Georgia State Superintendent of Schools on evolution: more Republican strangeness

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Somehow, I just don't get the point of the decision by the Georgia State Superintendent of Schools to eliminate the word "evolution" from science curricula in Georgia schools.

Superintendent Kathy Cox said the concept of evolution would still be taught under the proposal, but the word would not be used in the curriculum. The proposal would not require schools to buy new textbooks omitting the word evolution and would not prevent teachers from using it.

Cox, a Republican elected to the post in 2002, repeatedly referred to evolution as a “buzzword” Thursday and said the ban was proposed, in part, to alleviate pressure on teachers in socially conservative areas where parents object to evolution being taught.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4107285/

It doesn't surprise me, though. The Republican party of today has abandoned all sense of its former self so it's no great shock to see this. Kathy Cox is only following her party's leader, after all. Back before 9/11, there was an issue burning that I'm sure GWB is most happy got buried by his wars. Remember his decision on stem cell research? That was an equally ambivalent ethical sidestep. In it, George said that it was okay to use stem cell lines already in labs, but not okay to create any new ones.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010809-2.html

Like this decision in Georgia, it was an attempt to appease the religious right without really addressing the issue at hand. Either stem cells and evolution are wrong, and should be banned altogether, or they are not wrong and should be fully allowed. If evil they are, then eradicate them. If not, don't try to sweep them under the rug by tossing your fanatical followers a bone. For God's sake, at least have the conviction to choose, one way or the other.

What kills me is that so many of GWBs followers portray him as a man with true moral conviction, who makes decisions based on what's right because he knows in his heart the right path to follow. Bullshit. The man has all the moral character of cocaine fiend...er...well, maybe that shouldn’t be a surprise either.

Republicans today are abandoning their roots faster than fleas hopping off a dying dog. Finding themselves in power, they suddenly have begun doing all the things they've bitched about liberals doing for decades. The flip-flop of the right-wingers goes something like this:

*Republicans are big spenders (where oh where did that balanced budget go?).

*Republicans want the federal government tell us how to teach our children in schools (does anyone really believe no child will be left behind?).

*Republicans believe the federal government should take control of marriage laws away from the states (so much for their time-honored notion of self-determination at the local level).

*Republicans say something is bad, but then abandon their moral high ground by giving it their (backhanded) blessing to continue (stems cells and evolution).

Hypocrisy. If I had to choose a singe word to describe why I dislike our current administration (and the party it represents) so much, that would be it.
 
That was the laughingstock subject de jour on the radical right-wing running dawg radio today...

Keep up.

They bagged on her.
 
aren't we fortunate that the party of the rich and supposedly well educated have decided to deprive the children of the working and middle classes (the ones who have to use the Ga public school system) of a decent science education? Maybe they were worried that all those Hope scholarships were going to help the regular kids in competition with the private school elite?
 
I'm glad the Democrats are finally realizing that Bush is a Democrat and not a Socialist.

It's about time....
 
fille said:
aren't we fortunate that the party of the rich and supposedly well educated have decided to deprive the children of the working and middle classes (the ones who have to use the Ga public school system) of a decent science education? Maybe they were worried that all those Hope scholarships were going to help the regular kids in competition with the private school elite?

Uh... drivel, mantra, idioelegy...

The rich can afford whatever the fawk they want.

DOH!
 
Fawkin'Injun said:
I'm glad the Democrats are finally realizing that Bush is a Democrat and not a Socialist.

It's about time....

It's nice to have you on our side at last. But your buddy GWB just won't admit it!
 
Kathy Cox used to be my Georgia State Senator, I was relieved when she was elected State School Superintendent because I felt like she was no longer in a position to directly harm Georgians with her whacked out sense of priorities....

Boy was I wrong.

Cox got absolutely crucified in the papers last Sunday when the draft of her proposed revision to the Georgia high school standard history curriculum was released. She wants the history of the world from the beginning of time to 1876 taught in the first 3 weeks of school, with the remainder of the school year spent studying 1876-present. Laughable.

As bad as that was, her Biology revisions are even more onerous. Its apparants she's toadying to right wing extremists.

And the news conferences she holds!! She could give Ishmael a run for his money with evasive answers, non-sequiturs and deliberate falsehoods!
 
fille said:
aren't we fortunate that the party of the rich and supposedly well educated have decided to deprive the children of the working and middle classes (the ones who have to use the Ga public school system) of a decent science education? Maybe they were worried that all those Hope scholarships were going to help the regular kids in competition with the private school elite?

