GM pulls sponsorship from "Survivor: Race Relations"

[RoryN]

Whoever greenlighted this mess is going to regret it.

(Or make a killing on cable television.)

 

[Killswitch]

Its the best marketing on tv Ive seen in a decade.

Its what the people want to see.

 

[RoryN]

Its what the people want to see.

Agreed.

Its the best marketing on tv Ive seen in a decade.

No; it's actually a marketing disaster, illustrated in part by this major sponsor dropping out. In fact, I bet the show never sees the light of day.

 

[LinearMan]

There was something equally fucking stupid a few years back that never made it to air, can't remember what it was now... do you recall, Rory?

 

[RoryN]

There was something equally fucking stupid a few years back that never made it to air, can't remember what it was now... do you recall, Rory?

There've been a couple that I only barely recall. One had "Desmond Phiffer" in the title, but that was a sitcom...

...oh, wait. The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer.

 

[LinearMan]

There've been a couple that I only barely recall. One had "Desmond Phiffer" in the title, but that was a sitcom...

...oh, wait. The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer.

Oh, what I'm thinking about was a reality show... something really offensive that Fox thought was a good idea. I think it was something related to adoption???

 

[Beco]

Whoever greenlighted this mess is going to regret it.

(Or make a killing on cable television.)

are you kidding? I cant wait!

 

[Beco]

Agreed.

No; it's actually a marketing disaster, illustrated in part by this major sponsor dropping out. In fact, I bet the show never sees the light of day.

they make so much money on product placement, they dont need sponsors...

 

[RoryN]

Oh, what I'm thinking about was a reality show... something really offensive that Fox thought was a good idea. I think it was something related to adoption???

Yeah - that sounds familiar. And they axed it before it aired.

When I say this next Survivor will "never see the light of day", it's probably more accurate to say race relations will be downplayed, and that there'll be a re-tooling.

they make so much money on product placement, they dont need sponsors...

...

...do you know how this works?

 

[Killswitch]

Agreed.



No; it's actually a marketing disaster, illustrated in part by this major sponsor dropping out. In fact, I bet the show never sees the light of day.

Trust me....theres a dozen other sponsors waiting in line with as much cash as GM.

 

[Beco]

Yeah - that sounds familiar. And they axed it before it aired.

When I say this next Survivor will "never see the light of day", it's probably more accurate to say race relations will be downplayed, and that there'll be a re-tooling....

...are you familiar with how all of this works?

No Mr Hollywood please enlighten me

 

[RoryN]

Trust me....theres a dozen other sponsors waiting in line with as much cash as GM.

Watch the news, and see how many of them sign on after this.

Report back.

No Mr Hollywood please enlighten me

If you don't know, then why would you make such a statement?

 

[Killswitch]

The shows given people what the statistics say they want for years.

Two blacks, one asian, five women, six guys. Whats the difference?

Every day its the blacks against the whites against the asians against the mexicans.


Did GM pull ads for the world cup soccer?

 

[Lavared]

Is this a regular Survivor where race relations happened to become a big issue or are you talking about a show deliberately made around the premise of somehow "surviving" race relations?

 

[Wrong Element]

Yeah - that sounds familiar. And they axed it before it aired.

When I say this next Survivor will "never see the light of day", it's probably more accurate to say race relations will be downplayed, and that there'll be a re-tooling.

I don't see how they can retool a show that's already in the can. I suspect that anything potentially inflammatory has already been edited out, but they can't stop sponsors etc. from reacting to the premise itself.

 

[phrodeau]

I suppose the show didn't have enough racism to satisfy the folks at GM.

 

[RoryN]

Every day its the blacks against the whites against the asians against the mexicans.

Deep.

I don't see how they can retool a show that's already in the can.

Editing.

II suspect that anything potentially inflammatory has already been edited out, but they can't stop sponsors etc. from reacting to the premise itself.

True.

 

[SleepingWarrior]

Hmmm whats all the hubbub about anyway? Sure, the groups are divided by race but does that mean its going to lead to things done in bad taste? I seem to remember a simular reaction to the thought of dividing the teams by gender and then by gender and age and it turned into nothing offensive.

 

[Bluesboy2]

This looked like something that finally had all the potential the who wants to marry a midget show had.

What happened to Pauly Shore's TV show anyway?

 

[RoryN]

Hmmm whats all the hubbub about anyway? Sure, the groups are divided by race but does that mean its going to lead to things done in bad taste? I seem to remember a simular reaction to the thought of dividing the teams by gender and then by gender and age and it turned into nothing offensive.

What's considered "offensive" is up to the individual's point-of-view.

 

[Killswitch]

Hmmm whats all the hubbub about anyway? Sure, the groups are divided by race but does that mean its going to lead to things done in bad taste? I seem to remember a simular reaction to the thought of dividing the teams by gender and then by gender and age and it turned into nothing offensive.

and its not like they dont use a mathmatical formula in picking the players by race and nationality anyhow.

Perhaps its that "Whitey" doesn't want too many Non Whites on prime time television at the same time?

They are fine when its the Token though arent they.

 

[SleepingWarrior]

What's considered "offensive" is up to the individual's point-of-view.

So, your reasoning here is fundamentally flawed.

I'm talking about a public outcry by anyone after the shows premiered.

 

[SleepingWarrior]

and its not like they dont use a mathmatical formula in picking the players by race and nationality anyhow.

Perhaps its that "Whitey" doesn't want too many Non Whites on prime time television at the same time?

They are fine when its the Token though arent they.

Ugh I hate agreeing with you in any way, shape or form but you may have a point. Outside of the old UPN network this is probably the most diverse show people have seen on network TV in years, 12 out of 16 contestants will be minorities instead of the normal 5-6 out of 16 Survivor usually trotted out.

 

[RoryN]

I'm talking about a public outcry by anyone after the shows premiered.

"Public outcry" is also subject to interpretation.

Survivor places people in compromising positions to create drama, and this is the context the race vs. race thing lies within. You can re-interpret it to death (as CBS is attempting to do), but dems the facts.

 

[Brenda Stein]

There is no such thing as public outcry. Name one show where "the people" or any other group successfully yanked off TV.

Aaron Spelling gave the people what they want, if the ratings prove it, this season of Survivor will be what the people want.