gluttony will bankrupt english nhs say Medical experts

[dominatrixjane]

gluttony will bankrupt english nhs say Medical experts


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/17/obesity-bankrupt-nhs-warning

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2014/09/serious-about-obesity/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3200327/Diabetes-threatens-bankrupt-NHS.html

 

[Saint_Ann]

Nothing cures gluttony faster than famine.

 

[oggbashan]

Nothing cures gluttony faster than famine.

Nothing cures panic about another threat to NHS funding than shortened life spans caused by diabetes.

They can't have it both ways. People live longer? They cost more. People die earlier? They apparently still cost more.

The taxes on alcohol and tobacco pay far more into the NHS than the cost of treating people with conditions caused by alcohol and tobacco. The sinners are subsidising the righteous.

PS. It's all part of the annual argument between those running the NHS and the government. "We want more - and more - and more!". The NHS gets more, and more, and more but it still is never enough. If they really tried to run the NHS efficiently? They wouldn't need so much money to do better - but politics get in the way.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Nothing cures panic about another threat to NHS funding than shortened life spans caused by diabetes.

They can't have it both ways. People live longer? They cost more. People die earlier? They apparently still cost more.

The taxes on alcohol and tobacco pay far more into the NHS than the cost of treating people with conditions caused by alcohol and tobacco. The sinners are subsidising the righteous.

PS. It's all part of the annual argument between those running the NHS and the government. "We want more - and more - and more!". The NHS gets more, and more, and more but it still is never enough. If they really tried to run the NHS efficiently? They wouldn't need so much money to do better - but politics get in the way.

You can only divide up a dollar, or whatever you all are using for money these days, into so many pieces. Once you put one foot into the Socialism canoe, best be prepared for low water.

 

[Sean]

You can only divide up a dollar, or whatever you all are using for money these days, into so many pieces. Once you put one foot into the Socialism canoe, best be prepared for low water.

And yet the UK's "socialist" system costs less than half per capita what the US' profit led system does and provides better healthcare.

 

[Saint_Ann]

And yet the UK's "socialist" system costs less than half per capita what the US' profit led system does and provides better healthcare.

For all 10 of you.

 

[Sean]

For all 10 of you.

Do you not understand what "per capita" means, Bert?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Do you not understand what "per capita" means, Bert?

I do, George. Per capita of 10 is 1/10. Which would you rather have, 1/10th of a hemorrhoid or 1/10,000th?

 

[Sean]

I do, George. Per capita of 10 is 1/10. Which would you rather have, 1/10th of a hemorrhoid or 1/10,000th?

What?

 

[Saint_Ann]

What?

Think about, George.

 

[Dribble]

Wow....

 

[oggbashan]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/OECD_health_expenditure_per_capita_by_country.svg/600px-OECD_health_expenditure_per_capita_by_country.svg.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

 

[oggbashan]

I do, George. Per capita of 10 is 1/10. Which would you rather have, 1/10th of a hemorrhoid or 1/10,000th?

Think about, George.

If we think about it, all we can think is that you failed math miserably.

 

[Saint_Ann]

If we think about it, all we can think is that you failed math miserably.

It's not the math. It's a lot easier to manage a small problem than a large one.

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

It's not the math. It's a lot easier to manage a small problem than a large one.

You debate like a (moronic) man.

 

[Sean]

I think we all owe the OP a vote of thanks for providing Bert the opportunity to show that he's an imbecile.

 

[Super-Surprise]

gluttony will bankrupt english nhs say Medical experts

Not if "Hinkley Point C" and the other new nuke power plants bankrupt the nation first...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...deal-behind-worlds-most-expensive-power-plant

 

[Queefer]

If we think about it, all we can think is that you failed math miserably.

I think we all owe the OP a vote of thanks for providing Bert the opportunity to show that he's an imbecile.

*chvckles*

 

[Saint_Ann]

I think we all owe the OP a vote of thanks for providing Bert the opportunity to show that he's an imbecile.

You never were good at understanding large concepts, George.

 

[oggbashan]

You never were good at understanding large concepts, George.

You're still useless at math.

The population of Europe is large yet almost all European countries have universal health care. How it is organised differs country by country yet none of them pay as much as the US for health services - and they cover everyone!

EU population 508 million
US population 321 million

PS. I can apply for a European Health Care Card which covers me almost anywhere in Europe:

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...erland-medical-treatment-brexit-a7821261.html

Does the EHIC cover everywhere in Europe?

No. Key omissions include the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, Monaco, San Marino and the Vatican. If these places figure in your travel plans, then you should seriously consider travel insurance.

While the former Yugoslavian republics of Macedonia, Montenegro and Serbia are outside the EU and the EEA, the UK has reciprocal health-care agreements which work like the EHIC.

Further afield, there are similar bilateral arrangements with other countries, such as Australia and New Zealand, for which the EHIC is not required. Note, however, that these treaties do not cover the journey between the UK and Australasia.

 

[Saint_Ann]

You're still useless at math.

The population of Europe is large yet almost all European countries have universal health care. How it is organised differs country by country yet none of them pay as much as the US for health services - and they cover everyone!

EU population 508 million
US population 321 million

England's healthcare system handles all of Europe? You can't even effectively care for a population roughly that of California.

 

[oggbashan]

England's healthcare system handles all of Europe? You can't even effectively care for a population roughly that of California.

You can't read, can you?

 

[Saint_Ann]

You can't read, can you?

Yes George, I can. Stop drawing false equivalencies.

 

[Queefer]

Yes George, I can. Stop drawing false equivalencies.

Poor bernard, even ogg thinks he's a dumbass.

 

[Trigger_Warning]

I do, George. Per capita of 10 is 1/10. Which would you rather have, 1/10th of a hemorrhoid or 1/10,000th?

Per capita means per person