etc that are in those books.
Most of the questions you asked would be or could be answered by anyone in a M/s relationship.
 
I used to be involved with a Gorean Master, and I have to tell you, it just feels darn silly -- like you're acting out Star Trek or something. I am just your regular painslut/bdsmer at heart, always have been since I started at 18.

I have to add it was interesting nonetheless -- some of the philosophies are worthwhile, and the other slaves out there Real Time do seem to be a bit less willfull, but it just felt, silly. I think that there are some great links that were already presented here.

Good luck!
 
malcah_ms said:
I used to be involved with a Gorean Master, and I have to tell you, it just feels darn silly -- like you're acting out Star Trek or something. I am just your regular painslut/bdsmer at heart, always have been since I started at 18.

I have to add it was interesting nonetheless -- some of the philosophies are worthwhile, and the other slaves out there Real Time do seem to be a bit less willfull, but it just felt, silly. I think that there are some great links that were already presented here.

Good luck!

Someone wanna come here and flame me for my opinion?

It feels darn silly because it is. It's role-playing and pretend. This is planet Earth and it IS the 21st century. Those Gor-heads need to get real.

Or not....

aaaaaaaaahahahhahaha
 
Originally posted by A Desert Rose
Someone wanna come here and flame me for my opinion?

It feels darn silly because it is. It's role-playing and pretend. This is planet Earth and it IS the 21st century. Those Gor-heads need to get real.

Or not....

aaaaaaaaahahahhahaha


LOL exactly.....sigh. Can someone say I was painted with embarrassment? giggles.
 
malcah_ms said:
LOL exactly.....sigh. Can someone say I was painted with embarrassment? giggles.

Well, dont be embarrassed. We all do things that become part of the learning process...

I ain't telling my embarrassing secrets, though. They go to the grave with me.

aaaaaaaahahhahahahaha

But in all honesty... I do *heart* you malcah. ;-)
 
A Desert Rose said:
Someone wanna come here and flame me for my opinion?

Can I toast you gently over a BBQ instead? Basted with melted butter... yummy :D

I figure if people want to base their life on some book and they're not hurting anyone by doing so, well, we've all seen that before! Several books spring to mind (Bible, Koran, Kama Sutra, Dynanetics) so what's one more?
 
I read a bunch of Norman's books years ago; the first 7-8 were not bad once you got past his kind of quirky writing style.

The idea of a "counter-earth" was clever, if not entirely new, and he managed to stick in a bunch of pretty accurate stuff about various historical cultures, modified for the Gorean experience.

And there was plenty of lovingly-detailed BDSM stuff too, of course.

Then it was as if his publisher said, "John, the S-M crowd is eating this stuff up! Heavy on the slave stuff!"
And subsequent books gave you pages of lame "me Master you Slave dialogue", held together with the thinnest of plots.

Norman even published a "Guide to Imaginative Sex" sort of thing; I have no idea if it's still available.

The whole thing strikes me as possibly-amusing roleplay, certainly not a "lifestyle".
 
FungiUg said:
Can I toast you gently over a BBQ instead? Basted with melted butter... yummy :D

I figure if people want to base their life on some book and they're not hurting anyone by doing so, well, we've all seen that before! Several books spring to mind (Bible, Koran, Kama Sutra, Dynanetics) so what's one more?

Well maybe I'm wrong and there's a group of people out there who role-play (i.e. pretend) to be Mary and Joesph... who knows. Joesph being a carpenter, I'd guess he had access to some real kinky toys or at the very least, could make them.

But I don't see your connection to the KamaSutra, the Bible and that other stuff.

I'm just not into pretending I'm from another planet. But hey... that's just me.
 
A Desert Rose said:
I'm just not into pretending I'm from another planet. But hey... that's just me.

Neither am I. In fact, I'm rather against some of what is in the whole Gor "lifestyle". It's way to open to the possibility of abuse for my liking.

But... other people do base their lives on books. That's their choice. It doesn't work for me, and even if I were to base my life on a book, I could think of things way more fun than Gor.

As a comparison, there are a whole heap of people who follow The Story of O. So there's another example of a sexual lifestyle which has come out of a book.
 
FungiUg said:
Neither am I. In fact, I'm rather against some of what is in the whole Gor "lifestyle". It's way to open to the possibility of abuse for my liking.

But... other people do base their lives on books. That's their choice. It doesn't work for me, and even if I were to base my life on a book, I could think of things way more fun than Gor.

As a comparison, there are a whole heap of people who follow The Story of O. So there's another example of a sexual lifestyle which has come out of a book.

I feel kind of like someone is trampling on my right to free speech, expression and opinion.

I never said that people can't pretend to be anything they want to be. This is my opinion on pretend sex play and I am not imposing it on anyone past saying that I, personally don't like it.
 
A Desert Rose said:
I never said that people can't pretend to be anything they want to be. This is my opinion on pretend sex play and I am not imposing it on anyone past saying that I, personally don't like it.

Agreed. What you said was:

A Desert Rose said:
It feels darn silly because it is. It's role-playing and pretend. This is planet Earth and it IS the 21st century. Those Gor-heads need to get real.

I wasn't arguing your point about role playing; in fact, I don't even mention role playing. Instead I talk about people who base their lives on books. It's a separate point.

You are entitled to express your opinion. In this case, mine even agrees with you.
 
I've read up to about #15 of the Gor books and enjoyed them immensely, though as mentioned above, the last couple books seemed to get awful repetitive on preaching the "Master/slave" philosophy and thin on plot.

Of course you can't base life on a sci fi book, but I for one found much of the books and ideas have fed my fantasizing times quite nicely! The auction blocks, the cages, the branding, the collars, the highly erotic dancing, etc. etc. etc. And there are lots of ideas from the books that can be incorporated into real life D/s, especially for those couples who enjoy rituals.

Sir and I are not Gorean at all, but we have both read the books and, for the most part, enjoyed them.

justina
 
malcah_ms said:
it just feels darn silly -- like you're acting out Star Trek or something.
Heyyyy, you say that as if it's a bad thing! :devil:
http://www.sexytrek.com/ anyone??

I actually don't have a problem with role playing; years of being a geekhead have taught me better. But it's when you let the line between RPG and RL blur that you run into problems.
 
Don't get me wrong. I absolutely adore, and I mean embarrassingly adore Star Trek, especially Next Generation. But role playing has its place -- like Etoile said, when it crosses the line into RL -- it just gets a bit um...bizarre?

I don't judge however. I think folks need to do what makes them happy. But from personal experience, I'd take just reg BDSM any day.
 
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