Fucking France

[Topher]

Fucking France with their half-tricouleur/half-star-spangled-banner flags. Made me cry.

Putains de Français avec leurs drapeaux moitié tricouleur, moitié bannière étoilée. Ils m'ont fait pleurer.

Merci la France!

edited-
found nick for our flag

 

[Natalie Nessus]

Pourquoi?

 

[MunchinMark]

Er, is Topher's post positive or negative?

Le poteau de Topher est-il positif ou négatif?

I don't recall if the French use 'er' or something else.

 

[Natalie Nessus]

No, I do not understand?

 

[MunchinMark]

Well, it's either,"Thankyou France for this wonderfully touching display of solidarity with the United States. But I will put in 'fucking' to attract views"
or "bastards! why have you stolen a symbol of our nation?"

My French grammar isn't good enough to tranlate that and make it understandable.

 

[Natalie Nessus]

Well, it's either,"Thankyou France for this wonderfully touching display of solidarity with the United States. But I will put in 'fucking' to attract views"
or "bastards! why have you stolen a symbol of our nation?"

But yes, that is similar but I do not know for why?

 

[MunchinMark]

Guess we'll both have to wait untill Topher comes back and tells us.

 

[Natalie Nessus]

I will not wait I do not understand and I do not understand their title it is wRONG.Where is France?



and I do not fully understand their French

 

[MunchinMark]

It has gotten a reaction from the only French person I know of on the board. Perhaps that's what it was meant to do.

And according to the title France is off somewhere fucking. Which is a good way to spend Saturday morning in my opinion.

 

[MunchinMark]

I seem to have caught smiley sickness. Good grief!

I promised my mother I never should.

 

[Natalie Nessus]

It has gotten a reaction from the only French person I know of on the board. Perhaps that's what it was meant to do.

And according to the title France is off somewhere fucking. Which is a good way to spend Saturday morning in my opinion.

Hah! But it is poor fucking French, yes?

I do not known them, it is a football thing, perhaps?
I do not know

 

[MunchinMark]

Mon Français n'est pas bon je sait. Peut-être le Français de Topher n'est pas bon non plus?


<-----Smart Arse

 

[Natalie Nessus]

but yes?

 

[MunchinMark]

Is that 'yes my French is poor' or 'yes I am a smart arse'? lol

 

[Natalie Nessus]

both perhaps, yes?

I hate to see this title on the threads, I am silly but i do

 

[Demian]

Fucking France with their half-tricouleur/half-star-spangled-banner flags. Made me cry.

Putains de Français avec leurs drapeaux moitié tricouleur, moitié bannière étoilée. Ils m'ont fait pleurer.

Merci la France!

edited-
found nick for our flag

Wow
Wut an English grapple

I think Mr. T will win
in the End

 

[MunchinMark]

Bugger.

I was trying to bury this.

 

[Cheyenne]

What was so hard to understand? I thought it was clear that Topher was trying to say "thank you" to the French athletes for the show of support.

The flags with the French flag on one side and the U.S. flag on the other were cool. I'm sure they were meant as a sign of respect by the French athletes and were taken as such by Topher and the rest of us.

The French are a very giving people. After all, they also gave us my favorite Statue of Liberty!
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[Hamletmaschine]

What was so hard to understand? I thought it was clear that Topher was trying to say "thank you" to the French athletes for the show of support.

((snip))

The French are a very giving people.

((snip))


That's how I read it, too.

Fucking France, man--those fuckers are so fucking cool to do that, you know?

Being a Francophile, man, I love those fuckers!

~H~

 

[MunchinMark]

I think it was the 'Fucking France' bit that confused Nessus. The nature of the board means that ambiguity can cause problems across language barriers. No doubt she will tell you herself when she comes this way again.

 

[Topher]

Je suis désolé, Nessus, que je ne parlais pas comme il faut. Ca fait longtemps que je ne parle pas français. Je tentais d'exprimer que je me suis senti heureux de voir la solidarité évidente entre ces athlètes français et nous. Je pense que je me suis trompé en essayant d'employer le mot "putain". Vous, vous êtes française, Nessus? Je crois que oui parce que les québécois, ils critiquent à peine lorsqu'on essaie de parler leur langue. Ben, je ne sait pas dire moitié-moitié, mais c'est une phrase que j'ai entendue où j'habitais en Suisse (la ville de Fribourg) lorsqu'on parlait de la fondue (½ emmenthaler, ½ gruyère). C'est l'histoire d'un travers - d'avoir essayé d'exprimer l'idiome américain à travers de la langue française.
The "fucking france" title came from a friend of mine speaking in my head when I witnessed the event. When I met him he was a Serb refugee from Croatia in Switzerland. He now lives in the US He would say stuff like that when he was touched. It's almost like: "Right at first I am angry that you touched me so profoundly that it actually hurt". I guess, at least subconsciously, I knew the title would appear offensive at first blush. I certainly hoped that any French that read my post would immediately see that I didn't mean it in a bad way. Americans, I knew, and as was evident from the reactions, would understand right off.
Yes, I always over-analyze like this. I can think of someone else on Lit who does as well. Anyone want to take a guess?

 

[Topher]

Arrrgh!! And I typed it so slowly too! And previewed it! I've seen people who speak french "comme langue maternelle" make this error too, though:

"je ne sait pas" should be "je ne sais pas"

or "zhshay pah" if you write the way they really speak

 

[Guest]

And to think I thought this thread was going to be about an orgy........

 

[Natalie Nessus]

Merci

It is about sport! I understand

 

[scrymettet]

"fucking france"

J'avais compris à la première lecture. Merci