Gangbangs & Such

[tr65]

This came up in the "Being Shared" thread and I wanted to expand on it a little and get the views of others.

Is having a sun "gangbanged" a service that the sub performs for the dom's pleasure, the sub's pleasure, to test the sub's limits, or for just plain humiliation of the sub?

How is the scene usually set up and how long can it go on? My sub and I have talked about it, but still have a ways to go as far as it actually happening.

What are some of you alls thoughts on this?

 

[Quint]

I think all of your questions will receive unique answers based upon the couple involved. Isn't that how it usually goes?

For me, if T ever consented to such a thing (fat chance), it would be mostly for my pleasure and humiliation (and more pleasure from that humiliation). It is not even remotely a fantasy of his and so if anything, it would be a very high reward for me.

I have no idea how it would be set up and I really don't want to "script" something as unlikely as this. If it happens, it will be a total shock and I much prefer it that way.

Hope you figure your situation out satisfactorily!

 

[catalina_francisco]

This came up in the "Being Shared" thread and I wanted to expand on it a little and get the views of others.

Is having a sun "gangbanged" a service that the sub performs for the dom's pleasure, the sub's pleasure, to test the sub's limits, or for just plain humiliation of the sub?

How is the scene usually set up and how long can it go on? My sub and I have talked about it, but still have a ways to go as far as it actually happening.

What are some of you alls thoughts on this?

I can only speak for our own views and intentions for this activity and realise others may have a variety of differences. For us, all 4 reasons you mention are part of it. Master wishes it to be humiliating for me, and knows because of my nature it will not be an easy thing to accomplish so will test my limits. This being said, my limits do not exist in that as a slave my only limits are to be Master's. Thankfully I have an experienced and loving Master who knows me well and is considerate enough to take the pushing of my previous limits slowly and through careful planning.

Master derives pleasure from the control he exercises over me in this scenario and my humiliation....I in turn derive pleasure from both my humiliation and knowing I have pleased him. In our relationship it is seen as a service I perform primarily for Master, and secondly for the men he wishes to share me with. He is in charge of everything, and is the one I am submitting to each time I am used.

Arranging it will be a process my Master goes through finding suitable candidates etc., perhaps using men he has given me to before, or maybe finding new ones, or both. His plans at this point seem to be initially for a shorter session with the aim of expanding on it over time and experience.

It is good you are talking before acting on the thought. For me, being thrown in at the deep end without talking, preparation as in being shared before, or inclusion in how it will take place to some level, would have seen me being severly damaged emotionally and psychologically. This is not how everyone would react and is reliant on the sub's personality and past life experiences. It is for this reason you need to have a good knowledge of your sub and her life before you. I know subs who would have no problem with having it sprung on them, but due to my quiet and extremely sensitive, even reclusive nature, it would be a disaster. As Master wishes to protect his property in all ways, he would not risk me this way.

Of course it goes without saying that you practice safer sex in this experience, with the realisation that it is going to be difficult to keep an eye on if and when things heat up. take care and have fun.

Catalina

 

[Etoile]

I agree that it depends on the individuals involved, and on the scene itself. I wouldn't think that it's usually for the sub's pleasure, although there's no reason it couldn't be.

 

[tr65]

Afterwards

Does the sub feel degraded and if so is it a lasting feeling? I don't want to mess my sub's head up.

 

[InnerDarkness]

Re: Afterwards

Does the sub feel degraded and if so is it a lasting feeling? I don't want to mess my sub's head up.

I for one would never be able to participate in being shared or in group scening simply because it is a limit that I have and a boundary I will not cross. Knowing this about myself, any Master/Sir/Dom that I may have in the future would also know it as well because I would communicate it to Him...as well as communicate to Him all my other issues.

If I communicated my boundaries with a person I were developing a relationship with and they did not accept them, then I would no longer pursue that relationship. I may be submissive, but I still have my limitations.

Have you communicated much about this with your sub? You mentioned talking about it...but was it in depth conversation...do they realize how serious You may be...have they been completely honest about their concerns?

 

[incubus_dark]

I wouldn't have my sub gangbanged if it were one of her limits, though if she didn't include it as a limit out of lack of imagination I'd consider it fair game but take pains to make it fairly gentle and provide good after-care. One would need to know one's sub well to asses this without directly discussing it, should it be designed for a surprise.

I would do it for my voyeuristic pleasure and her humiliation (which she would enjoy) and I would hope that she might take physical pleasure in it, but I'd expect her to endure it irrespective of this. Many subs enjoy humiliation and degradation and as such, fucking with their head in this way is what they want and hopefully they will be able to savour their pleasure in it for a long time, since such things are not easy to set up well.

If I thought she was a true humiliation slut I'd set up a moderately large and messy gangbang, but if I thought she just wanted a thrill but any deep degredation would be injurious to her, I'd set up a small four person one and make it on friendly terms.

In my experience such scenes can't really extend to the hundreds of person gangbang that they use to promote porn stars. It's just not practical. A dozen dozen guys on one female sub would be a large but controllable scene. Five or six guys, some of whom would go for a second round would be more practical.

Were it I, I'd make her take 5 or 6 guys while she was tied, then I'd untie her and make her take any that wanted a repeat performance.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I wouldn't have my sub gangbanged if it were one of her limits, though if she didn't include it as a limit out of lack of imagination I'd consider it fair game but take pains to make it fairly gentle and provide good after-care. One would need to know one's sub well to asses this without directly discussing it, should it be designed for a surprise.

I would do it for my voyeuristic pleasure and her humiliation (which she would enjoy) and I would hope that she might take physical pleasure in it, but I'd expect her to endure it irrespective of this. Many subs enjoy humiliation and degradation and as such, fucking with their head in this way is what they want and hopefully they will be able to savour their pleasure in it for a long time, since such things are not easy to set up well.

If I thought she was a true humiliation slut I'd set up a moderately large and messy gangbang, but if I thought she just wanted a thrill but any deep degredation would be injurious to her, I'd set up a small four person one and make it on friendly terms.

In my experience such scenes can't really extend to the hundreds of person gangbang that they use to promote porn stars. It's just not practical. A dozen dozen guys on one female sub would be a large but controllable scene. Five or six guys, some of whom would go for a second round would be more practical.

Were it I, I'd make her take 5 or 6 guys while she was tied, then I'd untie her and make her take any that wanted a repeat performance.

So well said. Limits are important, but then it is also necessary to push them at times, but only if 100% sure it is safe to do so, and will result in helping your sub/slave grow more so, than end up a basket case.

I think one of the most important things to know is whether she has ever had any physical or sexual assault at any point in her life. If so, it is not totally out of the realm of possibilty to participate in a gangbang, but increases the risks a hundred fold, especially if the D is unaware of how she feels now and whether she has dealt with the issuea in a way to make this possible.

For those with insight, experience, and a knowledge of their SO to the point of being able to feel their emotions and pain, it can be used as a tool to help her resolve remaining issues. I say this with caution though as it requires a lot of discussion and both D and s to know themselves inside out, know the experience will work in the way intended, and a secure relationship exists without any doubts.

Though it is not usually considered a position of power, and power is usually not the position of a sub, in this instance it can be vital to her healing to use it in a way it gives her back her feeling of control over her sexuality, which in turn strengthens her ability to submit and relinguish that power of her own free will. My thinking is in this situation it would be more advantageous to make it something you plan together, more than surprise, and if need be she feels she has to have control over some aspects, she is given this concession without hesitation from her D. Of course it is vital she know she can stop it at any point she feels she is not coping, and her D be able to give her the support she may need in whatever form, and for howevr long it takes.

Catalina