GaryBob2's apology, rant and promo ideas

Gary Chambers

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My first Literotica story, Shayden's Tower, was posted on the 7th or 8th of Nov., somewhere there abouts. Within a short time I was receiving some reader feedback. I acknowledged that feedback, of course, whenever email addresses were supplied. But just at that crucial time, my server gave me technical problems and when I phoned them to sort it out, they fixed the problem but deleted all my waiting email on the server. That means any other feedback there is lost.

Am I pissed? You bet. But there is nothing I can do except vent steam here and apologise to any readers who find this posting. Believe me, I would have acknowledged any feedback you sent had my server been half way competent.

As for the promotion of stories and poems, I have an idea which I was implementing when my server decided to screw me up. It may be of use to other Literotica writers, especially poets who say they don't get enough feedback or votes compared to total number of readers.

It doesn't matter whether you write for Literotica or some big glossy magazine, if you are a writer you need to be a self promoter too; a literary prostitute. If you were writing for big magazines or publishing books, you would need to go on the rubber chicken circuit, doing book signings at book stores; appearing on literary TV or radio talk shows; doing readings at coffee houses and luncheon clubs; earning your ulcers from eating cold rubber chicken in motel rooms as you tour. Online it may be easier. Here's what I'm planning to do. It's too late with Shayden's Tower thanks to my moronic server, but I plan to try all these things with my next story. I'd be interested to know what others think of these ideas.

1.) Make an email list of everyone you know who you think might enjoy your latest work. Send them all a form email with a link, inviting them to read your story or poem. Also invite them to email their friends and ask them to visit too.

2.) Always acknowledge people who send you feedback. It can be done with a polite form letter, so it doesn't have to take too much time.

3.) Make and print out some small posters to put in places like coffee houses, library bulletin boards, Internet cafes and, since we are writing erotica, in places like exotic dance clubs and singles bars.

4.) Offer to do readings at libraries and book stores, and send press releases announcing your latest published effort to your local papers and broadcast stations.

5.) Make some banner and button ads and use the various free or paid services on the Internet to upload these ads promoting your story published at Literotica, linking the ads to your story, of course.

6.) Don't spend all your time here in the Hangout. Go to the Literotica Chatrooms every day or two. There is a Literary Lounge there and another room called Stories and Authors. Meet your readers there, and potential readers, and chat with other authors and poets. If you're really adventurous, use your writing talent to give the odd new acquaintance a Private Message session they won't soon forget. Hell, I even do phone sex when asked, and although I'm heterosexual in real life, I'm bisexual in chat, but I always make sure my partners are aware of what I'm doing on this side of the site too. Frankly, I get very little sexual satisfaction out of cyber or phone sex, almost none, but my partners seem to enjoy themselves, and when one of them signs off with a thankyou and remarks that they want to read my story, I feel like one very high class hooker, and that ain't so bad believe me. It's improv theatre over there folks, and theatre is also a literary art form. If you are a serious erotica writer, shouldn't you be one of Literotica's star improv performers?

7.) Build a free thumbnail gallery Web page of erotic or porn pictures and lace that page with ads and promotions linked to your output here at Literotica. You can get the pictures for free. Just visit one of the sites for adult Webmasters to find links to the free pictures. Usually all they want in return is a link to their site.

Shameless self promotion? You bet it is. So bite me. Better yet, come on over to the chatroom and spank me red (provided you kiss it better afterwards of course *wink). Literotica seems a good online publisher of our chosen genre of poetry and prose. The more professionally we create and promote our work and ourselves, the more credibility and traffic Literotica will receive. It's a symbiotic relationship.

You can probably think of other similar promo ideas. Please share them here in the Authors Hangout, and I'd love to hear what others think of this kind of promotional attitude.

Oh, and if your server screws you up after you've done all this work, drop in and piss on its rug. If you deal with a company called Telus (my server), it certainly doesn't mind pissing on your rug.

