Gang bangs

[the captians wench]

So the lil subbie girl we've been playing with has admited to us that she really wants a gang bang. (and I'm just a tad bit introuble for not telling my play mate sooner )

Anyway, it really does seem like an obvious fantasy for her. She loves bondage, loves to be forced to do things (so she says but that was another thread), and she's had all kinds of rape fantasies.

Well he's decided to plan it for her, and since I'm the only one that lives alone, I'm probably most likely to end up as hostess tho that doesn't nessisarrily mean that I'm going to end up participating.

This whole thing just confuses the shit out of me. She's saying she loves the idea, because she wants to be forced to be with all these guys, but at the first sign of force with us she throws out that safe word. Makes me want to pull her by the hair and say "look lil miss princess what the fuck do you want?"

Anyway, since I've never even fantasized about this, I was wondering if any one here had any experience with it, real or fantasized. I guess I'm trying to see what the draw to it is.

 

[WriterDom]

It's a slippery slope. If you get six guys lined up for the gang bang and she uses her safe word after #2, it might turn into real rape pretty quick. And you'll go to prison as an accomplish and have your bdsm activities limited to what Shenicqa wants at the Alderson Federal Prison Camp.

 

[the captians wench]

It's a slippery slope. If you get six guys lined up for the gang bang and she uses her safe word after #2, it might turn into real rape pretty quick. And you'll go to prison as an accomplish and have your bdsm activities limited to what Shenicqa wants at the Alderson Federal Prison Camp.

deffinitly going to have to find out why she's crying wolf so much.

I think it might be because she was just expecting some kinky sex and that's just not us.

I think I'm going to have to dive more into why she wants this, or thinks she wants this....I personally never have understood it.

 

[Shankara20]

In my mind a gang bang does not automatically mean forced - real or scened. As I read your question I am seeing a forced scened set up. I'm I right? If I am I agree that it sounds like a set up for a whole bunch of problems given your history with her.

If I were you I'd slow the thing down long enough to sure you are OK with everything including the use of your living space.

 

[catalina_francisco]

As already said, gangbangs don't necessarily mean forced. In relations to what the attraction is, it depends on the person who is attracted to the idea...can be about being used repeatedly, being overpowered, being turned into a slut/whore by conventional standards, being seen to be desired by so many, service, or it can relate to much deeper psyhological reasons which might not be best to mess with.

Personally speaking, I think given what you have told us about this girl, you would both be super idiots to even contemplate doing this with her at this point in time, if ever. Such scenes need very stable people involved, people who know the rules and are willing to stick to them, and people who are capable of knowing what they are getting into, and a whole lot of trust...then there is also the difficulty of arranging such an event and safely in terms of physical, sexual, psychological and emotional health, and the law, not to mention future negative outcomes andI certainly would not be using your personal address as the venue....have you even thought about where that could lead for you long term?!! I wouldn't touch it with her with a 10 foot pole and then some.

Catalina

 

[the_pet]

CW

I don't know you, i don't know her and i don't know your Master....but i know trouble when i see it and this has negative vibes ALL OVER IT.

If your Master insists on going through with this, please protect yourself from the potential fallout.

pet

 

[sexycaz22]

I do have to agree with what Catalina and pet say.

As much as I would like to have a gang bang (its one of my fantasy) I always will be sure that it is exactly what I want, and that I do agree on limitations beforehand with a Dom or a b/f or whoever.

But in your post, you say that this person has used the safe word before and that she used it pretty early in the 'scene', I feel this has raised a few red flags and I would advise for you to not have this roleplay with this girl AND especially in your home, as it is a really stupid idea to have this roleplay in your home, as you never know what will happen, what will be the aftermath.

Please do be careful and be safe.

Caz

 

[catalina_francisco]

CW, just think about the usual safety advice we give here....what do we say about inviting strangers into your home, especially for something like this? You could have guys rolling up at your door any ole time expecting more of what was on offer, and if you think, 'oh well, I'll just call the police' I don't like your chances, especially considering you might not be given an opportunity to call anybody. Tell your play Dom to wise up and leave you out of his plans if this is his idea of safe play...I'm sure J would also have some anxieties about placing you in such a stupidly vulnerable and dangerous position.

Catalina

 

[Daddyslilpet]

Yes I agree with everyone above... I wouldn't go near this with a 100' pole. CW have you talked to J about this at all? Gotten His take on it? Please be careful!!

