Game of thrones

Tanacious

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could someone pls write a game of thrones fan fiction that is even saucier then the real books? or if this has already happened could someone link me to it?
 
Can it really be a competitor since everything is free on literotica.
 
Lit still has advertisments and a gift shop and Video on Demand all of which would suffer if it lost traffic so yes. I generally find the rule of no links to be a bit absurd mostly because Lit seems to be pretty much the only force in the web for erotic literature (In the same way that Jello is the only gelatin product, Kool Ade is the only powder drink and Windows is the only OS.) that getting some traffic to other sites might very well just make them into a better site.

Still we all know the rules and even if we didn't ignorance of the rules is no excuse.
 
Lit still has advertisments and a gift shop and Video on Demand all of which would suffer if it lost traffic so yes. I generally find the rule of no links to be a bit absurd mostly because Lit seems to be pretty much the only force in the web for erotic literature (In the same way that Jello is the only gelatin product, Kool Ade is the only powder drink and Windows is the only OS.) that getting some traffic to other sites might very well just make them into a better site.

Still we all know the rules and even if we didn't ignorance of the rules is no excuse.

Very well said. :)



(While it's my opinion that Lit is the best story site out there...) there are other story sites on the Net. If people really want them, they can run a search. That's how I found Lit in '99. I punched in "free erotic story sites". ;) They were #1 in the list.
 
Very well said. :)



(While it's my opinion that Lit is the best story site out there...) there are other story sites on the Net. If people really want them, they can run a search. That's how I found Lit in '99. I punched in "free erotic story sites". ;) They were #1 in the list.

I honestly don't remember how I found lit. It was probably around the same time as you found it though. Lit is unmatched for story sites. The only reason you would ever go anywhere else is to get around the Lit Rules. Which I admit I do on occasion and I have guided others to do as well on the occasion that I noticed them before a mod did. (And when it wasn't easier to explain how to skirt the rules). I'll be the first to admit that miss the Lit Extreme section (and it vanished when I went to Boot Camp so it was doubly frustrating because it was just one more thing that changed on 9/11 (or at least before 12/15 when I got back home that year). The stories were below sub-par. I sometimes thought it was there so Lit could have a place to dump all the stories that didn't meet standards but it was still fun for me. And they used to have a very good create a story section that I wish I knew why they eliminated cus there is a reason nobody uses the Chyoo crap. . .cus it's crap.

Like I said, it's not that there aren't other places to write. There are (and it's easy enough to make your own website and attach a forum anyway.) but none that I've found a book of when I was browsing a local store. I think it was Virgin Records back when they still had stores but I've SEEN the Lit book and I had one until a friend borrowed/stole it.

Since you're a mod you wouldn't be happen to know the ACTUAL rules for story submissions vs what they post. It seems that (I mostly mean when dealing with celebrity stories though occasionally this spills over) that the age rule is more a matter of hoping the censor likes you than anything else.
 
I'll be the first to admit that miss the Lit Extreme section (and it vanished when I went to Boot Camp so it was doubly frustrating because it was just one more thing that changed on 9/11 (or at least before 12/15 when I got back home that year). The stories were below sub-par.

allextremesex.com/stories (yes, I can post the link/name because that's the name to Lit's "Extreme Link" that used to be on the main story page) definitely had horribly written stories, but looser rules save for the 18+ thing. It's still there, but it seems someone bought the rights to it. Every story listed there is by an S.Sarge now and it seems every "Lit author story" is gone. These are still equally horrible and they do not fit in the categories listed. (Non Consent, Non Human, etc.) Lit pulled the plug in 2002 and I think they did so, mostly, due to "peer pressure" (which means the GB asshats who only want to insult others based on race, religion, or politics - Laurel has seemed to bend to a handful of them since the site opened) here. They claimed it had to do with the big police sting happening in the Yahoo E-Groups community when they were shutting down kiddie-porn rings. What kiddie porn had to do with rape of legal adults or animal humping, I'll never know.


Like I said, it's not that there aren't other places to write. There are (and it's easy enough to make your own website and attach a forum anyway.) but none that I've found a book of when I was browsing a local store. I think it was Virgin Records back when they still had stores but I've SEEN the Lit book and I had one until a friend borrowed/stole it.

It's also for sale here on Literotica. :) There's been talk of a second book, though I've never heard anything more about it.

