Good Feedback Finally

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Reader wanted to know when I planned to put sympathetic characters in my stories. All are awful. NEVER if I can help it. I want them as feral as possible.

 

[colddiesel]

Mebbe one or two goody characters might be interesting. You could build them up in the minds of the readers then bring them down to the depths of depravity and squalor.

For example you could start off with young guy, mebbe a psychologist /social worker sumthin' like that, full of good intentions, then have him gradually turn into a cynical worldly wise old bastard, totally corrupted by his experience. The sorta story that makes readers want to shoot themselves.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mebbe one or two goody characters might be interesting. You could build them up in the minds of the readers then bring them down to the depths of depravity and squalor.

For example you could start off with young guy, mebbe a psychologist /social worker sumthin' like that, full of good intentions, then have him gradually turn into a cynical worldly wise old bastard, totally corrupted by his experience. The sorta story that makes readers want to shoot themselves.

hahahaha I lived it with my career. I went thru all my schooling, marshaled all my life experiences, and spent years on the couch resolving my malignant baggage, to discover that what my colleagues, clients, and supervisors really wanted was sex. Lets slip off to the Annex and fuck, or Jimmy can you stop by the house and move some bedroom furniture after work?

I also saw where that road went, and its not a good place. Age catches up with you, and at the end youre replaced with a younger, friskier bull. Lotsa men fall into that trap. They rule the harem for a while, but no man rules the harem. You serve their pleasure.

Your advice is good, and if I find an ending that isn't a suicide note or life in prison I'' make millions and share it with you.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mebbe one or two goody characters might be interesting. You could build them up in the minds of the readers then bring them down to the depths of depravity and squalor.

For example you could start off with young guy, mebbe a psychologist /social worker sumthin' like that, full of good intentions, then have him gradually turn into a cynical worldly wise old bastard, totally corrupted by his experience. The sorta story that makes readers want to shoot themselves.

It occurs to me that we're re-inventing OF HUMAN BONDAGE, where Philip Carey is corrupted until he meets Sweet Sally and decides to fake love and enjoyment of a simple, conventional family life.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Mebbe one or two goody characters might be interesting. You could build them up in the minds of the readers then bring them down to the depths of depravity and squalor.

For example you could start off with young guy, mebbe a psychologist /social worker sumthin' like that, full of good intentions, then have him gradually turn into a cynical worldly wise old bastard, totally corrupted by his experience. The sorta story that makes readers want to shoot themselves.

Thanks for the help, I figgered it out, your check is in the mail. Philip need not die or rot in prison, and the ending will make old ladies swoon from the romance.

 

[VenusButterflies]

Reader wanted to know when I planned to put sympathetic characters in my stories. All are awful. NEVER if I can help it. I want them as feral as possible.

Why not put fake sympathetic characters in? I.e. make them sympathetic up until the last part, then . . . surprise! Rip away the illusion. I'm sure readers might love that.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Why not put fake sympathetic characters in? I.e. make them sympathetic up until the last part, then . . . surprise! Rip away the illusion. I'm sure readers might love that.

Sure. Tess Trueheart, the girl next door, worships him. In the end he gets his shit together, and she elopes with a Negro rock band.

 

[VenusButterflies]

Sure. Tess Trueheart, the girl next door, worships him. In the end he gets his shit together, and she elopes with a Negro rock band.

Or in the end he gets his shit together, and sells her to a Negro rock band.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Or in the end he gets his shit together, and sells her to a Negro rock band.

Gals love to run off with the carnival. Some of the carnivals have dorm trailers with small compartments for sleeping. If a gal aint fussy she can make money with free room and board.

 

[AMoveableBeast]

Why not put fake sympathetic characters in? I.e. make them sympathetic up until the last part, then . . . surprise! Rip away the illusion. I'm sure readers might love that.

I have a story that does just this, and judging from it, they don't. It seems, in fact, that they hate this more than anything and sometimes wish your death because of it.

 

[VenusButterflies]

Gals love to run off with the carnival. Some of the carnivals have dorm trailers with small compartments for sleeping. If a gal aint fussy she can make money with free room and board.