GaryBob2;)
 
No Quasimodem, these are all people I know. I just went through my personal email address book. I didn't buy addresses from a Spam company. But it's a valid issue and thanks for pointing it out.
 
GaryBob2 said:
4.) Offer to do readings at libraries and book stores, and send press releases announcing your latest published effort to your local papers and broadcast stations.
Dear GB,
Ummmm...... I don't know what kind of stuff you write, but I don't think I could ever do that. I just can't picture myself getting up in front of a bunch of strangers and reading one of my stories. Well, maybe "At the Zoo" or "Frieda the Cat." Wearing a bag over my head, of course.

Maybe I could have Mom and Dad post announcements of my latest smut on the bulletin boards at their hospitals.
MG
Ps. I did a reading of "Casey at the Bat" when I was in seventh grade. As I remember, though, that didn't have a single, "Ohhh, fuck me, FUCK MEEEEEE!! in it.
Pps. It would be fun to get some people together to record one of DurtGurl's masterpieces. "Patty and the Jukes Fambly" would be great with a few sound effects and cat noises.
 
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Excellent idea Garybob. I admire you and your creativity and drive.

Don't know if you've noticed but a few of the more inventive/knowledgeable authors here actually have in their sig. lines, a thingy whereby you can join a mailing list of their work

Gauche
 
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MathGirl you're a case, and I love you're profile pic btw. You're right, of course, that not everyone would want to do all these things, and not every lbrary wants people reading, "Fuck me, fuck me hard," aloud on their premises. I draw the line at mom and dad, though. Why should they object to you gaining greater success as a writer? It's prudes and puritans who need to feel embarassed about themselves, not us.

GaryBob2
 
Alternately, #4 sounds like something workable, that I could do.


Example:


SOMETHING NEW FOR STORY HOUR!
Public Library Children's Story Room


QUASIMODEM

Reads his erotic thriller

"Attack of the Slug-Ugly!"


After the initial reading a Q & A period will follow.


Some of the questions we will be discussing, are:

How likely am I to be raped by Interstellar Sex Fiends?

Does this incident highlight a growing trend?

How seriously do average police forces take this threat?

How many other reports have been documented?

Considering the sophisticated weaponry owned
by these obviously advanced alien felons,
how can their depredations be curtailed
by our law enforcement agencies:

Incarceration?

Deportation?

Media Exploitation?

Re-introduction of Weirgeld?




Yeah! I think I'll just call the local Library, right now, before I forget. ;)
 
I only email people who have signed up for it using a double opt-in method.

Spam is sending unsolicited email advertising things---the identity of the recipient is immaterial.

As for the rest? Muffie is blase.
 
You don't look too blase, Muff ;) .

This thread is more fun than I thought. I think I'll take some photos in an elevator.

best to you, GB2,

Perdita
 
Quasimodem said:
... trying to photograph your down? :eek:
That was really good, Quas, laughed way out loud.

My elevators don't go up or down, you'd know that if you read my stories ;) .

cheers, Perdita
 
I could do public readings. I enjoy talking, I enjoy reading out loud. In fact, last week I gave a quick public reading to a few friends - 2 blokes, 3 girls - and they seemed to like it. Very good fun it was.

By the way, the chat never works in my browser.
 
perdita said:
Aw, Sugar. You'd rather frame Quaz than me? :( dismally, Dita

Ice ADMIRES your frame! (noun)
ME, he wants to frame. (verb) :rolleyes:
 
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And a very nice frame it is, too, Perdita. I'd be happy to stop the elevator between any floors you'd like. Oh, and I like the elf look. Are you helping Santa this year?

GaryBob - need help with putting a link to your story in your sig line? It should look something like:
Shayden's Tower
which comes from:
[ URL=http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=115011]Shayden's Tower[/URL]
all you have to do is go to your control panel (link at the top of the page) edit your profile (second link in the boxes near the top), and paste the line above in your sig, removing the space between the bracket'[' and the 'URL'.
If you have any problems, send me a PM and I'll walk you through it.

