GOP Debates!

[hmmnmm]

Sorry, this is not a very erotic thread topic, and it breaks my personal vow of politics chastity. But I must get this out and off somewhere and in a peaceful style.
So take it or leave it, disregard, let the thread evaporate as necessary.

First, I never liked the Clintons, even back in 1992. I can't say why, because I've heard from more than one source who have had first-hand contact with them that they are 'really nice people'. Fine... I never met them and I doubt I ever will, so, from this humble perspective I will still say I don't like, nor do I trust The Clintons.
Long ago, when the first inklings of a Hillary candidacy wafted across the media landscape, my first thought: If Hillary becomes president, I am definitely departing the USA. That sentiment grew and continued, remained...

Until last night.

After watching the GOP debates on FOX, I can't believe it I even thought this - but Hillary suddenly doesn't look too bad.
Anybody else get this ominous sensation as they watched? Like a officer's club of death squad thugs dressed in GOP party outfits? Fucking scary.

Okay... never mind
Sorry.
Just had to get that out.
Feel much better now.
Well, not that much...

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

I don't suppose Fred Thompson was there? He might not be too horrible.

As a libertarian I'm saddened at the image of Ron Paul flopping on his back and spreading his legs with hand out. OK, he's not quite gone that far, but it is depressing to hear about him apparently pounding on issues that are hardly associated with the freedom movement, like illegal immigration. I assume he share's my views on that - hand out work permits like candy so that only bad people need to sneak in, then "get tough" on them, but I understand he's only talking about the second part of that formulation.

I say "I hear" because my stomache is not strong enough to take political posturing no matter what side it's on. Including phony 'debates.'

 

[hmmnmm]

I say "I hear" because my stomache is not strong enough to take political posturing no matter what side it's on. Including phony 'debates.'

I'm pretty sensitive to such matters, too. The tv just happened to be on, and there they were.
It's antithetical to the pursuit of erotica, that's for sure.

 

[S-Des]

I don't suppose Fred Thompson was there? He might not be too horrible.

As a libertarian I'm saddened at the image of Ron Paul flopping on his back and spreading his legs with hand out. OK, he's not quite gone that far, but it is depressing to hear about him apparently pounding on issues that are hardly associated with the freedom movement, like illegal immigration. I assume he share's my views on that - hand out work permits like candy so that only bad people need to sneak in, then "get tough" on them, but I understand he's only talking about the second part of that formulation.

I say "I hear" because my stomache is not strong enough to take political posturing no matter what side it's on. Including phony 'debates.'

The debates have been absolutely terrible so far, almost everyone is complaining about them. The format is bad, the candidates simply ignore the questions they don't like (and no one points out that they aren't answering), and some of the obscenely ignorant questions asked by moderators are insulting to everyone who has a real concern about this country (on any side of the issues). Additionally, including everyone who says they are going to run, even if they register less than 1% of support in the polls is just wasting everyone's time. It would be different if they were real debates and the participants could use the forum to challenge the real candidates on ideas, but it's become soundbyte answers that don't have any substance whatsoever.

There are no specific candidates I can actually get behind at this point besides McCain, and even he isn't as trustworthy as he used to seem (after his pandering to the right the last time around). I still have some hope that Obama will emerge, but he's so inexperienced it's frightening. The whole situation makes me glad they're starting so early this time around. I can ignore the whole thing until it gets better (hopefully).

 

[hmmnmm]

These about-face feelings surprise me more than I could have dreamed. I mean, I was one of those "anybody but Hillary" people.
Today, if the election were held and it was Hillary vs Giuliani... It would be an easy Hillary selection (though I'd still be dusting off my passport, browsing travelocity).

The impression I get (which could be way wrong), is that with Hillary, she's so used to the Clinton-bashing, the investigations and accusations groundless or legit, all the parodizing, that the editorial cartoonists, the satirists would have no shortage of inspirational material, and nobody would get too upset.

With the Giulianis and McCains I get the impression that, with their fear-factor stance on 'terrorism', you'd have to be real careful how you worded any criticism of them or the state of the nation. I get the impression that those guys would actually hunt you down.

Christ, something erotic... something erotic.

 

[rgraham666]

Shrugs.

If we're unhappy with our politicians, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

 

[S-Des]

Shrugs.

If we're unhappy with our politicians, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

There you are wrong, my friend.

Times have changed.
Our kids are getting worse.
They won't obey their parents;
They just want to fart and curse!

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

NO! Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full o' lies!

Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault!
It's Canada's fault!

Don't blame me
For my son Stan.
He saw the darned cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!

And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf,
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself.

Well? Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along!

Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway!

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer, rich and true.
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a barbecue.
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck, no!

Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hullabaloo
And that bitch, Anne Murray, too.

Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

For the Smut we must stop, the trash we must smash.
The laughter and fun must all be undone.
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming
Us!


And again Matt & Trey sum up all of society's woes in a song.

 

[rgraham666]

Snicker.

 

[hmmnmm]

Snicker.

...or humor.
That's fine, too.