Lol.
It's an exotic sexual buffet. All set to do-do-doodle-do-do-do-do-do-do.

 

[VenusButterflies]

I have a story that does just this, and judging from it, they don't. It seems, in fact, that they hate this more than anything and sometimes wish your death because of it.

Right, I thought that was the point in this case.
This makes me want to write some anti-fan fic where Christian Grey cheats on Anastasia Steele because she's just not submissive enough for him. Something like that.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Lol.
It's an exotic sexual buffet. All set to do-do-doodle-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Ah! You've never seen carnies up close.

I brought a young woman with me to the carnival, she was a freshly minted PhD and assigned to me for field training...a carnival case. She was gorgeous...Swiss/ Italian. And as we strolled thru the carnival the crew devoured her with their eyes. I said to her, "If I let them hide you inside the trailer I could get a lifetime free pass."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

TOO GRITTY a reader says.

I assume GRITTY means AS IT IS.

My materials come from real life, and the next episode to post contains these real events I've adapted:1. Two girls pick a guy up at a bar, slip him a Mickey Finn, take him someplace where their boyfriends sodomize him, and leave him naked at a public place afterwards.2. A husband threatens his wife with divorce if she refuses to swing, she does, and he leaves her anyway. She threatens suicide, I put her in the hospital, she gets out and kills herself. 3. At Tallahassee I come across two FSU girls fucking in the cemetery atop a marble slab.

 

[slyc_willie]

Here's one you can use, Jim:

When I was in the Army, there was a sergeant who was cheating on his wife with a local girl. The wife found out, shot the husband (he survived and refused to press charges), then divorced him and ran off with the girlfriend. I'm sure you'd want to put your own spin on it, of course.

 

[SikFuk]

All these suggestions - all of them good ones - bring to mind the AprilSmithSucks situation, which is why I didn't post my suggestion yesterday. (My idea was to introduce a sympathetic character that gets corrupted by the situation and ends up in ruins. JBJ could offer that ruined character redemption, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. heh heh.)

 

[SikFuk]

.... no man rules the harem. You serve their pleasure....

This is why I was never motivated to put JBJ on ignore. Nuggets.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Here's one you can use, Jim:

When I was in the Army, there was a sergeant who was cheating on his wife with a local girl. The wife found out, shot the husband (he survived and refused to press charges), then divorced him and ran off with the girlfriend. I'm sure you'd want to put your own spin on it, of course.

Good idea. Lotsa merit. Thanks.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

This is why I was never motivated to put JBJ on ignore. Nuggets.

I usta sell epigrams to newspaper puzzle writers. Hadda be original and snappy.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

All these suggestions - all of them good ones - bring to mind the AprilSmithSucks situation, which is why I didn't post my suggestion yesterday. (My idea was to introduce a sympathetic character that gets corrupted by the situation and ends up in ruins. JBJ could offer that ruined character redemption, but we all know that ain't gonna happen. heh heh.)

Hold on. I hatched a story of a trailer dwelling woman with 4 kids and #5 on the way. Her husband leaves as does the baby daddy. The state gets involved, and she's forced to accept help from a therapist retired from the Marine Corps with Drill Instructor experience. He's a blend of Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann and the DI Louis Gossett played in Officer and a Gentleman.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Naaah. I now think I'm better off adding a sympathetic female detective to the cast of characters. She'll soften 'Suitcase City' and it will mildly temper her steel in return.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Reader says I'm the best of the LIT writers, and I suck. Is that good?

 

[SecondCircle]

Nah take what you can get JBJ. That or we could start a thread where we all raise hell about charming comments.

 

[VenusButterflies]

Reader says I'm the best of the LIT writers, and I suck. Is that good?

You should just respond with, "No u!" I think that's what I'm going to do with all negative feedback from now on.

But I guess that's good, right? You have been crowned the least suckiest writer of Lit.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

You should just respond with, "No u!" I think that's what I'm going to do with all negative feedback from now on.

But I guess that's good, right? You have been crowned the least suckiest writer of Lit.

And MASTER PORNOGRAPHER.

I replied how we get no money or love for our stories, so we write what we want.