-FF (wasting away in nano land - doesn't sound as good as margaritaville, does it - maybe that's what's wrong with writing young adult fictoin - what mispelling, that's what it sounds like to me about now, the vibration of the bow just before the arrow goes through my muse - who ever came up with the name novel was an idiot - there's nothing novel about it)
 
ffreak said:
And a very nice frame it is, too, Perdita. I'd be happy to stop the elevator between any floors you'd like. Oh, and I like the elf look. Are you helping Santa this year?
Eff, you haven't read my stories either or you'd know my character is the elevator operator (if you were a wealthy Japanese gent you'd be her customer).

Sigh. Being called an elf was not what I was aiming for in my recent AV shots.

Perdita :rolleyes:
 
Okay, I confess, even if my server hadn't applied a threaded cattle prod to my rectum, I still wouldn't have been able to do all the things I suggested at the outset. It would be quite a lot of work, and would have be started some time before the story or poem was even submitted. The concept of promoting literature and writers, however, is proven and should be just as possible for net authors as anyone else.

Funny you should mention pictures in elevators, perdita, because that's something I've been puzzling over. There is a glass elevator similar to the one I used in Shayden's Tower, located in Vancouver, Canada. That's where I got the idea for the story. Most men's magazines aren't buying as much fiction as they used to, athough they still want to review my photo sets. So I've been thinking, why not write stories and submit them with photo illustrations? This might bring back the hard copy markets for short stories, and make the packages more valuable in the process. But I'm trying to figure out with Shayden's Tower, for example, how to get the pix without getting arrested. Maybe I'm worrying about nothing. I'll bet people *have* tried to have sex in that elevator. It's the first thing I thought of when I first saw the lift years ago. I wonder whether my favourite model and her boyfriend would like a trip to the big city? I think I'd have to keep a lawyer standing by though.

Thanks ffreak, I managed to do as you suggested. Now if only the chat profiles worked I could do it there too.



Sanchopanza, I'm not sure how well prose readings would go down. There's a shock value there that might make it work with the right crowd. Of course, a small private dancer type reading like the one you suggested might be more fun. Somebody needs to open a chain like Starbucks, only call it 'Hedo'spresso'; attract a more Bohemian crowd. Hell, it may all sound crazy, but then they thought I was crazy in about 1973 when I suggested all the journalists at the tabloid I worked on agree to work naked. Now it's 2003 and we have The Naked News on cable. I just call it thinking of the...I mean thinking outside the box.

No gauche I hadn't noticed, but it seems a worthy idea. I'm more open about my erotic creations than many, but I still find it hard to promote. Living in a puritanical cow town doesn't help either.

Quasimodem, I don't quite know whether you're jesting, but I hope not, because an erotic story about aliens would much easier to get accepted for a public reading than something featuring real human beings. Why don't you give it a try? They can only say no, or the librarian might request a more private reading *g. Either way your ship comes in.

gauchecritic, thanks for the kind words. Having recently started doing bi stuff in chat with my monkey passing the hat, I'll be looking to you for more than encouragement. Short of plagiarism (the most sincere form of flattery) I might also be hunting your prose for inspiration.

Start with a confession, why not end with one. Half the reason fo this and other posts is to get rid of that awful 'virgin' label. It's not that I mind the word, it's juts that it's teasing me with the unattainable.
 
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Quasi, of course your spaceship. I bet some of those librarians would love to be taken for a sexy little spin under your Clark Belt. It must get boring stamping dates on cards and going ,"Shhhh, quiet please," all day long.
 
BORING!

It's obvious you've never dated a Librarian. :rolleyes:

I did once, while my health held out. :eek:

She was much more fun than Earth People. ;)
 
Quasi,


Thanks for the tip. Next time I'm at the library I'll see if anything strikes my fancy. At least I know I'm unlikely to catch anything from someone whose other lovers are made of titanium.
 
If you enter the threads with "REJECTED MATERIAL" :eek: stencilled on your forhead, we will know that something must have struck your fancy. :( And vice versa!
 
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