Gastric Bypass and BDSM

[Betticus]

Okay, there is a guy at work who is close to retiring. A few years ago he had gotten gastric bypass surgery. He used to weigh around 450 pounds or more. This got me thinking about weight loss, a lot of people get the gastric bypass.

I thought about the weight loss itself after this guy at work started porking up. He has a love of candy and eats it almost constantly. So I was thinking, it's not the surgery that makes you lose so much weight. It is the post surgery diet and exercise program. So why not research post gastric bypass diet programs. Which I did.

My thought is that you can reap all the benefits if you just follow the post bypass diet and exercise stuff. Not the immediately post surgery stuff but the fully healed up and this is your normal diet forever part. Cuts out the expensive middleman.

Any thought?

 

[FurryFury]

Okay, there is a guy at work who is close to retiring. A few years ago he had gotten gastric bypass surgery. He used to weigh around 450 pounds or more. This got me thinking about weight loss, a lot of people get the gastric bypass.

I thought about the weight loss itself after this guy at work started porking up. He has a love of candy and eats it almost constantly. So I was thinking, it's not the surgery that makes you lose so much weight. It is the post surgery diet and exercise program. So why not research post gastric bypass diet programs. Which I did.

My thought is that you can reap all the benefits if you just follow the post bypass diet and exercise stuff. Not the immediately post surgery stuff but the fully healed up and this is your normal diet forever part. Cuts out the expensive middleman.

Any thought?

Sounds good to me! Surgery scares the crap outta me. I'd only do it if absolutely needed to save my life and even then I'd be worried it would end it, but that's just me.

 

[CutieMouse]

Aaaand the post-surgery diet tends to be very deficient in nutrients, mess with your iron levels, screw with your body-chemistry, and weaken your immune system/muscle tissue/etc. No thanks.

Sorry- had a friend die this past year from complications that were a result of both issues at the surgery site after a car accident, and the horrible position she was in nutritionally- which made her an almost impossible candidate for surgery to repair the damage at the incision site... she died while waiting to get healthy enough to not die on teh operating table.

 

[FurryFury]

That's horribly tragic. I'm sorry.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

There are much better and nutritional sound diets to try... Post-gastric bypass diet is like it is because it's the the only way they can get food that will digest.

If you want to diet, try South Beach, or Weight Watchers. Learn to eat like a normal person. Hell, if I can lose weight on an 1800 calories a day heart healthy/diabetic friendly diet, and exercising about 30 minutes a day 3 days a week, anyone can. It may not come off fast, but it will come off.

 

[ecstaticsub]

I do think if my Dom would just order me to stay away from ice cream and work out everyday it would be so much easier..Obeying him is easy, making myself do it is so much harder.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

I do think if my Dom would just order me to stay away from ice cream and work out everyday it would be so much easier..Obeying him is easy, making myself do it is so much harder.

Have you asked him to order you to do these things, so you can be healthier, and around longer for him?

 

[Betticus]

C'mon guys, I am talking about the diet they recommend after you are fully healed up and acclimatized. About a year after the surgery.

It sounds a lot like the anti-aging diet tips.

I am not suggesting going on a liquid, blended foods diet. Essentially baby food.

 

[ecstaticsub]

Have you asked him to order you to do these things, so you can be healthier, and around longer for him?

No, I am not comfortable asking him to order me to do anything. I am doing pretty good on my own though. I walk 3.5 miles 4 days a week and do yoga 3 times a week.

 

[CutieMouse]

C'mon guys, I am talking about the diet they recommend after you are fully healed up and acclimatized. About a year after the surgery.

It sounds a lot like the anti-aging diet tips.

I am not suggesting going on a liquid, blended foods diet. Essentially baby food.

My point was that people who are a year post-op, still have stupidly small stomachs, and consume far less food (blended/real/whatever), than they are able to get enough nutritional value from to maintain a healthy body.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

I do think if my Dom would just order me to stay away from ice cream and work out everyday it would be so much easier..Obeying him is easy, making myself do it is so much harder.

Have you asked him to order you to do these things, so you can be healthier, and around longer for him?

No, I am not comfortable asking him to order me to do anything. I am doing pretty good on my own though. I walk 3.5 miles 4 days a week and do yoga 3 times a week.

Hmmm... I won't repeat EG's and my favorite sermon (communicate x 3 ), but come to think of it, the fact that you're doing this on your own is a good thing. And if your reason for doing so is what I suggested (health and longevity for/with him), then your doing it on your own is even better - and perhaps may make it a little easier for you to keep it up, if you think of it that way.

ETA: Sorry for the hijack, Betticus. I'll stop now.