Since you're a mod you wouldn't be happen to know the ACTUAL rules for story submissions vs what they post. It seems that (I mostly mean when dealing with celebrity stories though occasionally this spills over) that the age rule is more a matter of hoping the censor likes you than anything else.

I'm really not that sure. There's been rumors that "only Laurel and Manu check stories before acceptance/denial" but that seems hard to believe with as many submissions as they receive. Hell, the holiday contests alone have tons of stories flooding in quickly and in a short period of time! Surely they have some type of staff to help. I would think, sometimes, skirting around the rules may just be a "lottery" of which proof-reader you receive and/or if you're prolific and "liked" here by the vast majority. (Like some of the old dawgs in AH and even Editor's Forum.)

In fact, I've been toying with the idea of writing a Non Consent/Reluctance story, but I don't want to put the time and effort into it just to have it denied because "the victim didn't like it in the end" or whatever that horse shit baby rule is. *sigh*
 
Oh, thank you. I didn't know that the site was still running. I know that its said that nothing ever really leaves the internet. Once it's here it's always here somewhere you just have to know how to get back in. And yeah stories were horribly written, comparing it to the GB is not a poor comparison all things said. I didn't even know the 18 plus rule was in effect over at Extreme. I heard the same excuse about it having something to do with various stings and them just not wanting the hassle but I didn't hear it until around 2005 and you're by far the most reliable source I've heard it from. Every other time it was rumors and rumors of rumors so I just kinda chalked it up there with all the other rules that Lit has. I don't have to agree with them, I just have to obey them. If I want a site where anything goes I'm perfectly capable of going out, learning to code, spending years building a loyal audience and. . .holy shit I suddenly understand why Hollywood keeps spitting out the same movie. Trying to build your own audience doesn't even sound plausible in your head much less outloud. (I've actually joked about it in a story or two where I've wanted to do something and skipped it because I'd rather be here on the grandest stage of them all playing by the rules than doing what I want on a goddamn soap box.

Yeah, I know the book is available from Lit, but there are self publishers in the world and with E-books around that's quickly becoming less and less impressive. I remember feeling a hint of pride when I saw the Lit book in an actual store. Granted that was years ago before E-books were a thing at all and self publishing was still the equivalent (I guess it might still be, I don't quite know how E-Books work) of selling CDs out of your trunk. It was nice. I hope they do put together a second book. It feels like the rumor of that has been going around for about as long as Ghostbusters 3 though.

I know it's not just Laurel and Manu, though I suspect it may very well be some kind of Bot. I know I've had a story get rejected and then I resubmitted it under a different name with only a few minor changes and it got through. And like you said the holidays not only have floods of stories but they fast track those to the site so people can participate. No way in hell are two people managing that alone unless they are such epic speed readers that it boggles the mind.

It depends. I've found over the years on Lit that some rules can be bent, others broken. Though to be fair even the Lit rules occasionally explain the loophole. I can understand not wanting people to write bestiality stories. What I don't get is why a horse with wings is sufficiently different from a horse to get around that rule and they specifically mention that Unicorns are okay so it's not like the exception was put in place so that orcs, elves and angels would still be in bounds. Yeah that rule annoys me, not because I agree or disagree but because I find it arbitrary.

You already answered my question and apparently you don't know. The rule that always gets me curious and I keep wanting to know who to summon from upon high is how and to some extent why the under age rule functions the way that it does specifically in regards to fictional celebrities. I get they need to be 18 and no fair aging them up. I don't really understand why the age of the actor is important but I've heard stories that a character was nineteen or twenty on the show, but the actress was still seventeen when the show was cancelled and thus she's forever out of bounds because she'll never get any older and. . .yeah. Or how old are Spiderman and the X-men? They seem to get reset to fifteen every ten years or so but all of them have gotten old enough at least once or twice to make it to college and marriage.

I'm a little less shy about wasting my time to get rejected for what feels like arbitrary reasons because I will wander to one of those other sites and dump a story or two but still it's nice to know if Kim Possible is in bounds or out of bounds. She's a High School Graduate as of her finale and a senior the entire last season and Lit "tradition" if not Lit rules state that High School seniors are eighteen unless specifically listed otherwise. Which is why football teams and cheerleaders can fuck like bunnies when the bus predictably breaks down at the side of the road. They are all eighteen even if (at least when I was in school just over a decade ago) I was one of the oldest in my class turning 18 halfway through the year and most of my peers weren't 18 June (a few weeks after graduation) so math is not really part of the logic here. I don't mind so much as I like consistency.

