Fuck Truisms thread

[twelveoone]

There is a world out there...
Regarding Abstraction:
Here's the goods:
I’ve been thinking lately about the necessity of abstraction in poetry because of the fragmentary lyric "For Hans Carossa" by Rainer Maria Rilke. Translated by Stephen Mitchell, it begins: "Losing too is still ours; and even forgetting / still has a shape in the kingdom of transformation." From the first word onwards, we’re given a slew of abstractions, the amorphous act of "forgetting" given a shape, not geometric or even graspable, but inhabiting the airy "kingdom of forgetting." The lyric continues, "When something’s let go of, it circles; and though we are rarely the center / of the circle, it draws around us its unbroken, marvelous curve."
From In Praise of Abstraction: Moving Beyond Concrete Imagery
by Ravi Shankar
Remember I took this out of context, you should read the whole thing, pros and cons

 

[twelveoone]

Robinson Jeffers, & The Metric Fallacy

Robinson Jeffers, & The Metric Fallacy
Copyright Ó by Dan Schneider, 4/7/01

What if someone actually said to you that all music was composed of just 2 notes? Or if someone claimed that there were just 2 colors in creation? Now, ponder if such a thing were true. Imagine the clunkiness & mechanicality of such music....

Great essay
Nothing ever is that easy, even poetry

 

[bflagsst]

In Bassa the world only has two colors, hui and ziza. English speakers have a hard enough time recognizing the difference between blue and indigo. Imagine trying to describe the blue ball from the indigo ball to a Bassa tribesman.

Abstraction certainly finds its home in poetry. Technical writing is certainly abstract, a journal maybe more because it deals with thought description, a novel which is mostly a creation has high abstraction, but none even come close to the level of abstraction in poetry. Poetry attempts to express the inexpressible, in its highest form(not any specific poetic form though, errrrrr maybe triolet)

 

[twelveoone]

In Bassa the world only has two colors, hui and ziza. English speakers have a hard enough time recognizing the difference between blue and indigo. Imagine trying to describe the blue ball from the indigo ball to a Bassa tribesman.

Abstraction certainly finds its home in poetry. Technical writing is certainly abstract, a journal maybe more because it deals with thought description, a novel which is mostly a creation has high abstraction, but none even come close to the level of abstraction in poetry. Poetry attempts to express the inexpressible, in its highest form(not any specific poetic form though, errrrrr maybe triolet)

Oh, come on bflagsst, nobody's ever seen an indigo ball, so that would be "ballnotthere"

 

[twelveoone]

Ersatz World

Joseph S. Salemi is a neo-formalist. I love this guy. I'm free verse. He would probably retch if he saw my stuff. I'm an enigma.

Ersatz World