You have noticed that the two front-runners for the Democratic Nomination are a man who is the wealthiest Senator who married into big business fotunes twice and a wealthy trial lawyer?

Let's not start slinging the "party of the rich" feces around.
 
Sigh, it's not a "Republican" thing. I know multitudes of Southern Baptists who vote a straight Democratic ticket that would eliminate evolution being taught in the schools at all. Your topic heading is specious and misleading. It's a religious issue not a Dem. or Rep. issue.

Quite frankly it's about as stupid as suspending a kid for pointing a finger "like a gun." The whole system has gone insane.

Yet another argument for vouchers.

Ishmael
 
Uh, Throb, did you see my thread on, "Guess the Politician," where consultants use Videos of Hillary to teach Politicos on how to NOT answer direct questions?
 
JazzManJim said:
You have noticed that the two front-runners for the Democratic Nomination are a man who is the wealthiest Senator who married into big business fotunes twice and a wealthy trial lawyer?

Let's not start slinging the "party of the rich" feces around.

They are certainly present in both parties. But it seems that only one expends most of its energy protecting their interests.
 
AGAIN! A_J's position before this gets too deep.

All religious people are insane. It might be a warm, soft, fuzzy insane, but it's still insane.
 
Perhaps the offended parents could just have their kids opt out of class whenever the heresy of evolution is being taught.

They could go to the gymnasium and sing hymns or something...
 
Ishmael said:
Sigh, it's not a "Republican" thing. I know multitudes of Southern Baptists who vote a straight Democratic ticket that would eliminate evolution being taught in the schools at all. Your topic heading is specious and misleading. It's a religious issue not a Dem. or Rep. issue.

Quite frankly it's about as stupid as suspending a kid for pointing a finger "like a gun." The whole system has gone insane.

Yet another argument for vouchers.

Ishmael

There's no question that a big segment of the Democratic party gets nutty on the question of religion too, particularly in the South. Pandering knows no party, I suppose.
 
That's why the Senate was founded, to protect the intrerests of the States and the Republic. Since the amendment putting the Senate up to Mob rule went in effect, we keep getting people like Kerry who are more beholden to the Party (and mob rule) than to their states and their best interests.
 
Problem Child said:
Perhaps the offended parents could just have their kids opt out of class whenever the heresy of evolution is being taught.

They could go to the gymnasium and sing hymns or something...

Your suggestion violtas seperation of church and state.
 
Ishmael said:
Sigh, it's not a "Republican" thing. I know multitudes of Southern Baptists who vote a straight Democratic ticket that would eliminate evolution being taught in the schools at all. Your topic heading is specious and misleading. It's a religious issue not a Dem. or Rep. issue.

Quite frankly it's about as stupid as suspending a kid for pointing a finger "like a gun." The whole system has gone insane.

Yet another argument for vouchers.

Ishmael

It's just one more example of how Republicans are more than willing to do unto us what they bitched about for years was being done unto them. Of course it's a political issue. Who are you trying to fool with that? It's politics and it's all about turning tables when you get a chance rather than standing up for what you believe (not necessarily you personally, but you get my drift, I think).

It's about hypocrisy.

And sure, the title is a bit specious, but I ran out of room to put in what I really wanted to. Tell me you've never done that yourself. :p
 
fille said:
They are certainly present in both parties. But it seems that only one expends most of its energy protecting their interests.

The Democrats are like that, but they have to be. You see as the party of the Unions they have to protect big business. If they didn't the companies wouldn't have the money to pay the union demands for higher wages. Funny how things just aren't quite what they seem to be. :D

Ishmael
 
fille said:
They are certainly present in both parties. But it seems that only one expends most of its energy protecting their interests.

So you're saying the Democrats don't expend most of their energy protecting their interests?

I will laugh an awful lot of you say "yes".


FYI, I don't believe the President is a conservative in the least. I believe that he does have some views in that direction but that, fundamentally, he is not. I believe he's been doing what he believes is the right thing to do and compromising on issues where he has no strong personal opinion one way or the other - or can find no strong advice from those close to him.

OTOH, he's worlds better than anything the other party has to offer on the two issues I think are far and away the most pressing right now - national security and international terrorism.
 
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