Still thanks, and if you happen to find one of those people from the Hill who can explain this to me in little bitty words anybody can understand please steer me in there direction.
 
The age thing is confusing because it more or less has to be. It's also not the actual age of the character that matters. It is more along the lines of the age they act and look. There is one simple reason for it. Pedophiles are hated world over and FBI scans for anything even remotely close to that. That is why a child can never be anywhere near a sex scene, no children ask about sex and certain fictional people will never be posted on here.

Kim Possible may or may not be posted here though I doubt it. It was a show for kids so even if she grew old during the show and stayed there she won't get posted. I have seen the show a time or two in bits and pieces, I remember there being a grandma and do see her parents, they won't get posted either. As i said it's in how they act and a show designed for kids will set off the scan. This being an erotic story site means FBI shuts it down and if it ever reopens the rules will be a lot stricter. :eek::rolleyes:

Oh yeah and Sean you are still wrong, so there. :p
 
The age thing is confusing because it more or less has to be. It's also not the actual age of the character that matters. It is more along the lines of the age they act and look. There is one simple reason for it. Pedophiles are hated world over and FBI scans for anything even remotely close to that. That is why a child can never be anywhere near a sex scene, no children ask about sex and certain fictional people will never be posted on here.

Kim Possible may or may not be posted here though I doubt it. It was a show for kids so even if she grew old during the show and stayed there she won't get posted. I have seen the show a time or two in bits and pieces, I remember there being a grandma and do see her parents, they won't get posted either. As i said it's in how they act and a show designed for kids will set off the scan. This being an erotic story site means FBI shuts it down and if it ever reopens the rules will be a lot stricter. :eek::rolleyes:

Oh yeah and Sean you are still wrong, so there. :p

Except this is provably false. Power Rangers is a children's show and I have 10 Power Rangers stories (and there are more than that floating around). I suppose you could argue that the Simpsons isn't a children's cartoon and that's the justification for Marge Simpson being in bounds but the Flintstones is and Wilma and Betty are clearly in bounds. Sailor Moon is in bounds as well. So is Pokemon! So clearly it's not about the target audience. So based on evidence there is no reason to believe Kim Possible's parents shouldn't be in bounds.

Considering the other sites I've seen that don't seem to get shut down I'm skeptical that the FBI goes around shutting down sites, pedophilia or no. Now they might just be playing it safe or it might just be one of their quirks. I suspect the truth lies somewhere between the two.

It might have to do with how the characters look though that is every bit as confusing.
 
FBI does shut sites down, they just take a while at it. For whatever reason FBI takes their time on getting a criminal case put before a judge. As in if the FBI says you broke a law chances are pretty darn good you are then spending plenty of time in prison.

I don't blame them playing it safe the laws are broad and general so most anything can be seen as child porn really. Kim Possible's parents may be in bounds, Kim Possible may be allowed even, but as far as I know she still looked like a young kid when they stopped the show. That is the telling factor in this, does it look like child porn, can it be seen as child porn, if yes then bam that is illegal.

Flintstones are not a good example for this, the show was designed to be watchable for adults and kids. Unless you use Pebbles and Bam Bam there's nothing stopping someone from using them. They are semi safe since there was a series done with them as teenagers. Buffy is a good example, she was a senior in high school for the last year or two and there are stories posted that are older.
 
If looking like a kid was illegal Teen porn wouldn't exist. We (guys) can tell all the lies we want, we know good and damn well what we're thinking when a girl identifies as a teen, skips around, eats lollipops and has a Teddy Bear backpack. And only two of the seven teens are legal.

Buffy is an awkward example. She turns 18 in season 3 of 7 but if you know the characters and the plot it's damn obvious that 90% of the stories are about pre-legal Buffy. Worse she never looked like a Teen, perhaps because Gellar (like most Tv High School Students) was in her mid twenties when the show started.

