good idea?

[L0GIC]

Marry me. I'm easy going.

Based on the words you highlighted, I don't think easy going is the thing I'm going to worry about.

 

[bronzeage]

I'm trying to figure out how catcalling in the street equals some sort of mating ritual. Where, in any reality, does a cry of "Nice ass, baby!" as the guy grabs his genitals pass as the first overture of romance? Is this an American thing?

It's not a mating ritual in the strictest sense. It's a domination ritual among men. You'll seldom see a man catcalling, when he doesn't have an audience of his peers. He's trying to raise his status in the group.

 

[hashtag45]

It's not a mating ritual in the strictest sense. It's a domination ritual among men. You'll seldom see a man catcalling, when he doesn't have an audience of his peers. He's trying to raise his status in the group.

SO TRUE.

1.Come to think of it, the incidents which are clearly aimed at sexual gratification (frotteurism in busses, exposing themselves, upskirt filming and so on) are mainly done in isolation.

2.Whereas the other ones -whistling or asshat comments (ranging from gooffy jokes to offensive lingo), or the 'ass grabbing'- are usually done when the guy is in a group of his peers. So more likely to be driven by what you said.

So clearly the motivations are different. Whether they qualify as sexual harassment - that's a different story.
No 1. certainly do. As to no. 2 - more on a case by case basis, imo. (the 'ass grabbing' certainly does, but the one-off whistling and more benign asshat comments - not ).


Always appreciating your insights.

 

[Noor]

That makes sense, indeed.
But as to "someone grab your ass on a bus, someone trying to take a photo up your skirt or inviting you to give them a BJ..."

Wtf? Do such things happen at such an alarmingly high rate in the US or UK?
If so, what the hell is going on over there?

Yes.

Manatees are gentle, much misunderstood creatures.

Yes and mantatees are so cute in person! Guinea pigs are another gentle misunderstood creature who don't eat their young. They are herbivores like manatees.

 

[Hard_Rom]

It's not a mating ritual in the strictest sense. It's a domination ritual among men. You'll seldom see a man catcalling, when he doesn't have an audience of his peers. He's trying to raise his status in the group.

By shouting out demeaning and humiliating things at women. Fuck free speech! What about a women's right to not be subjected to such remarks which are degrading and hurtful? That over rules free speech. Fine him the cost of a good drunken weekend and toss him in a cell for that weekend. See if he want's to be a loud-mouthed asshole after that.

 

[dolf]

You misrepresented what I said. I said that in a way in which it is processed as "She's stupid." It's a way of coping with a rejection. I don't literally mean that she's stupid.

Is that a healthy way to cope with rejection? By

 

[hashtag45]

, ......

 

[hashtag45]

By shouting out demeaning and humiliating things at women. Fuck free speech! What about a women's right to not be subjected to such remarks which are degrading and hurtful? That over rules free speech. Fine him the cost of a good drunken weekend and toss him in a cell for that weekend. See if he want's to be a loud-mouthed asshole after that.

So: as far as I've seen of your posts, and according to your (Rory-type of) logic:

Christian males should be thrown in jail for whistling and being loudmouthed.
Fuck free speech!

Whereas muslim men should be allowed to impose burkas and hijab on their women, have sharia courts clearly biased in fav. of men, and have other misogynistic practices.
Cause freedom of religion!

 

[stickygirl]

You misrepresented what I said. I said that in a way in which it is processed as "She's stupid." It's a way of coping with a rejection. I don't literally mean that she's stupid.

That's ok - I didn't literally mean that men didn't have a say either

 

[bronzeage]

By shouting out demeaning and humiliating things at women. Fuck free speech! What about a women's right to not be subjected to such remarks which are degrading and hurtful? That over rules free speech. Fine him the cost of a good drunken weekend and toss him in a cell for that weekend. See if he want's to be a loud-mouthed asshole after that.

Maybe the laws in Canada are different, but the Sticks and Stones ruling (see Supreme Court records, 1966) made it clear that the police can't arbitrarily throw a man in jail and take his money for saying, "Hey babe, I got something for you."

 

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