 

[Chicklet]

as for why she's saying she wants something and then safewording...

there are a lot of fantasies i have that i can't handle in real life. maybe all the ones she's telling you should remain just that: fantasies. her brain or her body can't handle them in real life.

if i were you i'd stick to the basics with this newbie, give her a safe introduction to bdsm without pushing any limits, and let her do her more extreme exploration in her next 'relationship'

 

[FurryFury]

CW

I don't know you, i don't know her and i don't know your Master....but i know trouble when i see it and this has negative vibes ALL OVER IT.

If your Master insists on going through with this, please protect yourself from the potential fallout.

pet

This is such good advice IMO!

Yes, I do have gang bang type scenarios in which I do consent because it is what my Dom wants and in which it is rape.

In RL? No I couldn't do that.

Perhaps under perfect circumstances I could do a group thing if it were important to the Dom with whom I'd formed a trusting and supportive relationship.

That's just the way I am though.

This girl clearly isn't sure just what she wants. That means allowing them in YOUR place is extremely unwise and unsafe legally for you. It is also, of course extremely unwise for any Dom to go forward with this under such circumstances. It places him and his friends in legal jeopardy.

I understand it's a great fantasy for many but jumping on board a potential train wreck is quite a disaster in the making. The parties involved need to have a much clearer understanding all the way around IMO.

 

[graceanne]

The point of fantasy's is that they're fantasy's. Most of us fantasize about rape, but would we like it in real life? No.

 

[SunshineLdy]

I agree with the advice to tread carefully. What I would try is bringing in more toys and "filling" her to where she can't take anymore. I used to say "Bring on the Marines". Meaning I wanted more, to be pushed to the limits of what I could take, to make it sore and full, to feel it for days afterward and smile. I'd think, she wants to be used up more. Least that's what I was craving, thinking it'd take more men to get me there. Not knowing my current SO at the time Being made to cry out "No More!" is a kick I've happily reached now, so no more "Marines" and god forbid he gets a Viagra!!!!

 

[Life_Noir]

So the lil subbie girl we've been playing with has admited to us that she really wants a gang bang. (and I'm just a tad bit introuble for not telling my play mate sooner )

Anyway, it really does seem like an obvious fantasy for her. She loves bondage, loves to be forced to do things (so she says but that was another thread), and she's had all kinds of rape fantasies.

Well he's decided to plan it for her, and since I'm the only one that lives alone, I'm probably most likely to end up as hostess tho that doesn't nessisarrily mean that I'm going to end up participating.

This whole thing just confuses the shit out of me. She's saying she loves the idea, because she wants to be forced to be with all these guys, but at the first sign of force with us she throws out that safe word. Makes me want to pull her by the hair and say "look lil miss princess what the fuck do you want?"

Anyway, since I've never even fantasized about this, I was wondering if any one here had any experience with it, real or fantasized. I guess I'm trying to see what the draw to it is.

Yah know darlin... I think that this one {this sub} might be better appreciated through someone elses stories...
As in... You might just want to cut your losses on this girl... Before you all get to make the aquaintance of the local constabulary... I mean.. There are easier ways to get cuffs and a cavity search...Hell Just ask around here.

 

[Elengil]

Ever considered talking with the local law enforcement about this (since so many people say "red flag")

Just my 2 cents, since yes this is private, but better to be talking to them now, than later on in cuffs...

 

[neonflux]

Oh Captain's Wench! I am with everyone else on this one - the woman is TROUBLE! This scenario - with her - is TROUBLE! And yes, I can see her changing her mind and both of you ending up in prison (even if she is, ultimately, unable to win her case)... Gang bangs can be set up so as to be safe, fun, etc... Especially if your Master screens well and meets the participants before hand. But with THIS woman??? She repeatedly uses her safe word at the least provocation with the two of you!!! Perhaps I'm wroing, but I say approach with more than caution... Neon

 

[Betticus]

ditto

 

[midwestyankee]

Yes, the subbie in question is flitting around in a delusional cloud at the moment and that's a problem unto itself, but that's not my biggest concern here. I'd be seriously questioning the sanity of the fellow who decided that it made sense to arrange this special party for her. Really. Did he get a brain transplant recently and get the jello version because he was short a few bucks at the time?

CW, I'd look him in the eye and ask if he's lost it. Because anyone who doesn't think things through well enough to conclude that such a scene would be a good idea simply isn't working with enough mental horsepower. And while it may be the case that you are the only one in your group who has suitable facilities, this does not obligate you to participate in abject foolishness.

Really, CW, I'd start with your play partner. To root out a problem you have to dig to the place where it originates. And the problem is not that the new subbie has fantasies but that your play partner thinks it makes sense to help her live them out.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

I don't know this submissive and I'm only getting your take on the situation.