And yes, there is a Flintstones show of Pebbles and Bam Bam as Teens (though the exact age is never disclosed). The Little Mermaid II has Ariel with a daughter who's at least six (I assume she's twelve based on her look and attitude but the Little Mermaid takes place on Ariel's 16th Birthday. She has a daughter that's 9 of 24 months. I'll admit I don't know much about babies but I'm pretty sure when they are shoulder high they are at least 15 months old) Which makes Ariel in bounds. . .if sequels count. . .do sequels count? What about video game characters who increasingly are born in 19XX (which I assume in about ten years will become 20XX) so Chun Li can stay. . .well she'd be in her late forties now if she hadn't gotten her birthday retconned from the early seventies to whenever the hell XX is sometime in the early 2000's. How the fuck does that work?

I mostly ask because as much as I enjoy squirming around rules I like it because it's fun. Not because I'm just testing.

PS: Knowing what I know about the actual porn industry, I'm very skeptical that the FBI does much shutting sites down and even less of people doing time. Considering how long it took them to get Max Hardcore (and they snagged him on a serious technicality that he couldn't have controlled) they clearly aren't trying but so hard.
 
Like I said it's a grey area, though the teen porn almost all of them have breasts so it's one of those disgusting but not obviously child porn things. Besides there is the disclaimer at the beginning about how everybody is at least 18 and documented.

As for the FBI not doing it that often, they don't simply because the internet covers the world and not all of the sicko's are in the US. Heck most are not simply because the laws are even broader if there is one in different countries.

Russia is pretty popular as the host country for most of the pervy porn, beastiality and incest spring to mind fast. Japan the legal age of consent is 13, though oddly enough their porn the women are in their 20's at least. Have to read the laws but maybe age of consent to do porn is older. :confused:
 
It's not a gray area, it's stupid Christian American morals doing their best to work against nature and us suffering the inevitable results.

That said last I checked the Supreme Court upheld written kiddie porn anyhow making the rest of the conversation rather beside the point.

As for where the grey does exist as far as Lit goes, like I said. It just annoys me.

Anyway I don't actually know much of anything about Game of Thrones. I keep meaning to one day start the books but I have so many other books that should come first and I'm already reading one story that may never be completed because the author apparently doesn't love us enough even though we keep giving him money. I want to get a kickstarter that says "If we raise 20 million dollars you will finish the goddamn story in the next five years. If five years comes and we aren't satisfied that you are at least making quality progress the money will instead be sent to the guy Obama uses to drone people
 
Just to throw my .02 into the ring, I recently submitted an incest tale where I omitted the age of anyone within the tale, but in the "notes" for Lit I said it was a tale between a father and 21 to 18 year old daughters. They rejected it. The reason was "Is there under aged sex in this story?" I resubmitted, adding a second line to the "notes" saying There is NO under aged sex at all. Lit accepted the story, but THEY added those two lines in italics at the top of my submission. That tells me that a human is *reading* the stories prior to submission, at least. I don't think some type of bot could/would add those lines into my story...
 
^^^^ I've had similar experiences. Though instead of doing what you did and changing the note I simply deleted it all together and it got through.

I suspect it's a combination of bots and people. Like the bots probably have some terms that flag the story and if it gets flagged it goes to a human. Either that or they have a LOT of people that they bring on for the story contests.
 
Bad sean putting us back on topic, good dark for taking us off again. ;)

So on topic, Game of Thrones isn't the novels. At least I don't think so, never read the novels. Have watched a little of Game of Thrones, the show is a political story with a little T&A tossed in with a little fighting. I only watched the first episode fully.

Don't look at me like that I don't care for political stories because they never show, just tell and that is rather boring. Anyway from what I gathered the show is more or less political intrigue upon intrigue with a little war tossed in besides the T&A.

The novels seemed to be the same thing though I have not read them so they may be a little more focused. Also could be broader so you are seeing all of the intrigue across the nation.

Hey look sean is wrong again, amazing how often that happens. :p Stupid Christian morals are why the laws are broad. They at least managed to get separate church and state enough to do the laws in the first place to allow for porn. Child porn laws are not stupid, nobody should want to have sex with or look at a nude ten year old. :eek:

Little secret, men like the teen girls in pigtails sucking on lollipops then giving a blowjob before sex. Fantasy there, take an innocent gal and teach her sex exactly how he wants. Also goes along with having a virgin, guys prize virgins in their bed. Why men are told to fuck any gal that doesn't say no, awake is optional, women are told to not before marriage. Yes fucked up but this goes with the views on sex by men. :rolleyes:
 
From what I can gather from my friends, two of which are/have read the Game of Thrones and watch the show the show and the books follow most of the same highlights but they had to cut various things either for time or for budget reasons but the same general story. Kinda like The Walking Dead where for all it's changes you can still make very educated guesses about who's about to show up next because such and such is supposed to happen and it's too big a part of the story to simply write off.