 

[HottieMama]

Since i had my baby in November, i have lost over 70Lbs. (i only gained 12 for my entire pregnancy...so technically 58 under where i started.) The way i have done this is by primarily eliminating sugar/white flour from my diet, and *managing* to keep my disordered eating under control. It is not easy, but let me fucking tell you, it feels SO good to be comfy in a size 18 jeans as opposed to stuffing myself into a 26. i am FAR from thin, but i actually think i look good...most days.

 

[graceanne]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a post operation diet a lot of clear liquids and stuff? Cause yeah, you'll loose weight, but it's not worth it. First off - where does your energy come from? I mean, in your food. Carbs. You know, bread, noodles, cereal, etc. That's what it's at the bottom of the food pyramid, you need more carbs than anything else.

Beyond that, you eat jello for two weeks straight, and I guarantee you'll never eat it again. *gag*

 

[HottieMama]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a post operation diet a lot of clear liquids and stuff? Cause yeah, you'll loose weight, but it's not worth it. First off - where does your energy come from? I mean, in your food. Carbs. You know, bread, noodles, cereal, etc. That's what it's at the bottom of the food pyramid, you need more carbs than anything else.

i'm gonna disagree with you here on the simple fact that while yes, you do need carbs, you actually will get more energy, and longer lasting energy from proteins. Carba are converted to sugar by the body, which is really only a temporary energy fix.

 

[graceanne]

i'm gonna disagree with you here on the simple fact that while yes, you do need carbs, you actually will get more energy, and longer lasting energy from proteins. Carba are converted to sugar by the body, which is really only a temporary energy fix.

Processed carbs (like white flower, sugar, etc) give you temporary energy. Whole grains and things like that give you long lasting energy. Protein is for repairing tissues, and helps with fatigue by making stamina and stuff, but it's of no good without the carbs to produce the energy. Here's a good link:

http://www3.georgetown.edu/admin/auxiliarysrv/dining/Nutrition/protein.html

edited to add: Protein is difficult for some people to digest.

 

[Etoile]

HottieMama, I think you look great!

gracie, he's talking about the long-term maintenance, not the immediate post-surgery requirements.

Betticus, you wouldn't ever get me on that diet. My wife is a candidate for this surgery (though she is almost too skinny for it) but I won't let her get it. It's too radical a life change.

 

[Betticus]

My point was that people who are a year post-op, still have stupidly small stomachs, and consume far less food (blended/real/whatever), than they are able to get enough nutritional value from to maintain a healthy body.

Then how do they not die?

 

[Betticus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a post operation diet a lot of clear liquids and stuff? Cause yeah, you'll loose weight, but it's not worth it. First off - where does your energy come from? I mean, in your food. Carbs. You know, bread, noodles, cereal, etc. That's what it's at the bottom of the food pyramid, you need more carbs than anything else.

Beyond that, you eat jello for two weeks straight, and I guarantee you'll never eat it again. *gag*

Ok, you actually have to read what I wrote.

 

[Etoile]

Then how do they not die?

There's a long way between not having a healthy body and dying. It's malnutrition but it's not starvation.

 

[CutieMouse]

Then how do they not die?

The live on suppliments- which long term are not absorbed to the degree the human body needs in order to maintain a healthy body. I talked with my friend about this before she died- a side effect of her diet (which was necessarily vitamin/supplimental pill heavy), was hair loss, poor dental health, anemia, and liver issues.

 

[Betticus]

HottieMama, I think you look great!

gracie, he's talking about the long-term maintenance, not the immediate post-surgery requirements.

Betticus, you wouldn't ever get me on that diet. My wife is a candidate for this surgery (though she is almost too skinny for it) but I won't let her get it. It's too radical a life change.

This gastric maintenance diet is a lot like the anti-aging long term diets that are now being looked at. As a result of animal testing.

 

[Netzach]

The diet that treated my gut and my weight best was SCD - it's restrictive, it's boring food, and it is, my MD's reluctantly admitted, nutritionally sound.

All carbs derive from veggies fruits and a couple of legumes - mostly bananas. None from grain whole or otherwise, but you don't wind up doing the meat loading no veggie ketosis thing from Atkins, which is just bad.

 

[HottieMama]

HottieMama, I think you look great!

Thank you...about 30-40 more lbs and i'll be happy.

 

[Betticus]

The diet that treated my gut and my weight best was SCD - it's restrictive, it's boring food, and it is, my MD's reluctantly admitted, nutritionally sound.

All carbs derive from veggies fruits and a couple of legumes - mostly bananas. None from grain whole or otherwise, but you don't wind up doing the meat loading no veggie ketosis thing from Atkins, which is just bad.

SCD? What's that?