Given the same circumstances I know what MY reaction would be.

"Curb. NOW. Come back when you pull your head out of your ass."

Not nice, but that's my mood right now.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Ever considered talking with the local law enforcement about this (since so many people say "red flag")

Just my 2 cents, since yes this is private, but better to be talking to them now, than later on in cuffs...

Hmm, not sure I would be doing that....they would likely see you as someone suspicious (how do they know you are telling the truth even before the fact?), write you off as trouble, and tell you they have real crime to fight without worrying about babysitting people who want to spice up their sex lives.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

Tell your play Dom to wise up and leave you out of his plans if this is his idea of safe play...I'm sure J would also have some anxieties about placing you in such a stupidly vulnerable and dangerous position.

Catalina

CW, I know I said this way back near the beginning of the thread, and I still stand by it....I seriously question the experience and intelligence of your play Dom. Isn't he the one who saw you with your collar on in the shop and approached you on the pretence of helping you find some local groups etc.? If he is and my memory hasn't been playing tricks on me, seems perhaps he is an opportunist who is more into providing entertainment for himself without considering the safety and welfare of those involved, not to mention he isn't upfront about what he wants if he uses an excuse of friendship to get to you. Think careful about how much you can trust him and his decisions and methods please.

Catalina

 

[the captians wench]

Okay, I really apreciate every one here and what they say you all know that. And I do know that I need to really talk to him about this, and my own aprihentions, but nothing has been set yet.

Nothing has been planed at all, and infact, she is on a probation with us anyway. She worries me for a lot of reasons, and I don't like the idea of doing this with her, even if the guys he's thinking of are close friends of his.

And cat you're right, it is the same guy, but your memory isn't exactly correct. He did ask me if I was in any local groups, and mentioned one that I recognized as closer to me than the sort of club I was going to. He never said he would introduce me to the group, I just asumed he would since he mentioned it, and it's a group that isn't exactly closed, but one that's hard to get information on. They haven't updated their website in about a year and a half I think it is.

And I haven't talked to Jounar about it yet, mainly because I don't think it's really going to happen. This guy is not the kind to take this game of her's, either she'll snap to in the next session or two or she'll be gone. I'm partically trying to get my head around the fantasy, and partically trying to understand fantasizing about something you wouldn't want to try. But that has a lot to do with the fact that I have really just been exploring my sexuality in the past 3 years. Before that I never fantasized, and rarely masterbated, unless it was to turn on my ex.

I do have a friend, with two slaves of his own, who works with the local law enforcement. He's gone thru the school and all that, but hasn't been accepted onto the force yet, so he's going into mp. I think I'll ask him what he thinks of the situation, and what leagel precautions need to take place before hand to protect all of those involved, just incase this girl cries wolf again.

 

[xxCrystal4314xx]

I don't have any advice, just wanted to wish you good luck with whatever happens

 

[catalina_francisco]

I'm happy you are going to check things out further, but still wouldn't be part of it under any circumstances if I were you. I imagine, as in all things rape related, if she decided to opt out at any point and that was not honoured by someone, or even if she didn't but later claimed it was rape, you would have a hard time proving otherwise, and do you need the trouble anyway? It would be her word against others and even if she signed a piece of paper, she could claim she was forced, threatened etc., to do so. As to J, I think he is the first person you should be talking to about it. Even if this guy plans to use friends of his, he cannot control what they might or might not do if things went wrong, nor can he really predict their behaviour 100%. I really hope you give it a huge miss.

Catalina

 

[the captians wench]

I'm happy you are going to check things out further, but still wouldn't be part of it under any circumstances if I were you. I imagine, as in all things rape related, if she decided to opt out at any point and that was not honoured by someone, or even if she didn't but later claimed it was rape, you would have a hard time proving otherwise, and do you need the trouble anyway? It would be her word against others and even if she signed a piece of paper, she could claim she was forced, threatened etc., to do so. As to J, I think he is the first person you should be talking to about it. Even if this guy plans to use friends of his, he cannot control what they might or might not do if things went wrong, nor can he really predict their behaviour 100%. I really hope you give it a huge miss.

Catalina

You're right, I should be talking to him about it, but I haven't been able to talk to him in a while, and not since this idea came about anyway. I usually talk to him about everything first, and I miss that, but it's been almost a week since I've gotten to talk to him period. I really hate that this happens some times and either I'm all wraped up in something here or he there and we miss each other. *sigh* I guess that's why I've been talking a lot about this stuff here, and with my mom even, he's always been my confidant, and right now he's not here.