I suppose you make a halfway decent point that perhaps a separation of Church and state has aided us somewhat. (Though looking at other countries around the world they don't seem to have a lot of our problems. If we follow "common sense" America's ban on sex in entertainment and high age of consent should lead to lower teen pregnancy and lower abortion rates but we have the opposite in reality. I suspect that keeping children blind to reality and then wondering why they make poor decisions that we failed to educate them on has the exact effects you'd expect.

By the way on behalf of my Gender. . .You know what what. Screw them. You're not wrong, I'm just the freak. It's one of the things that makes me think Islam has it wrong. 72 Virgins? What the fuck is up with that? One or two might be fun for novelty purposes or if you really enjoy that look in the girl's eyes when she not just "saying" it's big and stretching her. Otherwise unless there are STDs in heaven I want 72 of the nastiest whores to ever walk the earth!

You know I can't recall the last time I highjacked a thread this badly without actively meaning ot be a prick. I won't say I haven't done it because I have but usally it's because the author made my shit list.

As for Kiddie porn we're wandering a bit. There is a VAST difference between a 9/10 year old (or any prepubescent) as there is your average teen. As a general rule of thumb there is nothing wrong with me if the only way I could tell is by carding you. Which leads to an interesting question of while I don't agree with his taste in women should I get rid of and friends who date women with small breasts and no hips? She's 27 but if I didn't know I'd swear she was no older than 15! :eek: It would suck for those women if we applied the logic that only sickos would ever find them attractive.
 
This is a crock. They may have ditched 'allextreme' but the site is polluted with rape stories.

Between having a section entitled "non consent" and Laurel doing very little to enforce the "victim must enjoy the sex" rule its a joke to pretend they are not here.

And damn straight the feds are all over this and every other site. They look for the readers and people who leave "bitch deserved it" comments more than the authors and the site. Kiddie pron draws pedos, but rape porn draws rapists.

For the record? The LW section contains more violence against women than the non con section.

And damn straight Laurel caves to the GB. Her prime focus here is frolicking amongst them. People can;t get answers on site issues, but she posts there all day long.
 
I'll be the first to admit that miss the Lit Extreme section

That's because you're a woman hater and big supporter of violence to women in stories. You probably stroke to rape porn all night long.

You should head on over to asstr with the rest of the filth. You can even find under age rape stories there.
 
The woman must like it isn't actually a rule contrary to public belief. It's one of the many myths of Lit.

I've spent time on Asstr thank you for the advice Lovecraft. :D Generally speaking their quality control is crap though, it's like a fan fic site where you have to read through a metric fuck ton of crap to get to decent stories. Say what you like about Lit not always having perfect stories but there is a bare minimum to get into the site.
 
Honestly I'm not sure if lovecraft was talking about himself or sean. :eek:

You are both perverts. :p

No she mustn't love it, just makes it easier to get posted. My one non consent story she enjoys, reaches orgasm and ends up following her master around. I wrote it for someone else, no idea who. :eek:

The actual rule is a little vague but basically you can do most any sort of a rape you want. The problem is if you do an actual beat the shit out of her rape it can't be the focus of the story. I have one with that in it, posted in romance, don't ask it was the only spot it fit in. I think the basic rule of thumb is she can't die during the sex, and if she does not enjoy it has to more or less only be held down for the sex.

So not complaining, I don't want to read violent rape stories. I didn't much like writing it in to my one story with it. Course most of the non consent stories on the site are written by men, and men for the most part believe that after sinking inside of any woman she is instantly in love with him and will call him master or something. :rolleyes:
 
Wait, women fall in love once we're inside?! I got that whole cause and effect thing completely flipped. :eek:

The rule is really vague and does what it wants when it wants. The girl need not survive and you can certainly strongly imply she didn't or won't make it.

Yeah I think the majority of the non-con writers are guys but I can speak from experience that the readers (or at least the commenters) are slightly more likely to be female and they are usually the ones who want the stories a little darker so make of that what you will.

And Lovecraft was talking about poor little me. Long story short I'm supposed to trust my feelings over medical professionals and if I prefer to let experts do their work without the pressure of the populace it means that I'm lower than a snakes belly or some such shit. Oh well.
 
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